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yeah I'll just echo what most have been saying last page, clearly a difference between golden state and the recent miami, but lebron did kind of set the precedent (well maybe boston too), miami was more comparable to what the cavs are now and look how they just fared against golden state, can't imagine we've ever seen anything like this golden state group



[Edited on June 13, 2017 at 4:24 PM. Reason : k]

6/13/2017 4:22:29 PM

afripino
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You wanna talk about chasing rings? Robert Parish

6/13/2017 4:44:13 PM

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"miami was more comparable to what the cavs are now and look how they just fared against golden state, can't imagine we've ever seen anything like this golden state group"


That Miami team was the epitome of a super team and ring chasing. None of that bothers me as the whole goddamn point is trying to win. But there are people on here who think Durant is a punk for going to the Warriors when LeBron did the exact same thing, twice.

6/13/2017 4:50:46 PM

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Lebron didn't go to a 73-win team that just won a title the year before. It's not "the exact same thing."

6/13/2017 5:15:22 PM

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"None of that bothers me as the whole goddamn point is trying to win."


yeah this really can't be overstated.

we can quibble over how similar the situations are, but why does it even matter? the point is to win.

[Edited on June 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM. Reason : l]

6/13/2017 5:19:08 PM

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6/13/2017 7:52:45 PM

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Lebron is just unreal.


Lol at creating a super team. Miami was a super team for a whopping three years and they had zero depth and extremely limited role players. Nothing like golden state at all.

And cleveland is far from a super team. No chance they even make the playoffs without lebron. Its tough to argue that either kyrie or love are top 50 players. They are just awful when lebron sits. Beyond awful really.

What are they like 2-17? And -17 pts/100 possessions?

[Edited on June 13, 2017 at 8:22 PM. Reason : A]

6/13/2017 7:54:39 PM

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Lebron going to Miami was Sputnik

KD just walked on the moon

6/14/2017 12:47:37 AM

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The Miami Heat were a super team. The revisionist history is insane.

These were the expectations going into their first season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYe8B--jrbs

Are they comparable to this GSW squad? Nah, GSW is a super-duper team. 73 wins + KD is stacking the deck moreso than any other squad has done in the past. Outside of injury I don't see how they lose a title between now and 2019/2020 when they have to resign Draymond and Klay.

But the Heat absolutely were a super team. IDK how Lebron can say that with a straight face.

IDK what Cavs can do from here, outside of hoping they can trade Love for another wing (Jimmy Butler/Paul George/Melo) to help them match up with GSW.

6/14/2017 9:31:58 AM

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I am loving this title more and more because it shows just how fragile Lebron's ego is. He grew up showered with praise and adoration and any slight against him sends him into a tizzy.

Yeah, he's one of the greatest players ever (I'd say top 5, but no way top 3) and while he's definitely the best player of the last generation or so, the amount of excuses his blindly devoted fans make for him is pathetic.

Have people actually forgotten about "the decision" already by completely erasing it from their memory? The motherfucker made a damn television special to announce to the world how he and his buddies were joining forces to assemble a super team so he could finally win a championship instead of wasting his time with the Cavs and rotting away in shitty ass Ohio. IIRC face even made some BS thread saying that first Heat team would beat the Bulls wins record (or something like that) and he also claimed the Bobcats wouldn't even win 10 games or another retarded claim. Not a super team? Um, OK. I guess if you want to change the definition of a super team to fit whatever Lebron says a super team is.

Yeah he's won three rings, but he's been to the finals how many times now? He's basically the GM for his own damn team and they still couldn't get it done. The East is weak as fucking shit too.

If he's smart, he should start making the transition to team owner ASAP, because if he loses another Finals to the Warriors he's going to implode ala Kayne or Mariah Carey. He's a fucking diva and you people need to stop making so many damn excuses for him.

[Edited on June 14, 2017 at 1:04 PM. Reason : .]

6/14/2017 1:01:08 PM

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[Edited on June 14, 2017 at 1:03 PM. Reason : dp]

6/14/2017 1:02:50 PM

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6/14/2017 1:07:03 PM

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How tf is Kyrie not a top 50 player?

6/14/2017 1:09:51 PM

UJustWait84
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You guys, Kyrie was hurt again in game 5. That's why the Cavs lost. They totally would have won the series otherwise.

6/14/2017 1:13:24 PM

thegoodlife3
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Skip Bayless is thought of as the absolute worst that sports media has to offer, yet you are attempting to emulate him with such ridiculous bullshit

pretty sad, but I guess it makes you feel good?

6/14/2017 1:24:19 PM

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I've been in Thailand and Singapore the past few days and I haven't watched Sportscenter since before I left for my trip, so I'm not trying to emulate anyone. I did read Lebron and Ty Lue's delusional comments saying they were right in the series and if they hadn't lost game three they would have won though. Gave me a nice laugh. The Kyrie excuses were cute too.

My flight lands around 9:35 am Thursday morning, which is perfect timing for the parade. Have fun making excuses for "The King" on your computer while I'm day drinking with the champs in Oakland

6/14/2017 1:35:43 PM

thegoodlife3
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what excuses are being made?

6/14/2017 1:40:33 PM

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"Yeah he's won three rings, but he's been to the finals how many times now? He's basically the GM for his own damn team and they still couldn't get it done. The East is weak as fucking shit too."

Lebron may be a whiner, but he is a top 2 NBA player right now and has been. The fact that a 73 win team had to add a superstar to beat him means that he is that good! [I know Curry was hurt and Draymond got suspended, but Lebron played lights out last year when it counted.]

6/14/2017 1:44:41 PM

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"Yeah he's won three rings, but he's been to the finals how many times now? "


If Jordan was so great, how come he only made 6 Finals?

6/14/2017 1:47:51 PM

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" Even though the Cleveland Cavaliers dropped the NBA Finals 4-1 to a Golden State Warriors team that averaged a staggering 121.6 points per game in the championship round, Cavs coach Tyronn Lue doesn't feel like his team is that far behind The Beast From The Bay.

"They beat us tonight," Lue said after the Warriors turned a three-point lead early on in the fourth quarter into a 14-point cushion before settling in for the 129-120 win to end the series on Monday. "I don't see a big gap. I thought we played well, got better each game. But against good teams you can't give away games, like Game 3 at home, and then expect to come here and win in a hostile environment."


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""After I hit my dang knee on the floor, after that my lower back started to tighten up," Irving said. "And as the fourth quarter started to happen, a lot of shots and layups that I normally make, they just weren't falling. So that kind of took the wind out of my sails."
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""Not one time did I feel like we were overmatched until probably like I looked up, there was like 1:20 [remaining in the fourth quarter], and we were down 13, I believe, or something at that point," James said. "And I was like, 'OK, we left everything on the floor, and it still wasn't enough.'"
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"They assembled a great team," James said. "We were able to get them last year, and they went out and got one of the best players that this league has ever seen, so they did a good job of -- a great job, their front office and their players, by doing that recruiting, the things that they did in the summertime, and obviously it paid dividends.""


Shade/excuses/blatant hyprocisy

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6/14/2017 1:48:48 PM

TreeTwista10
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I bet most real Warriors fans are enjoying their title, not obsessing over every word Lebron says

6/14/2017 1:50:53 PM

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"face claimed the Bobcats wouldn't even win 10 games or another retarded claim"


Not that face needs me to back him up but the Bobcats only won 7 games in 11-12.

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"How tf is Kyrie not a top 50 player?"


I'd assume defense/not being able to make others better on offense are the main offenders. I don't agree and think face is severely overlooking his play in last years finals, but the arguement is there.

IDK how you can rank 5 players ahead of Lebron though. MJ/Wilt/Kareem are only comparable for me. So hard to compare different eras though. The game has changed so much over the years.

6/14/2017 1:52:22 PM

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"I bet most real Warriors fans are enjoying their title, not obsessing over every word Lebron says"


If they're 'real NBA' fans, they're probably not all that excited since the two best players (Lebron and RW) didn't win this year, right? The Ws ruined the NBA for everyone.

I'd rather be a 'fake' Ws fan and go to two victory parades in three years, than a 'real' NBA fan who's going to sit at home at watch it on TV

6/14/2017 1:56:57 PM

thegoodlife3
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the only delusion I see at all is you finding any fault at all with any quote you felt the need to point out

especially you thinking the term "assembled" is some sort of shade

literally every team in every sport is assembled

6/14/2017 1:59:08 PM

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It's total shade. The same exact shade he threw at Steph last year when he won the unanmious MVP and he made those dumb ass comments about what "most valuable" really means. He's a diva and a hypocrite. Sorry it bothers you so much that I keep repeating it. Maybe Lebron should stop trying to define terms altogether since he sucks at it.


[Edited on June 14, 2017 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

6/14/2017 2:02:19 PM

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You can't blame the Warriors. I mean they drafted most of their super team and an unusual set of circumstances led to being able to add Durant. You know who else could have signed Durant this offseason? Every other team in the NBA. Sure he chose to go to GS but that was his choice and they definitely could have still won the title without him this year. Just because this was easily the best super team assembled doesn't mean that what LeBron did wasnt the same thing at that time. I'm actually glad they managed to snag that title last year though because it tainted that 73 win season. Even though I am not a huge LeBron fan it was cool to see him bring a ring to Cleveland and chances they manage to get another in the next 2 or 3 years is pretty slim.

6/14/2017 2:08:42 PM

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"IDK how you can rank 5 players ahead of Lebron though. MJ/Wilt/Kareem are only comparable for me. So hard to compare different eras though. The game has changed so much over the years."


Bill Russell, but yeah different eras. I already said Lebron is the greatest player of the latest generation though.

6/14/2017 2:16:43 PM

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oscar robertson, magic johnson. you can argue all day and night about who is the greatest NBA player of all time. there will never be a consensus, but lebron definitely is in the top tier in that discussion.

6/14/2017 3:31:59 PM

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Rarely do you see so much haterade from the winning side. U mad bro?

I would also never go to a victory parade. Just seems lame as fuck.

6/14/2017 3:34:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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it's what happens when you don't really know that much about basketball

a bit of overcompensation

6/14/2017 3:52:56 PM

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i feel like anybody that's mad about KD should go ahead and announce that GSW is the greatest team EVER. that's what you're admitting if you claim GSW to be a "superteam". otherwise, why u mad???

6/14/2017 5:15:01 PM

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Parades and parties and celebrations are so lame. Having fun is for 'fake' fans. I know we're all State fans, but damn, jealousy is a female trait.

This thread and season have been wonderful in countless ways. Thanks for laughs and memories TWW. Never change. Gotta catch my flight!

6/14/2017 8:59:39 PM

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Gsw is easily the best team ever. Who the hell would even attempt to argue otherwise?

Lebron is still the best ever but curry and durant are players unlike the league has ever seen. And they are on the same freaking team surrounded by other all stars and high end role players

6/15/2017 12:09:11 AM

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Its crazy to put this team in perspective. In an evenly distributed league, west, livingston and iggy would all be the 3rd piece of their team's big 3. They would all be the 2nd best player on Lebron and Iverson's first finals team. Iggy would have been the best defender on the Jazz's finals team.

6/15/2017 1:34:57 AM

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" In an evenly distributed league, west, livingston and iggy would all be the 3rd piece of their team's big 3. "


hahahahahahahahahahaha

6/15/2017 7:15:05 AM

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""They assembled a great team," James said. "We were able to get them last year, and they went out and got one of the best players that this league has ever seen, so they did a good job of -- a great job, their front office and their players, by doing that recruiting, the things that they did in the summertime, and obviously it paid dividends."""


how the fuck is this supposed to be "shade/excuses"? i feel like you're really grasping for straws here.

6/15/2017 7:28:46 AM

UJustWait84
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It directly relates to his "super team" comments/hypocrisy. How is that difficult to understand?

6/15/2017 11:41:41 AM

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"I'd rather be a 'fake' Ws fan and go to two victory parades in three years, than a 'real' NBA fan who's going to sit at home at watch it on TV "


I, too, am suddenly a Warriors fan!

It feels good to be a champ!

This is the first time I have experienced success in life, albeit it may be vicarious, but I'm a champ now! All of you other NBA viewers must be jealous of my association with GoldenState... I don't know if you heard, but I'm a GSW fan and we just won. Enjoy watching the parade, chumps!

JCE's GoldenState Warriors are on the path to success for the next 3 years!

[Edited on June 15, 2017 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .]

6/15/2017 11:49:09 AM

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https://streamable.com/owsvx

6/15/2017 12:57:09 PM

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^^he's complimenting your team and organization. "assembled" is what all teams do to form a roster...whether via draft, free agency, or trade. he's simply stating the fact that GSW lost in the Finals last year...then improved their team in the offseason and did not lose this year because they went out and got better. that's all fact...and none if it seems like shade to me, a fairly unbiased party.

6/15/2017 1:02:48 PM

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He said the "assembled" stuff right after they lost; he doubled down on them with his "super team" BS later. Anyway, I'm out to enjoy this amazing Oakland weather and good vibes.

If I see JCE at the parade, I'll kick him in the nuts for you TWW. You're welcome.

6/15/2017 1:17:04 PM

thegoodlife3
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you're starting to sound like a paranoid schizophrenic

6/15/2017 1:24:40 PM

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"He said the "assembled" stuff right after they lost;"


right, because he was complimenting the winning team/organization on making improvements to the roster that fell short of winning the title a year ago.

the "super team" comment was odd and most of us recognize that he was wrong. but he complimented the organization for putting together a team that won the championship...that's a compliment and you seem to be the only one with any sort of issue with the phrasing, i haven't heard or read anybody else echoing what you're saying. all teams are assembled. that word is not a shot at GSW. it's not shade and i certainly don't see how it's an "excuse"....his "excuse" is that GSW had a great team?

6/15/2017 1:34:12 PM

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You sound pretty tuff.

You're probably just salty MY GSW whooped your team this year. Your tears taste sooooo good.

6/15/2017 3:37:47 PM

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This thread sucks worse than the playoffs did.

Calling it right now. Nba ratings will be down HUGE next season.

Up for the lakers though obviously

6/16/2017 1:36:37 AM

prb185
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If the Warriors don't win it all again, there will be 2007 Patriots-level schadenfreude

6/16/2017 4:29:35 PM

UJustWait84
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^^ these past finals were the most watched since '98

6/17/2017 11:07:46 AM

TreeTwista10
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Outside of the Finals, the Eastern conference semifinals, and game 1 of the WCF, the playoffs weren't very exciting.

6/17/2017 12:24:38 PM

UJustWait84
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Not disagreeing with that, but people are obviously still watching the NBA and the Finals regardless. I said it in the thread before, but only a handful of teams have won a title in my lifetime. Yeah, it's annoying as a fan to endure another team's dynasty/success, but that's life. I'm going to enjoy the next few seasons while I can, because nothing lasts forever.

6/17/2017 12:58:34 PM

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but face said the playoffs sucked, not the Finals specifically

6/17/2017 1:46:20 PM

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