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davie could have won TWO championships

yesterday was 28 days!



[Edited on January 22, 2018 at 6:20 PM. Reason : fr]

1/22/2018 6:18:43 PM

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How to win a race and lose a good part of your fanbase at the same time.

1/22/2018 9:13:49 PM

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^ "i hope he chokes on that $200k"



[Edited on January 22, 2018 at 9:27 PM. Reason : l]

1/22/2018 9:25:04 PM

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Danica driving for Premium Motorsports in the Daytona 500.

It's a restrictor plate race, so team quality doesn't matter.

1/22/2018 9:49:08 PM

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^ true, she could dodge all the wrecks and get that elusive top 5

Charlotte roval removed some turns making it 15-20 seconds faster a lap. Here's cool a cool 360 VR YouTube video
https://youtu.be/69iOkjcvfDI

1/23/2018 4:14:04 AM

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Kyle Busch Upset With the Lack of Attention He is Getting

http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/22189081/kyle-busch-not-fan-nascar-marketing-campaigns-promoting-young-drivers

1/23/2018 8:01:30 PM

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^kyle busch in an ass

1/23/2018 8:21:37 PM

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^Yep! It isn't too hard to dislike him.

1/24/2018 2:56:36 PM

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lol. Nobody is marketing you kyle because you're a dickhead. its not that hard to see who nascar is marketing.......marketable dudes!

1/24/2018 3:48:45 PM

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Here is NASCAR Marketing's response to Kyle Busch...

http://www.racer.com/nascar/item/146944-nascar-responds-to-busch-criticism

1/24/2018 8:32:12 PM

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from Dave Moody
https://motorsports-soapbox.blogspot.com/2018/01/commentary-nascars-charter-system.html

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"Sunday, January 21, 2018

COMMENTARY: NASCAR's Charter System Headed For Slippery Slope


God help us, it’s happening again.


NASCAR’s Charter System, which guarantees qualified teams a starting spot in each of 36 point-counting races each season and pays enhanced purse and point fund monies to charter-holding teams, has begun to be manipulated in much the same way its predecessor was in prior seasons.


Go FAS Racing owner Archie St. Hilaire announced recently that he has purchased an ownership stake in Joe Falk’s Circle Sport Racing. Circle Sport fielded cars for Jeffrey Earnhardt last season -- in concert with TMG Motorsports – before parting company during the offseason. Go FAS Racing will now use the newly-acquired Circle Sport charter on the #32 car driven by Matt DiBenedetto this season.


After acquiring the Circle Sport charter, St. Hilaire then sold a percentage of his Go FAS organization to Wood Brothers Racing, allowing them to assume control of the charter he used a year ago, for use on Paul Menard’s No. 21 Ford this season.


Let’s review…


Joe Falk owns most of Circle Sport Racing, but not all of it.


Archie St. Hilaire owns most of GoFAS Racing, and now, and a little of Circle Sport.


The Wood Brothers own most of Wood Brothers Racing, along with a little bit of Go FAS.


Confused? Join the club.


Based on the newly announced Wood Brothers/Go FAS “partnership,” it now appears that a Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series team owner can pay a small amount of money – theoretically as little as $1 -- for a partial ownership stake in another organization, thereby assuming control of that team’s charter.


Much like the insanely complicated glory days of NASCAR Top-35 system, when owners bought, sold and traded owner points with dizzying regularity and few (if any) guidelines, the sanctioning body’s new Charter System has now been manipulated to the point where it no longer resembles what it was expressly designed to be.


Under guidelines hammered out by NASCAR and the Race Team Alliance prior to the 2016 season, 36 teams were granted charters that guaranteed them automatic entrance into every race for the next nine years. The idea was to reward teams for longstanding, full-season support of the series by giving them a tangible asset that could be sold, should they eventually elect to exit the sport. Charter holders were allowed to lease their charter to another team just once in a five-year period, should they elect not to compete themselves.


Despite no announced changes to the Charter bylaws in the last two years, it now appears that an new option has been added; the option to transfer a charter by selling a minority ownership stake to someone else.


As a result, a team owner without a single career start in NASCAR’s top series could – theoretically, at least – acquire a charter simply by purchasing a 1% share in a charter-holding team, instantly assuring himself of a guaranteed starting spot in every race.


That is categorically NOT what the Charter System was designed to be. In fact, it is exactly the opposite of what NASCAR and the RTA had in mind.


The original wording of the Charter bylaws included no mention of “co-ownership.” Either you owned a charter, leased one, or went without.


In addition to muddying the competitive waters, the concept of “co-ownership” strips all semblance of value from NASCAR’s 36 existing charters. Why would a team owner ever again pay six figures for a charter, when he can receive the same financial and procedural benefits by purchasing a tiny percentage of another, charter-holding team?


While it is tempting to point an accusatory finger at the parties involved in last week’s machinations, it would be short-sighted to do so. Falk, St. Hilaire and the Woods simply did what racers have always done; manipulating the gray area to their own benefit, without actually stepping outside the rules.


Falk found a way to protect a charter he was unlikely to use in 2018.


St. Hilaire laid his hands – in whole or in part – on no less than two charters, paving the way for his planned expansion to a two-car organization in 2019.


The Wood Brothers secured a guaranteed starting spot in every race this season, along with the beefier purse and point-fund checks that come with being a Charter holder.


Everyone wins, except for the sport, which once again finds itself sinking into a baffling morass of “how did THEY get a charter” puzzlement, the likes of which we hoped to never see again.


Hopefully, NASCAR will quickly draw a new line in the sand, adding language to its Charter bylaws to eliminate this “co-ownership” malarkey, once and for all."

1/24/2018 8:44:18 PM

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^moody is wrong there. It's better for a team owner to be able to receive a smaller amount of money than $0 and have Nascar reclaim charter because it's not being used.

1/25/2018 1:20:58 AM

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^ The charters aren't holding any value if a guy can buy 1% of a team for a dollar and that gives him the right to start every race. Of course the real financial details are not getting disclosed, but Starcom - a new team being ran by Derrike Cope - acquired a Charter from Childress for the coming season and are openly advertising for ride buyers to come to them. And we all saw Cope race last year, it's not like he has a ton of money. Want to defend the system, fine, but what's happening is the middle class and upper class have cars they can't fill, and these fly-by-night entries are getting guaranteed spots they don't deserve. Why were we protecting the right of Jeffrey Earnhardt to start every race last year? And this year, there are going to be more Jeffrey Earnhardts. It was a shit system 25 years ago when CART did something like this, it's a shit system now.

BK Racing have 2 charters and a bank has taken them to bankruptcy court to sell all assets. I can see NASCAR wanting to remove those like the Phoenix Coyotes from public auction so value does not get slammed.

[Edited on January 25, 2018 at 12:36 PM. Reason : .]

1/25/2018 12:23:19 PM

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Bubba Wallace says the 43 is funded for only 13 races, but they're running all 36.

Godspeed young man...

If he finds any success, I imagine Ford or NASCAR would have to keep him going, right?

1/25/2018 12:32:56 PM

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^bubba probably getting some of that drive for diversity money

^^if you want a charter to have more value the purse needs to go up. Restricting how you can make money off it would only lower value

I would rather an lower funded car show up than no car

[Edited on January 25, 2018 at 1:01 PM. Reason : T]

1/25/2018 12:44:36 PM

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Rolex 24 Qualifying results.

Juan Pablo Montoya's team starts 10th overall/DPi

A.J. Allmendinger's team starts 34th overall/7th in GTD

https://sportscarchampionship.imsa.com/schedule-results/current-results?eventid=84&sessid=570

1/25/2018 7:01:34 PM

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the worst part of the charter system is how it enables ride buyers. doesn't matter if you suck as long as you have a charter.

1/25/2018 8:03:33 PM

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doesn't matter if you suck as long as you have a charter. sponsor


1/25/2018 8:52:00 PM

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but in the old system, even with a sponsor, you weren't guaranteed a spot in the race if you couldn't stay in the top 35 in points

[Edited on January 25, 2018 at 9:30 PM. Reason : i guess i'm going to have to get a fucking antenna to watch the 500]

1/25/2018 9:30:21 PM

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You have to go down to 8th place in qualifying to find a car without an Indycar driver connection.

NASCAR must've given up on something (promotion forthe race?) because there are hardly any NASCAR guys in this field compared to who used to drive in this race.

[Edited on January 26, 2018 at 2:59 PM. Reason : ..]

1/26/2018 2:55:24 PM

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^There were some who raced today in the Continental Tire Challenge who have Xfinity and Truck experience. It would be nice to see a few more of the big stars from NASCAR's top 3 divisions get behind the wheel in the Rolex 24 again.

1/26/2018 5:51:37 PM

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1/26/2018 8:23:14 PM

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Anyone watching the race? Looks like the Ford GTs are some of the best in GTLM.

1/27/2018 10:57:09 PM

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Rolex 24 NASCAR Results

Austin Cindric 6th overall/6th in Prototype
Juan Pablo Montoya 10th overall/10th in Prototype
AJ Allmendinger 22nd overall/2nd in GTD

1/28/2018 3:56:46 PM

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^was hoping ding-a-lings would win

1/28/2018 4:32:38 PM

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^They said it was Lamborghini's first ever win at a major race. I'm assuming they meant 10+ hour endurance race.

GTLM was a yawner. I would love to know how many minutes someone other than a Ford GT team was in the lead.

JPM is going to have to learn to not get so pushy in those long races.

1/28/2018 6:06:17 PM

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congrats to chip ganassi on his 200th win

1/28/2018 6:46:42 PM

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^Yeah that's pretty good considering they started in 1990. I'm glad number 200 happened like it did. Finishing 1 and 2 in one of the prestige endurance races to start the racing season is better than winning your 200th at some random event like NASCAR at Kansas.

[Edited on January 28, 2018 at 7:40 PM. Reason : .]

1/28/2018 7:39:34 PM

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nascar owners starting an iracing league that will have 6 figure purse for first race https://esportsobserver.com/nascar-teams-building-esports-effort/

1/29/2018 6:32:25 PM

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^^ "Starting in 1990" was buying Pat Patrick's team in Indycar, who were already proven winners. Few people realize this because he was sponsored by Marlboro, but when Emerson Fittipaldi won Indy in 1989 he was driving for Patrick (which became Ganassi). Fittipaldi took the Marlboro sponsorship with him to Penske.

1/30/2018 8:28:21 PM

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Been working on these for most of a year. Pretty happy with them as they are now so putting them out there for your reading pleasure. They are meant to be tongue-in-cheek, some funny, some serious, and touch all corners of the racing world.

The Unofficial Rules of Auto Racing

General

1. Auto racing is not, nor has it even been, a “fair” sport.
2. The proper phrase for racing fans to describe other sports is “stick and ball”.
3. European auto racing is a white-collar sport. American auto racing is a blue-collar sport. Japanese auto racing is a corporate sport.
4. The sport revolves around money (for a candy-coated version of this truth, see the film Speed Racer). But auto racing commentators are barred from acknowledging this when discussing why certain drivers lacking talent are in the field or why a Formula One race is taking place in Azerbaijan.
5. The cost of a component for a race car is whatever the cost would be for that component for a normal car, multiplied by 74.
6. Age requirements to participate do not apply if you are the son of a former driver.
7. Talent requirements to participate do not apply if you are the son of a former driver.
8. Talent requirements do not exist at all if the driver provides funding for the car, the crew, the travel, the owner’s wife and girlfriend(s), etc.
9. If you allow manufacturers to set the rules to their desires, they will have freedom of design innovation and creativity, but will probably withdraw from the series within a few years because expenses went up so high (see every sportscar series ever and MotoGP circa 2011).

Formula One

10. All Formula One teams are equal, but some Formula One teams are more equal than others.
11. Ferrari are very equal.
12. The top two-thirds of the grid are seriously good drivers. The back one-third of the grid are random ride buyers not much more talented than the guys they raced against back in Formula 3.
13. The worst seasons to watch are when one team is omnipotent over the rest of the field and the #2 driver for that team is not allowed to challenge #1 (see Rubens Barrichello’s career).
14. The only approved designer for new Formula One tracks is Hermann Tilke.
15. Formula One race course technical approval will only be given after the organizer’s checks to the multiple Formula One financial entities clears.
16. Americans are ineligible to participate in Formula One, unless the American can satisfy Rule 8.
17. All Formula One tracks are required to have half a kilometer of runoff everywhere. The concept of “track limits” are banned in track design. (“Track limits” is in Formula One a pre-2000 term used to describe “track position punishment” or “car damage punishment” for the driver if he for example missed the apex of a corner and/or went off track, thereby ending up in a worse position or further behind than before as a penalty for making a driving mistake.)
18. Rule 17 does not apply to the Monaco Formula One Grand Prix, otherwise the champagne and glamour crowd would get in a huff.
19. Following on from Rules 17 and 18, any driver that attempts an on-track pass for position at the Monaco Formula One Grand Prix will be investigated by the stewards during the race for unsafe driving practices.
20. The year-end results and standings of European junior racing formulas are 90% irrelevant to determining the drivers that get promoted to higher auto racing series (see Rules 6, 7, and 8).
21. The British Formula One press are a rabid animal unto themselves.
22. A decent-sized minority of Formula One fans are not fans of actual racing per se.
23. No one loves Bernie Ecclestone, not even his children.
24. The wave around rule is beyond stupid and dumb.

NASCAR

25. NASCAR surpassed Indycar to become the #1 motorsport series in the United States on August 6th, 1994, when Jeff Gordon won the inaugural Brickyard 400. The victory represented everything right with NASCAR and everything wrong with CART at the time.
26. The only acceptable phrases used by people living outside the United States to describe NASCAR racing are “Days of Thunder” and “Ricky Bobby”.
27. The only approved owners for NASCAR Cup tracks are the International Speedway Corporation (ISC) and Speedway Motorsports, Inc. (SMI). Tracks in violation of this rule are only allowed to host races by a grandfather clause. Any track currently not hosting a Cup event but wishing to become one needs to first be sold to either ISC or SMI for pennies on the dollar.
28. Any time the leader of a NASCAR race gets a lead of more than 5 seconds, sit expecting a caution flag for debris to come out.
29. Selective enforcement of when to throw a caution flag is not only in effect but actively encouraged. When one is thrown or not depends on who is winning the race, whether NASCAR wants him to win, how large a lead he has, and if throwing the yellow would really spice up the entertainment and drama factor.
30. When looking at historical data, completely ignore everything that occurred in Richard Petty’s career after the 1984 Firecracker 400.
31. Any time TV ratings or attendance goes down, Brian France will come up with a minor alteration to NASCAR’s Chase/Playoffs format. This will be universally praised by the TV commentators as the best thing since Sliced Bread/Joey Logano. The best thing since Sliced Bread/Joey Logano will then be altered…again…the following year.
32. The stage format is cover so they can have two prearranged long cautions for the TV networks to do commercials.
33. Daytona and Talladega are big clusterfucks of races that require the least driver talent to win at on the circuit. (See Michael Waltrip, Derrike Cope, Trevor Bayne, Bobby Hillin Jr., Jimmy Spencer, David Ragan, Greg Sacks, and Phil Parsons.)
34. 10 of Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s 26 career wins were at Daytona and Talladega.
35. Restrictor plates were brought in to stop cars from jumping the fence at Daytona or Talladega, going into the crowd, and NASCAR being sued out of existence from all the aggrieved family members. Restrictor plates now exist to tighten everyone up and create big crashes…which is the most likely future cause of aggrieved family members attempting to sue NASCAR out of existence.
36. The best thing that ever happened to NASCAR was the rise of Jeff Gordon. He opened the sport up to new fans, new sponsors, and the series got larger than ever before venturing into new markets previously indifferent to stock car racing.
37. The worst thing that ever happened to American auto racing was the rise of Jeff Gordon. He opened NASCAR up to guys getting rides in the big series simply because they were young and good looking, talent be damned (hi Casey Atwood), and suddenly the grassroots became filled with daddies spending fortunes so young Ricky Bobby could be the next Gordon and get a Cup ride at 20 years old, forcing everyone to spend to simply keep up and completely changing the grassroots, removing a lot of pathways for blue-collar racers to simply race, making the sport even more about money than it was before (see Rules 3 and 4).
38. Kyle Busch will likely win his 201st NASCAR national series race in a Truck race with few fans in attendance and only 3 to 4 Trucks that can stay on the same straightaway as him within 10 laps. He’ll then throw a pissy fit in the media and wonder why no one cares that he beat Richard Petty’s win record.
39. The wave around rule is beyond stupid and dumb.

Indycar

40. Never mention the Split.
41. Roger Penske is smarter than you.
42. The fanbase is split into the oval crowd and the road racing crowd. The oval crowd idolize A.J. Foyt. The road racing crowd idolize Mario Andretti. Almost all arguments about the sport revolve around this difference in the fanbase.
43. When an Andretti has a huge lead at Indianapolis, mechanical misfortune will occur to him on the backstretch.
44. When looking at historical data, completely ignore everything that occurred in A.J. Foyt’s career where the races were sanctioned by CART.
45. If you attempt to take a trophy away from A.J. Foyt in Victory Lane, he will bitchslap you.
46. Nigel Mansell is the biggest crybaby ever.
47. John is everyone’s favorite member of the Andretti family.
48. The fans that exist in the online community are sometimes incredibly irrational (why Rule 40 exists). For example, some did not like Danica Patrick in Indycar even though she was the series’ top fan draw because in their opinion she was not good enough to be in the series. But in a lot of cases the same fans had no problem with anonymous European ride buyer #62 that finished in the back half of the field.
49. Scott Dixon is an absolutely phenomenal racecar driver. He is also an absolutely terrible fan draw.
50. Will Power is the king of the one-finger salute.
51. Everyone that is not a powerbroker in the sport agrees it is idiotic to follow up Indianapolis with a doubleheader at Belle Isle.
52. Everyone that is not a powerbroker in the sport agrees Michigan is a better track to have a race on than Belle Isle.
53. Why does the post-Indianapolis Belle Isle doubleheader exist then? See Rules 4 and 41.
54. The phrase “Well you see Paul…” will be engraved on Bobby Unser’s tombstone.
55. Rick Mears is one of the all-time greats and biggest legends in the sport. No one would hire him if he was coming up today however because he wouldn’t be considered good enough on road courses.
56. Indycar owners can tend to be the ones most out of touch with their audience as far as understanding why the fans are fans (hi Chip Ganassi).
57. The leader of the race is not allowed to pass the pace car on a restart.
58. However, lapped cars can pass the pace car under caution because of the wave around rule. The wave around rule is beyond stupid and dumb.

[Edited on February 1, 2018 at 7:06 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2018 7:05:03 PM

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Sportscars

59. If you are watching a sportscar race and sit wondering how the car owner possibly got all the money to fund his car(s), chances are he is funding the race team through criminal means.
60. IMSA is an acronym for a sanctioning body of American sportscar racing. It has two meanings: the International Motor Sports Association, and the International Marijuana Smugglers’ Association.
61. Technical rules are set by whichever manufacturer can strong arm the sanctioning body best via money paid and threats to leave if they don’t get their way.
62. There is no such thing as purse money.
63. It is almost impossible for a privateer to defeat a factory car straight up. If it does happen, the factory car should probably withdraw from the sport within the year.
64. Privateers are the lifeblood of the sport though. If they disappear, so will the sportscar series a few years after the manufacturers inevitably pull out (see Rule 9, almost every FIA-sanctioned sportscar series ever, IMSA GTP, American Le Mans Series, the current ACO LMP1 class).
65. Following on from Rule 64, gentleman drivers, frowned upon elsewhere, are welcomed with open arms as the only way to pay the bills for a non-factory effort, and can lean on their co-driver to even win overall races here (see Milka Duno's career).

Other

66. No one has any clue what ACCUS (Automobile Competition Committee for the United States) is or does.
67. It was once said that “NASCAR exists for its fans, CART exists for its sponsors, and the SCCA exists for its corner workers.” One of the three is still true.
68. The most byzantine racing organization in North America is the SCCA.
69. The Trans-Am Series can work, it just needs to be ran professionally.
70. Finland are the best country in the world in producing most quality drivers per capita.
71. The purest auto race in the world is the Baja 1000. Honorable mention to Irish motorcycle road racing.
72. Rally racing is simply the most out-of-control fun looking racing there is out there. It’s also difficult to near impossible to televise properly.
73. Almost every Japanese driver in a European or North American racing series is there by request of a Japanese car manufacturer, or their father owns Panasonic.
74. The demographics of the Supercross fanbase is the most desirable of any racing series. Not too coincidentally, it’s also a series where the star riders’ bodies are normally done at 30 years old.
75. If you ever want to start an incredibly meaningless bench racing argument that could go on for awhile, talk about what the best points system is.
76. No actual fans of Formula E exist yet. It seems to be a series competing on Mickey Mouse track designs to allow companies to say “we do X” instead of there being any actual interest in the product. Then again, see Rule 4.
77. In an era when the number of American TV channels has exploded, USAC racing has less national television coverage now than it did in the late 1980s.
78. For some reason, USAC drivers can no longer race on pavement, unless it’s a Silver Crown race.
79. Following on from Rules 77 and 78, USAC still has good racing, and they don’t have a beyond stupid and dumb wave around rule.
80. Seriously, why does the wave around rule exist? This is completely indefensible from a competition point of view. You can go an entire lap down and it miraculously doesn’t matter when the caution flag flies? Why are we counting laps then? Watch races from 15 to 30 years ago and realize how much more boring they would be if cars early in the event going a lap down was hand-waved into nothing once the yellow flag flew. You remove almost all meaning from the first half of the race because there’s no winnowing process for who is in contention for the win outside of mechanicals and crashes. Drivers in the back half of the pack don’t race one another to try and stay away from the leader as long as possible. Otherwise you’re presented with the sorry spectacle of 25 cars on the lead lap at the end of the race and guys in the back half of that acting like “well, we had a good car, just couldn’t get track position”. Just fuck off.
81. Following on from Rule 80, if you are a journalist that does not understand why the leader would be following cars on the tail end of the lead lap behind the pace car, auto racing is too complicated a sport for you to handle. Tell your editor, quit, and find another job. (Not to mention it was always very entertaining for the race fan to see the leader with 2nd, 3rd, and so on right on his tail try to negotiate lap traffic in tight racing quarters.)
82. Warts and all, auto racing is still a great sport.
83. If calling auto racing a sport upsets you, how did you make it this long through these?[/

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^hot takes everywhere


only 14 days left!





[Edited on February 4, 2018 at 8:11 AM. Reason : d]

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2/7/2018 5:37:20 PM

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Instagram hoe decker on the pole for the ARCA race today. Could get wacky

2/10/2018 11:48:24 AM

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Who?

2/10/2018 12:23:31 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/p/BcJQya2g2vv/?hl=en

2/10/2018 12:45:45 PM

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*sigh*

2/10/2018 3:29:10 PM

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2 laps in and that poor girl can't hold a straight wheel to save her life. You can just watch the car bobble back and forth through the turns

2/10/2018 4:53:39 PM

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this arca race is a shitshow

2/10/2018 7:10:53 PM

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^Yeah I hate it when drivers start racing in the last 10 laps and take each other out. This race should have been finished an hour ago. As much as I hate to say it, stock car racing needs to go back to ending races under caution. Indy Car, IMSA, and the WEC all do it. One of the things that I think has made stock car racing less popular is the amount of time it takes to finish a race.

2/10/2018 7:16:01 PM

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no ride height rules at plate tracks in cup this year, cars looked slammed. some teams are also reverse dog tracking the rear end for some reason. weird

[Edited on February 11, 2018 at 6:29 AM. Reason : 7]

2/11/2018 6:28:23 AM

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man, "NASCARS most successful female driver ever" is really getting worn out already

lmao...they're playing darrell wallace playing the drums on his instagram during his entire qual lap....

[Edited on February 11, 2018 at 12:38 PM. Reason : sdf]

2/11/2018 12:38:02 PM

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We'll, it's not untrue. Who's her competition, Patty Moise and Shawna Robinson?

2/11/2018 3:23:15 PM

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Light field for the Clash, 17 cars.

2/11/2018 3:24:50 PM

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These cars are sooo low.

Kahne lost the draft and losing 2 seconds a lap. Larson in the 42 had a nice save going into the apron in turn 1.

2/11/2018 3:34:11 PM

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Last car in line has trouble keeping up, and the bubble at the back of the car isn't there anymore. Going to be an interesting race with this package.

2/11/2018 4:59:10 PM

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Only 40 cars showed up for Daytona.

Time to go on my biannual rant of how my two favorite quirky racing events of the year, the Daytona Twins and Indy 500 Bump Day, have become nothi ng.

2/11/2018 5:49:04 PM

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