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Yeah, ive kinda lost track of our team philosophy myself. Just seems like a garbled mess of players that dont really know what theyre supposed to be doing on the court right now. And 20 games into the season...thats on the coach.

And i am damn jealous of the offense unc runs. Constant movement, crisp passes. Just so much better than whatever we have run theblast 3 decades

2/7/2019 7:53:14 AM

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"Wait. So instead of acknowledging that a bunch of highly rated recruits are likely to be better than a team cobbled together from juco and mid/low major transfers in the context of unc simply having better athletes than us, we are going to argue semantics. Don’t ever change wolf web.

^Literally everyone had lecque at 5 star before he signed with us. "


Semantics? You said we have a couple 5* and a couple 4* coming to campus, that implies we have a bunch of new recruits. SKJ and Bates have been on campus. Bates hasn't played basketball in almost 2 years. SKJ will be a good edition, probably easily better than Walker, but star ratings are used to predict college performance. Like I said, it's silly to keep using star ratings after someone has played 2 years in college and only once posted double digit scoring or rebounds.

As for Leque, yea people had him at 5, then watched him play more and downgraded him. You can't brag on star ratings but then claim some conspiracy in star ratings.


Also, Funderburk, Beverly, Harris and Daniels are all high major transfers but are mostly sitting behind low/mid major transfers.

[Edited on February 7, 2019 at 9:05 AM. Reason : E]

2/7/2019 8:55:23 AM

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I agree that we don’t seem to have much of an offensive identity right now. We do pick and roll stuff and shoot a lotta 3s. But it often doesn’t seem to flow well.

2/7/2019 9:08:34 AM

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Our offense is based on one on one mathchups, our guy beating there guy. That's one area that Lecque should def help, assuming he can get his outside shot semi consistent.

On another note, Saddiq Bey has been playing really well at Nova wish we had him


Also Markell seems to be the only one who is good at driving and kicking, and he seems to have taken a step back this season and/or post injury. Dorn, daniels and Bryce all seem to put their head down and get stuck when the defense collapses. So long story short, we're just not good enough for this type of offense (like DMS has said)

Also Dorn loves those one foot inside the 3pt shots. I wish we had some analytics for his percentages there

[Edited on February 7, 2019 at 9:22 AM. Reason : E]

2/7/2019 9:13:15 AM

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We need December/Early January Markell back and we will be fine. The schedule is favorable from here on. We will probably be favored in 6/8. 10-8 still very possible. Hell we've beat Duke the last two years. We could pull it off again.

@ Pitt
vs Cuse
@ Duke
vs BC
vs Wake
@ FSU
vs GT
@ BC

[Edited on February 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM. Reason : Win the 4 home games and split the 2 road. It can be done. ]

2/7/2019 10:25:19 AM

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"Hell we've beat Duke the last two years. We could pull it off again."


nah

We haven't beaten a Coach K led Duke team @ Cameron since the late 80s. This is an auto L.

2/7/2019 10:50:47 AM

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^I mean, I definitely think we're going to lose to Duke, but we literally beat them in Cameron in 2017????

2/7/2019 2:15:04 PM

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Here I'll bold the important part of that for you

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"We haven't beaten a Coach K led Duke team @ Cameron since the late 80s. This is an auto L."

2/7/2019 2:21:16 PM

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Oh right I forgot he was pretending to be injured that year

Whatever, it's still a team of NBA players

2/7/2019 2:24:29 PM

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https://www.wralsportsfan.com/nc-state-gets-first-win-at-duke-since-1995-proves-2017-worth/16465455/

2/7/2019 2:26:13 PM

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"it's still a team of NBA players"


Who went on a losing streak with their coach was absent

2/7/2019 2:34:21 PM

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We may have to forfeit that win with Dennis Smith Jr. Whie on the topic of Duke our offense reminds me of theirs when they had Singler, Smith, and Scheyer. Spread the ball around the perimeter with one big man, except they could shoot threes well and us not so much.

2/7/2019 7:03:19 PM

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^^^ i remember storming hillsboro street...then we never won another game. lol

2/7/2019 11:13:05 PM

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In addition to Lockett (personal issue) and Harris's (illness) explained absences tonight, SKJ is also absent, without an explanation.

2/13/2019 9:31:55 PM

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"We may have to forfeit that win with Dennis Smith Jr"


I mean Duke didn't forfeit any for playing Corey Maggette and he was getting paid.

2/13/2019 9:39:30 PM

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^^on thewolfpacker they have hinted at maybe an unexpected scholarship being open next year...nothing confirmed or anything, but SKJs future would appear to be in question perhaps

2/13/2019 9:41:56 PM

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I've heard disciplinary. Not sure if suspension or dismissal.

2/13/2019 9:46:18 PM

yrey
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^ You got to be kidding, We can't keep losing all of our top recruits, that ish not sustainable.

2/13/2019 10:05:45 PM

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I'm not sure he's a "top recruit" but he def would be useful.

That said, if it's disciplinary, not sure what you could do different. Glad our coaches take that stuff seriously at least.

2/13/2019 10:09:11 PM

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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a former 5 star recruit is a talent upgrade over Wyatt Walker.

2/13/2019 10:11:43 PM

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you're right that isn't not sustainable (Steere and Bey being the other two examples, i assume).

but.

nothing is official yet. if true, it seems to be a discipline issue. i wouldn't jump to conclusions because this recruiting class isn't finished...we still can add to it. and if it's a discipline issue, all bets are off...that shit isn't really predictable. it's bad news, imo, when good players like the Martins make lateral transfer moves. it's never good to have a player kicked off the team, but that's not necessarily an indicator of what's to come in future classes.

i do wonder how Keatts will approach transfers/juco/grad transfers in future years. was the influx transfers just bridging the gap until the he can get a few recruiting classes in? is that type of roster turnover his norm? it's ok if it is, because he had a full roster this year. the problem with Gott was we were scrambling to field a team...Keatts has us plenty of bodies.

^hey...walker played good tonight

[Edited on February 13, 2019 at 10:12 PM. Reason : d]

2/13/2019 10:11:58 PM

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^^i'm not sure if you were arguing with me or just make a comment but
1. i never said he wouldnt be an upgrade over any current players, but
2. funderburk was more highly rated out of HS and Walker starts
3. for some reason bball reference doesnt have SKJ conf stats for last year, but for all games per 100 possessions, Walker is averaging more points and rebounds than SKJ.
4. Walker also has more double digit reb games (2) and pts (2) games this year than SKJ ever had (0 for both).

[Edited on February 13, 2019 at 10:27 PM. Reason : e]

2/13/2019 10:26:18 PM

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SKJ is done according to the premuium talking heads. Never ends .

2/13/2019 10:27:50 PM

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"Kevin Keatts on Sacha-Killeya Jones not being on the bench: "Sacha is no longer on the team. That's all I'll say for now.""

2/13/2019 10:28:18 PM

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high school recruiting stars are pretty dumb in the first place. but even dumber to try and use after a guy has played multiple seasons of college basketball.

2/13/2019 10:28:52 PM

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We didn’t want him anyway.

2/13/2019 10:30:31 PM

rwoody
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I always love when Tree or Justin agrees with me! Good vibes!

2/13/2019 10:30:45 PM

cptinsano
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well shit.

2/13/2019 10:30:55 PM

justinh524
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^^^^well it doesn't matter because he's gone now and I'll forget he even existed in about 30 minutes.

2/13/2019 10:31:19 PM

TreeTwista10
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rumor has it that his dismissal from the team was after he was caught naked and intoxicated in public with Greg Fishel

2/13/2019 10:32:13 PM

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With the SKJ news, I’d love to get Buddy Boeheim in as a transfer to add some depth.

2/13/2019 10:33:13 PM

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[Edited on February 13, 2019 at 10:35 PM. Reason : Gonna delete that one until we find out what happened..... ]

2/13/2019 10:33:44 PM

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Ok R Wood I guess I will too!

[Edited on February 13, 2019 at 10:38 PM. Reason : I don’t give a shit though ]

2/13/2019 10:35:57 PM

rwoody
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I have absolutely no idea. CYA activity

2/13/2019 10:37:35 PM

TreeTwista10
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Ran over Markell's back with a Bird scooter

2/13/2019 10:37:37 PM

packboozie
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At least with SKJ you can use the scholarship, Lockett would be a big loss for this team. Harris eh.

2/13/2019 10:39:13 PM

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The radio crew said Lockett was out for family reasons, fwiw.

2/13/2019 10:40:32 PM

rwoody
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Yea Lockett and Harris were both explained. I mean, could always be BS I guess, but they were explained pre game

2/13/2019 10:42:11 PM

dmspack
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Don’t think there’s anything to worry about without harris or Lockett. Harris is sick. Lockett had a “personal issue”. Seemingly unrelated.

2/13/2019 10:45:10 PM

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It does suck to see yet another player leaving but I guess this is the new norm. I wonder if we have more turnover than other programs?

2/13/2019 10:54:24 PM

rwoody
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This isn't a "player leaving" in that way

2/13/2019 10:55:33 PM

jocristian
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I'm over this new era of seemingly never ending player movement. I don't have numbers or anything, but it seems to happen much more regularly at tier 2 programs like us.

2/13/2019 10:56:24 PM

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Did you know that Harris had the flu? Also, Lockett missed the game with a personal issue. Tell your friends.

2/13/2019 10:56:28 PM

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We seemed to have more-than-usual turnover under Gott, but the college bball landscape as a whole has a lot more transfers than it used to. Kids don't want to compete for playing time, they want to go somewhere where they're handed the keys.

[Edited on February 13, 2019 at 10:59 PM. Reason : #getoffmylawn #oldaf]

2/13/2019 10:56:29 PM

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Yeah this seems to more of a get the fuck outta here to SKJ than the traditional transfer.

2/13/2019 11:00:33 PM

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"personal issue" solved - https://www.wralsportsfan.com/nc-state-basketball-s-eric-lockett-arrested-charged-with-assault/18191595/

2/14/2019 6:33:23 AM

dmspack
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damn, lockett.

2/14/2019 6:39:53 AM

BJCaudill21
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Not guilty

2/14/2019 7:05:06 AM

rwoody
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Well. Shit.

2/14/2019 7:17:46 AM

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Unless the charges are just dropped altogether, I assume he’s done. He’s a senior and there’s only a few weeks left in the regular season.

2/14/2019 7:31:26 AM

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