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Mourinho already in full season 3 cunt mode. What a miserable sack of shit. I hope he signs a contract extension.

7/29/2018 10:52:30 AM

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Ah the anti united circlejerk has begun. I love it. I hope he signs an extension too, that means he has probably won something. While Liverpool celebrate a pre season win over United. Small time club with small time fans, not surprising.

7/29/2018 5:42:00 PM

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yeah I don't care about the preseason game. I would care if my prick manager insulted the fans, the youth players, the captain and some of the team's brightest talents. Guess that's just a small time club and small time fan type thing.

7/29/2018 6:17:54 PM

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I suggest you read all of Jose's comments before spouting nonsense. Insult fans? I am in agreement with Jose, Americans are stupid as fuck to pay hundreds of dollars to watch a meaningless match.

His only complaint has been about signings. In which case I agree with our board. Jose has been given a lot of money and spent a lot on players. Now it's time to play them. I agree with Jose that we at least need a wing back but sell some Deadwood and get on with it. If he doesn't then he is gonna get sacked.

Too much noise right now given the lack of real football being played. It's hilarious how easy it is to start a circlejerk.

7/29/2018 6:30:22 PM

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circle jerk circle jerk circle jerk

I read his entire comments man. Stuff about Martial was uncalled for. Regardless of if you agree about Yanks spending $$$, it's pretty insulting to tell the fans that did they wasted their money. Didn't expect you to actually be objective about anything re: United anyway though.

7/29/2018 6:48:13 PM

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It's funny because my comment is actually quiet objective. Your view is basically black and white with no context. I clearly criticised Mou for wanting more players but he wants old players with no resale value. I agree with Uniteds board because Mou needs to be able to justify his spending. He's spent on two CBs now. While we may legitimately need one more he can't just stockpile them. People love to criticize Uniteds transfer policy and yet the board is showing it has a plan.

Regarding martial uncalled for? What is wrong with what he said? Literally said glad he has had a great baby and now that it's been born he should be back in training. Martial is being extremely unprofessional and I am happy to get rid now. Again how is that not being objective? I guess if Salah had a kid and flew home but refused to come back you would still suck his dick.

7/30/2018 2:52:45 AM

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Yea crazy someone would want to spend some time with their baby like in every other profession

7/30/2018 7:12:56 AM

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I mean the same exact thing is happening with Clyne

7/30/2018 9:31:53 AM

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Soon as that head pokes out the ungrateful fuck better be full sprinting to the practice field

7/30/2018 9:57:36 AM

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If I am getting paid millions to prepare and be ready for the new season then yes it is absolutely his responsibility to be back after 2-3 days. He is going to be back in Manchester in a week. United's situation right now is dire in terms of players still on vacation or hurt. Martial would have been a nailed on starter in the first few matches. He has cost himself that opportunity.

Stop comparing football to other professions. They are getting paid millions and have so much power in these days of commercialised football. Shows his lack of commitment and ambition. I understand needing to be there for the birth but now it's done, get back and do show how much you want to succeed. That is the very least Jose demands and I continue saying I love this part of Jose. Be committed or GTFO. Any great manager will demand that. I highly doubt Klopp would be happy with his player going back home and missing critical fitness/training. He may not say it publically but he certainly wouldn't be happy.

7/30/2018 10:12:52 AM

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my man, almost the exact same situation happened with Clyne and they handled it differently. Clyne left the US and didn't come back and will wait to rejoin the team in France. Mourinho expected Martial to fly back.

Also, Henderson wanted to skip his holiday and Klopp wouldn't let him. You don't have to treat players like shit, even if they get paid millions.

7/30/2018 11:54:36 AM

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I guess it's time to sell Martial. He's not committed, SO GTFO


Oh and btw what possible good does it do you to air this in the press? Seems like this could be something bw him and Martial/the team. Publicly lashing seems unlikely to be good for morale.

Just like insulting the fans, it you feel that way, fine, just keep it to yourself. Those fans buy jerseys and help find Mourinhos transfer budget, maybe a few may now hold off support while he is the manager.

[Edited on July 30, 2018 at 12:03 PM. Reason : E]

7/30/2018 11:57:40 AM

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Again I don't think you understand how dire the situation is with our first team right now.

Rojo, Pogba, Fellaini, Jones, Young, Rashford, Lingard, Lindelof, and Lukaku are all still out on vacation due to deep World Cup runs. 4 are nailed on starters and the rest are very important to our season. Jose hasn't complained about this BTW.

De Gea and Fred just joined the team. 5 starters and our best new signing missed most of pre season training with 10 days to prep. I can only see De Gea starting out of this group of players on day 1.

Valencia, Matic, Dalot and Bailly are all hurt and likely to miss the start of the season but maybe Bailly will be ok. 6 of our starting 11 are out and if Bailly can't go then 7. Their backups are also out (Fellaini, Dalot, Rash, Jones, Rojo, Lindelof and now Martial). Yes easy for Klopp to give Clyne and Henderson time off when most of your team is at pre season and training for match fitness but I suppose Jose has no right to be complaining when his squad is looking thin and not training together.

Continue believing the media agenda against United. I can see why Jose is frustrated. I don't agree with how he has gone about it but I can empathize. He is asking for his players to give more and his club to back him. All you will hear is complaints despite the fact that he ended his rant by saying if he doesn't get the players he wants then he will manage and fight with the players he does have. Never once got reported. Gotta love this though. Only United would get a clear agenda against them after one meaningless pre season match.

Yes actually I do want Martial sold if it means we can getsomeone like peresic or Willian. . His attitude is highly questionable and while I have no doubts he will go on to become a great player if he actually puts his mind to working hard I am not fussed about losing him anymore.

[Edited on July 30, 2018 at 12:22 PM. Reason : A]

7/30/2018 12:19:09 PM

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The media's vicious attacks on Jose by printing his direct quotes. How dare they.

All the preamble to say you empathize but don't agree with the tactics which is pretty much the whole point.

7/30/2018 12:43:07 PM

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The whole point is its not black or white. Why can't there be a middle ground? You and I both know quotes can be manipulated by not presenting the whole story. Instead I see pool fans are happy to jump on board with the media and I can't blame you, the hate probably flows through you all the time.

Jose is putting pressure on the board by going public. I don't agree with it but he is basically shifting the blame. Its who he has always been and always will be so I don't get why people are surprised by this. He has a point as well. He sees pool and city strengthen their weaknesses and knows we aren't too far off if he can get at least a RW and a RB. FFS we have been playing with two converted wingers as RB/LB. This isn't Jose's fault and more so LVG's because both Darmian and Shaw have under performed. The board is afraid of spending large sums on players with no resale value and there basically isn't someone available in those positions that is reasonable and between 22-27.

I still think we sell Darmian, one of Rojo and Jones and get Alderwiereld. If we can add a RW on top of that it would have been a successful window. If that means we sell Martial to fund Perisic I am all for it.

[Edited on July 30, 2018 at 12:58 PM. Reason : a]

7/30/2018 12:56:38 PM

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I'm not sure why you think "surprise" is the emotion being expressed

I wonder if you would agree with this statement: "yea has a dick, but he's our dick and I'll live with it as long as he keeps winning/beating Liverpool" or something like that. If you don't, then fine, but if so just say that and those things can be much shorter and we can all move on with our lives.

[Edited on July 30, 2018 at 2:06 PM. Reason : E]

7/30/2018 1:55:24 PM

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Wazza is trolling all of you. Stop responding to him.

also this was solid gold lol

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"It's such a stupid ass argument. Liverpool is spending a shit ton of money but guess what? So is every other fucking team in the league. "No excuses for Liverpool because they're spending money." Here's one, the best team in the league and the second place team are also spending 50-60M on players. United is about to pay close to VVD's fee for Maguire. I don't know shit about Fred but he cost more than all of Mane/Salah/Fabinho/Ox/Alisson/Keita/Firmino. The team that just set a shit ton of PL records just paid 60M for a DEPTH player that isn't guaranteed to start for them. Shitty Everton just spent 50M on Richarlisson. Fuck. outta. here. "


[Edited on July 30, 2018 at 3:46 PM. Reason : lol]

7/30/2018 3:44:24 PM

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Gotta love Liverpool fans. Embrace the hate lads, it makes it much better when you win nothing for the umpteenth time.

7/30/2018 3:56:26 PM

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LeBron James with the Liverpool diss. Lmao. Someone should have prepped him to say pool at least.

7/30/2018 7:31:20 PM

aimorris
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always obsessed with Liverpool

7/30/2018 10:36:35 PM

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Morata's wife had twins. Morata's flew home and back within 48 hours. Both lost their place in the squad. One clearly showing more ambition and commitment. But hey anything to criticize Mou and United. Lmao. They hate us coz they ain't us.

8/1/2018 4:08:44 AM

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What are you on about mate

I don't know anything about your story but googling him mostly brings up stories about him trying to go back to Madrid. Seems very committed.

8/1/2018 7:19:11 AM

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Not surprised at wazza's awful stance on this. A week of paternity leave (apparently with complications for his wife based on his tweet) shows this guy isn't committed... insanity. Always rated him so I would love for him to leave United so I can root for him.

8/1/2018 4:45:01 PM

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Do you always rate 19 year olds who sulk, go AWOL, and not be professional? Typical Liverpool fan succumbing to the whims of the player. United is bigger than an individual. You love piling on the pressure for united but with that pressure comes different demands and the player better be ready to give everything. Martial has burned his bridge. It's hilarious to me that a pool fans who openly admits to only watching united twice has such a strong opinion about a player he rarely sees playing.

Funny that. The anti Mourinho circle jerk is so hilarious. Anything that shows him and united in a negative light you willove, unsurprising amount of bias.

[Edited on August 1, 2018 at 8:04 PM. Reason : F]

8/1/2018 8:02:45 PM

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I love this column bc it shows Mourinho and United in a negative light

https://www.theringer.com/soccer/2018/8/3/17646100/soccer-premier-league-preview-jose-mourinho-manchester-united

8/3/2018 12:35:56 PM

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you know I came into this thread not hating united but now I hate them because of wazza and his incessant whining about media fairness and anti-united hysteria.

8/3/2018 1:19:29 PM

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^yep

8/3/2018 1:55:23 PM

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Prediction: he loves all the hate

8/3/2018 2:33:57 PM

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hahahaha

8/3/2018 2:46:12 PM

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bunch of haters

8/3/2018 3:49:19 PM

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facts

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"Liverpool were the 'unluckiest' team in the Premier League last season while Manchester United were the 'luckiest', new research claims."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45087444

8/6/2018 8:01:06 PM

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Americans

Statistics

Media

Circle jerk

Bias

Hilarious

Haters


There now Wazza doesn't need to respond.

8/6/2018 8:21:38 PM

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8/7/2018 10:46:48 AM

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Aw clearly hit a nerve here. So obsessed with hating united. The genius article posted which I doubt anyone here actually read beyond the headline says:

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"For example: in Liverpool's 0-0 draw with Manchester United at Anfield on 14 October, the study concluded Jurgen Klopp's side should have been awarded a penalty in the 63rd minute, and the new simulated scoreline was a 1-0 victory for the home side."


That's exactly how football works, teams stop playing after being 1-0 down. Guess United were lucky to win the treble because statistically we shouldn't have beaten Arsenal in the semi's of the FA cup and scored two 90th min goals to beat Bayern in the final. Love how delusional pool fans are.



[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM. Reason : a]

[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM. Reason : a]

8/7/2018 11:23:26 AM

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That record transfer fee for a GK was nice while it lasted. Guess this means Chelsea have no excuses to not win the title now.

8/7/2018 1:22:56 PM

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^^I think your primary mistake is using a statistic/analysis like that as a judgment of past teams rather than a tool to assist future performance predictions. At the end of the day maybe United were "lucky" last season and during that treble, just like Liverpool were "lucky" to get a "favorable" champions league draw, but who cares? Unless you win something in a dominating fashion, luck is likely to have played a part. Especially in soccer when victory margins are so thin.

On the other hand if multiple statistics show a team over and under performed in certain luck based statistics (like, in football, fumble recovery rate or record in one score games) then your prediction for that team next season should maybe assume that will correct towards the mean. Now of course, luck doesn't definitely work that team by team, gamblers fallacy and such, but over large sample sizes it tends to work out.

[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 1:24 PM. Reason : My attempt at rational discussion ]

8/7/2018 1:24:03 PM

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"So obsessed with hating united."


For the record, and so it's as simple and easy for you to understand as possible, we don't hate United. We just don't like you (wazza) because you constantly try to start arguments and bitch about how unfair the world is to Man U. Shit gets old.



[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 2:26 PM. Reason : .]

8/7/2018 2:13:03 PM

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Great to know. Just goes to show you can't objectively talk about United or any other team for that matter. Not one positive thing said about United on this forum ever. Hilarious considering how complimentary I have actually been when looking at the current situation in football. You hate me because I don't go along with your BS narrative, perfectly fine with me.

So is United lucky or we simply rely on De Gea too much? Can't have it both ways. The Einsteins of TWW can't make up their mind. Actually that's not true. You all agree on one thing, United finished 2nd because of sheer luck and maybe a world class goalie. Can't be possible that they were actually good and better than the teams below them, nah absolutely not possible.

[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 3:05 PM. Reason : a]

8/7/2018 3:04:47 PM

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"Just goes to show you can't objectively talk about United or any other team for that matter."


THAT is an absolutely hilarious statement coming from you.

8/7/2018 3:19:28 PM

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I knew he would make no effort to respond to my post. Oh well, good times.

8/7/2018 4:27:33 PM

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As I said all I am seeing here is constant bashing about united. Rich that you don't think I am being rational in the face of constant hate.

It's always united is lucky that. United would be relegation fodder without De Gea. It's as if you have watched united win so much that you can't rationalize it any other way. It's the same kind of hate the Patriots get in the US since the ppl on here will understand an NFL reference much more.

You would think last year united finished 10th and not 2nd. Love the media narrative this pre season as well and the BS Jose third season myth. As I said, there is a lot of talk. I am happy for Liverpool to take the pressure but I highly doubt they get even half the BS we deal with every year if they fail to deliver a league title.

Go ahead, show me where I am being irrational. The fact that an article legitimately discussing luck as a factor in a teams league finish says all I need to know about the absurdity of the pool fans on here.

Plus I love arguing with you lot. Can't ever acknowledge when you're wrong and live in this little bubble. Kills my downtime at work. Thanks lads.

[Edited on August 7, 2018 at 5:06 PM. Reason : A]

8/7/2018 5:03:45 PM

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lol it's just too easy

8/7/2018 6:41:18 PM

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It's 100% irrational to act like luck or chance isn't a part of every single outcome of every sporting event ever.

8/7/2018 8:24:06 PM

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Let's get this shit going, I'm ready to hit the bar Friday afternoon.

8/8/2018 8:20:18 AM

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"Can't ever acknowledge when you're wrong and live in this little bubble."


8/8/2018 11:13:02 AM

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Hadn't been here in a while so I thought I'd cruise over and see what's going on.

Looks like you guys got this handled

8/8/2018 12:26:26 PM

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Let's get some official predictions up in this bitch.

Top 6 in order: City, LFC, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, United
Everybody else
Bottom 3 in order: Huddersfield, Bournemouth, Cardiff

8/8/2018 2:00:57 PM

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I actually would say the same order top 6 but then a different bottom 3.

City, LFC, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, United

Brighton, Cardiff, Newcastle


Daniel Levy sucks. It seriously blows my mind that we couldn't get a single piece of business done in 2+ months. I don't understand how he can see the team this close to the goal and not show the ambition needed to take the next step. It turned a whirlwind of excitement around the team and new stadium into fanbase that's eating itself and general feeling of negativity around all facets of the club.

8/9/2018 8:13:34 AM

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Here's a random guess:

Man City
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man United
Tottenham
Arsenal

11 teams

Southampton
Wolves
Cardiff

8/9/2018 8:40:48 AM

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I don't know why but I think Chelsea and Arsenal could fall out of the top 6.

8/9/2018 11:22:19 AM

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