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StTexan
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^ ok i set myself up for that haha. I mean they were like 3rd(or maybe 4th) in west til Lebron got hurt last year, and thats after starting crappy. With davis, Caruso, and a decent howard I feel at least 50. I’ll say they finish 4th in west.

9/5/2019 9:23:25 PM

TreeTwista10
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People like to shit on Lebron for some reason. Like you said, they were an above .500 team last year before the injuries started piling up. BARRING INJURY I see them as a top-4 team in the West and they could easily be the best team in their city if things go right. People just seem to forget about Lebron since he missed the Finals one single year.

9/5/2019 9:26:34 PM

StTexan
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Agreed to an extend. I think you might be overstating Lebron hate but overall accurate. I’d say clippers, houston, denver, lakers. Can easily see a battle for 3rd place in west between Denver, LA, and Portland. And honestly, maybe I am overestimating Houstons success.

[Edited on September 5, 2019 at 9:46 PM. Reason : Houston]

9/5/2019 9:45:26 PM

justinh524
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they were an average team last year, and traded away their entire team save James and Kuzma, essentially.

LeBron is still an offensive force, but i doubt he plays anywhere near 82 games next season. i'd say he plays ~65. I also question how well he will mesh with Davis. All in all, I don't see them winning more than 50 games. I would be a lot more bullish on them if AD would play center instead of PF. His unwillingness to log major minutes at the 5 means they won't be able to play their best players together as much, because i suspect it will be hard to play a center, AD, James and Kuzma all on the floor together for extended periods.

9/5/2019 9:47:17 PM

BJCaudill21
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Golden State is the best team in the west

9/5/2019 10:03:57 PM

StTexan
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When Klay comes back, maybe they are the team with the best record in the west...sure.

9/5/2019 10:05:19 PM

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KD is the soul of GSW in the past three years. When he leaves, they can't even beat any other CA teams.

9/6/2019 8:48:12 AM

UJustWait84
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Even though justin was 100% wrong about his delusional assertion that the Ws 'rushed' KD out before he was ready (see previous page for article he refused to acknowledge), I think he's correct about the Lakers not being able to gel as well as many assume. Nevertheless, he's ignoring the critical fact that Lebron is a total diva/control freak that's difficult to work with, which will ultimately hinder their success.

9/6/2019 12:19:16 PM

justinh524
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I thought that part about LeBron was common knowledge at this point

9/6/2019 12:27:31 PM

UJustWait84
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Oh right. Got you confused with TGL and other Lebron apologists. My bad. So hard to keep up with muh dubs haters.

BTW, I'm still predicting a ~6 seed for the Ws, and I think the Clipps are probably tops in the West.

9/6/2019 12:54:18 PM

TreeTwista10
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MJ was a control freak diva as well, he didn't have much success either

9/6/2019 1:16:17 PM

UJustWait84
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He never lost an NBA championship to anyone, let alone the same team 3/4 tries. Maybe he comes across as more of a winner and less of a diva than Lebron because he was more consistent.

9/6/2019 1:20:29 PM

TreeTwista10
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You seem very unbiased in your assessment of Lebron. 2017 must still sting.

9/6/2019 1:22:08 PM

UJustWait84
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Nah. Can't wait to not afford tickets to the Chase Center and spend an hour on BART/MUNI to get to it when it was an 8 min ride before for me.

9/6/2019 1:45:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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It would be interesting to see the twitter hot takes about Jordan's "flu game," or what kind of criticism he'd get for not even making the Finals in 95, etc if he had played in the social media era.

9/6/2019 1:50:46 PM

justinh524
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Quote :
"He never lost an NBA championship to anyone, let alone the same team 3/4 tries. "


I would argue that LBJ never had a teammate as good as Scottie Pippen, not even Wade. Also he may not have lost the championship to anyone, he did lose 3 straight times in the playoffs (twice in a row in the conference finals) to the Pistons.

On the other hand, LeBron hasn't "retired" from the NBA after his father's murder because of his own unpaid gambling debts. Yet.

9/6/2019 2:04:41 PM

thegoodlife3
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Jordan was also on the better team in the Finals the 6 times he got there

9/6/2019 5:47:51 PM

justinh524
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You can easily make the case that the second threepeat team core is the best in NBA history (even better than yer dubs), so yeah.

9/6/2019 7:21:37 PM

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Team USA is having nightmare in China. We have a lot of work to do in the future. NBA is more and more international, which is not very healthy for native players.

9/12/2019 11:28:49 AM

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