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thegoodlife3
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" You better believe Georgia and others are already boosting their suppression efforts "


they already are and I didn’t say they weren’t

1/7/2021 8:37:31 PM

rwoody
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"charisma is pretty damn important in presidential elections"


How important? Put a percentage on it

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"they already are and I didn’t say they weren’t"


So if Trump runs again how does Biden (or the Dem nom) win?

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"In regards to trump not being on ticket being disadvantage to repubs in GA, lol
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Gg disagreeing with both of us. Why do YOU think Perdue got fewer votes?

1/7/2021 8:41:55 PM

thegoodlife3
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who gives a fuck about percentages and why are you focused on them?

the margins are thin enough as it is and you’re a random dude on the internet asking another random dude on the internet about percentages that don’t matter in the least (other than your attempt at an online argument, so good job?)

1/7/2021 8:46:22 PM

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What? You started the argument? I acknowledged the racism and gave a percentage, you said I was wrong. If you think the one I listed is wrong you must have an idea of what its right

Me: Obama did some things wrong
You: no it was racism
Me; yes racism was primary at x% but these other factors mattered
You: no that % is wrong

[Edited on January 7, 2021 at 8:51 PM. Reason : E]

1/7/2021 8:49:49 PM

thegoodlife3
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racism was the biggest factor on the margins and activism over the last 4 years was enough to overcome that margin which is why we’re in the position that we’re currently in

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" Me: Obama did some things wrong
You: no it was racism "


this is awful framing and you know it

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" People love Obama, but his leadership led directly to Trump's election"


[Edited on January 7, 2021 at 8:58 PM. Reason : percentages be damned]

1/7/2021 8:54:39 PM

rwoody
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I said it was the biggest factor for the entire general election, you're only even saying it's the biggest factor on the margins so why did you come at me when I said 40-50%?? We basically agree?

Like basically my argument comes down to whether or not a presidents actions have an effect on who people vote for. I say they do!

[Edited on January 7, 2021 at 9:03 PM. Reason : E]

1/7/2021 8:58:15 PM

thegoodlife3
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and my argument is that enough racists were emboldened by a flagrantly racist candidate to put said candidate over the edge, entirely as reaction to the first Black president

the people who put Trump over the edge could give two fucks about Obama’s actions, other than being black

[Edited on January 7, 2021 at 9:08 PM. Reason : .]

1/7/2021 9:06:51 PM

rwoody
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I've seen that 10-15% of Trump voter previously voted for Obama. Seems like Clinton couldn't have won by keeping them in the tent. If Hilary matches Obamas vote count in she wins Iowa, PA, wisc and much.

1/7/2021 9:22:37 PM

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"I mean when people say that Trump was elected bc of racism, they mean the illegal immigration issue not Obama himself."


This statement makes me question whether you know any racists, because this is the opposite of my experience. I think that when a black family took up residence in the East Wing of the White House, it flipped a switch in a lot of white Americans' heads that still hasn't flipped back; I think that Donald Trump's racist incitement over the past five years has only worsened this effect.

My guess is that, while a significant portion of Obama voters may have voted for Trump due to economic grievances or a desire to seek a leadership change in Washington, D.C., Donald Trump's racism led to a large number of both racists and anti-racists turning out to vote who would have otherwise stayed home on election day, particularly in 2020.

[Edited on January 8, 2021 at 9:06 AM. Reason : ]

1/8/2021 9:04:58 AM

rwoody
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"This statement makes me question whether you know any racists,"


Haha well I hope you are right about that blind spot! I am certain I know people who are, I guess, on the spectrum, but I didn't talk with them about that aspect. Most conservatives I know focused on illegal immigration. I'm fully willing to say I may be wrong about the statement and I quoted and I def understand that Obamas race was a good chunk. But while Trump came to political fame with the birther stuff, his campaign was focused on immigration.

Long story short i agree with most of your post but think it's clear that immigration is, at least, the racist cudgel that Trump used to whip up his crowd and announce himself. I'll concede may not have worked as well with a white Democrat in office.

1/8/2021 10:14:11 AM

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https://www.axios.com/manchin-stimulus-checks-senate-biden-9a22ee1d-b2cc-4c2f-8a24-836a66725beb.html

We should go ahead and subtitle Biden's Administration 'Fucked By Joe Manchin'.

1/8/2021 2:41:43 PM

rwoody
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"NEW: @JoeBiden calls for setting aside deficit concerns to invest trillions of dollars in the ailing US economy.

@BernieSanders, likely incoming Senate Budget chair: “The president-elect is exactly right that this is not the time for austerity politics.”

https://t.co/oooXwAKQ3K"


+1

1/10/2021 8:58:04 AM

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Waking up this morning and seeing an article in my news feed titled “what’s in Biden’s 1.9 trillion emergency coronavirus plan” was a surprisingly good feeling. I didn’t read it, don’t know if I even agree with everything in the plan, but just the simple fact that there is actually a plan is such a huge difference and a credible move back towards normalcy

1/15/2021 11:21:19 AM

rwoody
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"Scoop: Biden’s team denies acting Defense Sec Christopher Miller’s request for transition space at the Pentagon after he leaves office tomorrow, a courtesy normally extended at the Defense Dept, @nwadhams reports

https://t.co/B1JOPhXXUd"


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1/19/2021 10:24:17 PM

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Replaced the Diet Coke button on the Resolute Desk with a Tab button.

-1

1/21/2021 4:31:27 PM

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