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bdmazur
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I'm turning this shit off

12/31/2018 10:22:35 PM

cptinsano
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"Hopefully, at least this can get hux the fuck outta here

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He's a lifer. NC State in his veins.

12/31/2018 10:22:59 PM

justinh524
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"IDGAF about his pro career."


Wow you're the selfish one.

12/31/2018 10:23:25 PM

BJCaudill21
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Finley is such a pussy

12/31/2018 10:28:43 PM

justinh524
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I should be a damn coach
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"justinh524 (7:46) : If they don't blitz we're gonna get demolished"

12/31/2018 10:30:46 PM

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"Announcer is so waiting for Williams to bust a big run so he can fill his mouth with SECock."


Nailed it. 93-yard run for the 2nd longest in Gator Bowl history.

12/31/2018 10:32:31 PM

cptinsano
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At least we didn't hire Mack Brown.

12/31/2018 10:33:36 PM

TreeTwista10
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Cotchery?

12/31/2018 10:36:35 PM

cptinsano
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Wow. What a Fuck You summary of Finley's career.

12/31/2018 10:37:18 PM

justinh524
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What? What else are they supposed to say?

12/31/2018 10:38:38 PM

KeB
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"Wow you're the selfish one."


because I want a player who is completely healthy to participate with the rest of his team in a game just as he signed up to do....got it....

I really wish the pro scouts will look at these players as not being team players when they sit out these games.

like I said what's the difference between this game and sitting out any regular-season game after Clemson. Was his pro career not important to him then? Why all of a sudden is it okay to sit out when it's a bowl game? 3 years ago no one sat out and now all of a sudden it's okay

[Edited on December 31, 2018 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ...]

12/31/2018 10:42:33 PM

justinh524
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Well, for one, Pratt wasn't completely healthy.

12/31/2018 10:44:10 PM

JesusHChrist
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Because they don't get paid and they don't owe you shit

12/31/2018 10:48:30 PM

BJCaudill21
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I'd have no problem if they sat out after like, wake.. Before that we could maybe have still played in a relevant game

12/31/2018 10:49:56 PM

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it's not like he's sitting out the ACC championship or anything important

no players will ever just choose to sit out a CFP game, just the bowl games that don't really mean much

[Edited on December 31, 2018 at 10:58 PM. Reason : .]

12/31/2018 10:57:29 PM

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"because I want a player who is completely healthy to participate with the rest of his team in a game just as he signed up to do....got it....
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LOL I thought these takes were just hypothetical fans dreamed up by Bowl Executives.

12/31/2018 11:01:59 PM

JesusHChrist
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Not playing the bowl game is disrespectful to the troops

12/31/2018 11:15:55 PM

dtownral
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We need player to play in bowl games so we can have good soldiers, they are who make America strong

12/31/2018 11:28:18 PM

aaronburro
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I dont begrudge a player looking after his financial future, but the NCAA is probably going to end up cracking down on players sitting out bowl games. Players sitting out is an explicit signal to fans that these lucrative games don't matter. If fans are getting that signal, they'll begin to stop supporting the bowls, and the NCAA and its media partners will lose a stupid amount of money.

Where it's going to really hurt is the top-tier, non-CFP bowls. The teams in those games have significant levels of NFL talent, and you could run into a situation where the Rose Bowl is a battle of the 2nd and 3rd stringers of top 10 teams. Who is gonna get excited over that?

12/31/2018 11:30:05 PM

aaronburro
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Also, it was nice to see our 1st stringers get curb-stomped by an SEC team's 3rd stringers.

12/31/2018 11:31:28 PM

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What a perfect end to finleys overrated career

12/31/2018 11:32:11 PM

JesusHChrist
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"NCAA is probably going to end up cracking down on players sitting out bowl games"


How's the NCAA going to go about doing this? By withholding the wages the players don't make? By revoking the scholarships of players already headed to the NFL. By taking punitive measures against underclassmen?

I would actually love to see the NCAA overplay their hand on this, if only because it would accelerate the entire house of cards of obscene profits made off of the back of unpaid workers come crashing down.

12/31/2018 11:47:26 PM

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^^^^what the hell do you think they’ll do? These guys have one future and it has nothing to do with the ncaa

[Edited on December 31, 2018 at 11:48 PM. Reason : ^]

12/31/2018 11:48:24 PM

BJCaudill21
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I don't see what the ncaa could do to somebody leaving in a few months.. I'm sure they'll try because they act like a bunch of old curmudgeons

12/31/2018 11:49:21 PM

ViolentMAW
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I'm not sure who got slayed harder. Sauron or Finley's NFL draft stock. Hooooo

1/1/2019 12:13:57 AM

PaulISdead
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Maybe they can withhold access to the fancy dining halls that paying students can't use

1/1/2019 12:19:01 AM

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"you could run into a situation where the Rose Bowl is a battle of the 2nd and 3rd stringers of top 10 teams"


yeah, because the NFL draft is 80 rounds long

1/1/2019 12:34:42 AM

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[Edited on January 1, 2019 at 1:22 AM. Reason : .]

1/1/2019 1:03:54 AM

marko
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HAY GUISE WHAT’S GOING ON ON INSIDE CAROLINA?!!!

1/1/2019 1:44:16 AM

nacstate
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I didn't watch the game, but ZERO third down conversions? Jesus.

1/1/2019 2:21:39 AM

Novicane
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"Hopefully, at least this can get hux the fuck outta here"


I know the offense is what it was last night with Drink/Ledford gone but WTF with the Defense. there needs to be a change in philosophy.

1/1/2019 9:46:55 AM

justinh524
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"The game drew 38,206, the bowl's smallest crowd since 1952."


LOL. But NC State fans are the best fans in the conference!!!

1/1/2019 11:07:49 AM

Brass Monkey
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What about Texas A&M? They have at least double the fan support we do, and the two sides looked about the same to me in terms of number of fans.

1/1/2019 1:58:58 PM

justinh524
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Do Texas a&m fans constantly harp about how great their fans are and that they should get better bowls because they travel so well?

1/1/2019 2:26:53 PM

wolfpack2105
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Atleast we arent so "proud" of our own fanbase we gave ourselves a nickname thats plastered on the stadium

1/1/2019 2:50:15 PM

synapse
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Justin derives pleasure out of the weirdest shit.

1/1/2019 3:06:22 PM

tower
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our fanbase, especially the traveling fanbase, probably holds an undeserved reputation for being pretty good when its kind of mediocre

but our bigger problem is that we just spark very little national interest outside of the fanbase. our bowls tend to get lower ratings (relative) and no one wants to watch one of our games. the only thing we really had for a bit there was the Thursday night affairs against FSU, but they kinda suck now and doeren has us as this weird exaggerated version of wisconsin where we get smacked down every time we play someone good and just rack up wins against nobodies

1/1/2019 3:12:03 PM

justinh524
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Our fans suck. The student sections at home football games NEVER fill up and are 3/4 empty in the 2nd half of every game, no matter the opponent. Paid fans are no better, because they won't give up their beloved pass outs and that halftime beer that they can't live without. We can't even sell out a non conference basketball game against a top 10 opponent. We are actually fairly good at both revenue sports now and fans are for the most part indifferent. And yet all you see online are how many State fans think they are the best fans in the nation. It's ridiculous and it drives me fucking nuts.

[Edited on January 1, 2019 at 3:24 PM. Reason : None of this is pleasurable for me.]

1/1/2019 3:23:30 PM

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"Do Texas a&m fans constantly harp about how great their fans are and that they should get better bowls because they travel so well?
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Yeah probably.

But on the whole point - yeah...we like to say we have a great fan base and travel well and the truth is that we aren’t especially great at that.

1/1/2019 4:06:42 PM

tower
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well we still have fans, which not every school can say, but yeah it turns out when you have a long dull period where none of the teams are very good you lose a whole generation of fans

keatts hopefully is starting to change that

1/1/2019 5:04:19 PM

justinh524
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Our fans have gotten worse in the last 10 years. Especially in football. And our football team hasn't ever been good and the last two years have been as good as they have been in a long time.

[Edited on January 1, 2019 at 5:16 PM. Reason : But our fans are dumb and like to hate coaches (and their teams) that don't have an in your face attitude]

1/1/2019 5:16:01 PM

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"And yet all you see online are how many State fans think they are the best fans in the nation."


wut

1/1/2019 5:16:22 PM

justinh524
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It's fucking true man.

[Edited on January 1, 2019 at 5:18 PM. Reason : I might be exaggerating a little. But we still think we're way better than we really are]

1/1/2019 5:17:50 PM

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I think we're the best overall fans in the state when it comes to all sports as a whole. But I literally don't think I've ever heard any State fans claim being the best fans in the nation. Maybe you spend a lot more time on PackPride than I do or something.

1/1/2019 5:21:05 PM

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"Where it's going to really hurt is the top-tier, non-CFP bowls. The teams in those games have significant levels of NFL talent, and you could run into a situation where the Rose Bowl is a battle of the 2nd and 3rd stringers of top 10 teams. Who is gonna get excited over that?"


There's not that much real NFL talent.

Think the argument can be settled that the bowls past the CFP have become more and more the NIT really - N.C. State making the Gator Bowl when I was in college vs. Notre Dame was a much larger deal than them making it there this year - and are incredibly meaningless outside of it's good for ESPN programming, good for coaches' bonus checks, good for an extra TV game, and good for 1 month of extra practice training next year's football team (that alongside the bonus check is the only reason I think coaches go for this system). The bowl season is not for the players and outside of a few special cases, it's not really for the fans either. Virginia Tech's actions off the field this fall for example were shambolic and yet it was all designed to make a completely meaningless bowl game.

Still, it's individualistic of a player to skip the game. The player has his right to do so and choose to focus on his future, but he's choosing to put himself ahead of his teammates. And football is a game that cannot exist without the team dynamic. A QB or RB can't operate functionally without an offensive line. It's not pro basketball which revels in being an individual sport but you're required by the rules to stick 4 other guys on the floor.

Probably the best solution to the problem is there's a significant decline in the number of bowl games, but we know that's not going to happen.

[Edited on January 3, 2019 at 12:28 PM. Reason : /]

1/3/2019 12:23:55 PM

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"N.C. State making the Gator Bowl when I was in college vs. Notre Dame was a much larger deal than them making it there this year"


i've thought about this...and is this because that season was so historic for State with the 9-0 start, 10 wins for the first time ever, playing a power like ND, being ranked pretty highly? or have bowls really been diminished that much? i mean, compared to this year...yeah we were 9-3, but had no great wins, no historic start to the season, only ranked pretty briefly.

1/3/2019 1:16:50 PM

justinh524
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Oh man, you even got a shot in at the NBA in that hot take. Good job.

1/3/2019 1:17:29 PM

Flyin Ryan
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^^ The Gator at the time was the ACC #2 pick. They used to be ahead of the Peach.

Plus, playing Notre Dame was a big deal because they were Notre Dame.

[Edited on January 3, 2019 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

1/3/2019 2:01:40 PM

justinh524
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The gator bowl is no less prestigious now than it was then (It's always been a meaningless bowl game, just like every other one not involving top 10 teams.) If anything, the ACC was a much, much weaker conference football-wise in 2002. FSU had already begun it's decline under Bobby Bowden and there was no real nationally relevant team in the conference.

1/3/2019 2:50:16 PM

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I think the playoff may take a little something away from the other bowls. Or maybe not, I can’t really quantify that at all. Just sorta a feeling. But I don’t think players sitting out really diminishes them significantly.

1/3/2019 3:07:17 PM

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