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"Nobody says he’s better than he used to be. But he’s definitely better than, say, Nathan Peterman who has been given multiple chances. "


But here is where, and why, I doubt that Kaep actually wants to play football.

You're a NFL GM. You have 2 options for a back-up QB:
Kaep has been reported to have asked for $20m/season to play in the NFL/AFL.
Peterman who has made $1.2m over 3 seasons in the league and is making $408k this season.

That's an absolute no-brainer. Kaep isn't worth that much money, and frankly I think he knows that. If he really wanted to get into the league, he'd take a one-year deal to prove he can still ball out, instead he makes unrealistic demands. That would make Kaep one of the top 15 paid QBs in the NFL, and NO ONE is paying that.

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"But...Taysom Hill? Dude has more receptions than career completions. He’s not a viable QB option."


This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. While I've seen him be a gadget and special teams player and I have no clue on his NFL upside, who knows what his upside is at this point, he had a decent game at QB for the Packers his first year in the league(2 passing TDs and 1 rushing TD). Kaep's agent reportedly reached out to the Saints and they didn't call him back, as they shouldn't. With Brees coming back, Bridgewater being a high-paid back-up, and Hill being on the roster and loved by the coach, there is no reason to sign a guy like Kaep.

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"He doesn’t even have to be black balled anymore because it’s been so long that teams can rightfully claim that he’s not in playing shape and that there are younger, higher ceiling guys available."


We agree here. I think Kaep was black-balled his first year, but after that, I think it's been about him not wanting to play and instead his PR/agents spinning that he's still being black-balled. Dude wanted starter money to consider joining a NFL team, that's just silly and tells me he didn't want to get back into football, esp when you partner that with his Nike deal.

9/19/2019 4:03:31 PM

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"Kaep has been reported to have asked for $20m/season to play in the NFL"


this is not true

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"This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. While I've seen him be a gadget and special teams player and I have no clue on his NFL upside, who knows what his upside is at this point"


can’t be too high if they play him on special teams. he’s also 29 years old.

[Edited on September 19, 2019 at 4:20 PM. Reason : props to Bomani Jones for just bringing up those Hill points on High Noon]

9/19/2019 4:07:38 PM

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"This is the dude that Sean Payton has compared to Steve Young and has said he's been grooming him for the future after Brees. "


If he was Steve Young he’d be the starter, not Bridgewater. If he was Steve Young, he wouldn’t be a special teams player. He’s not Steve Young. I don’t really care what Sean Payton said.

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"With Brees coming back, Bridgewater being a high-paid back-up, and Hill being on the roster and loved by the coach, there is no reason to sign a guy like Kaep. "


I agree and I think I said that in my first post. The Saints don’t have a need for him. It doesn’t sound like the Panthers think Cam will be out long (although I’m cool with sitting him as long as possible to get him healthy), so Kaep probably isn’t a viable option if the Panthers expect Cam to be back in a couple weeks - I don’t even think Cam is officially out for this week. The Jets probably have the strongest case to sign Kaep...Darnold is out for an undefined length of time, Trevor Siemian then got hurt so they’re on QB #3 and just signed some dude named David Fales...a 6th round pick in 2014.

[Edited on September 19, 2019 at 4:36 PM. Reason : A]

9/19/2019 4:27:12 PM

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That is exactly the number quoted when the AAF pursued him. In 2017 he said he'd sign for $10m but needed a chance to start. If you have a starting QB, do you really want Kaep coming in demanding a chance to start? Now not only do you need a specific offense that tailors to Kaep's playing style, have a need at QB without an established starter, but you need to also be willing to make him the highest paid back-up in the league.

9/20/2019 9:57:17 AM

thegoodlife3
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you said $20 million a year to play in the NFL

9/20/2019 10:59:22 AM

TreeTwista10
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nothing surprising, but Cam officially ruled out for Sunday

9/20/2019 4:53:07 PM

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i love when i miss TDs because the stupid tv station is at a commercial

9/22/2019 4:38:44 PM

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Lol yes that was weird. "BIG THIRD DOWN COMING UP..." *cuts to commercial*

*commercial ends* "...what a great throw for a touchdown there to tie the game. We'll be back after this. *goes to commercial*

9/22/2019 5:27:50 PM

tower
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this team sucks ass

allen better not play this well all year or get injured or something so we can get a new coach

9/22/2019 5:43:53 PM

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Donte Jackson is horrible at football. He is fast though, so Ron will keep playing him

9/22/2019 6:00:32 PM

thegoodlife3
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Christian McCaffrey is very good at football

9/22/2019 6:10:36 PM

DROD900
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^^LOL dammit

9/22/2019 6:11:16 PM

tower
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like this isnt funny we're going to get carried to 7-9 by a backup qb and ron will get a 10 year extension

9/22/2019 6:20:39 PM

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this team sucks ass

9/22/2019 6:23:02 PM

thegoodlife3
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wild that a healthy QB makes all the difference in the world

9/22/2019 6:37:01 PM

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Donte Jackson is horrible at football

9/22/2019 6:47:01 PM

DROD900
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I know, I reverse psychology'd him obviously

9/22/2019 7:43:06 PM

ClassicMixup
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Was Newton on the sideline? I only caught part of the game

9/22/2019 8:16:12 PM

dmspack
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I’m assuming he didn’t travel with the team. Injured players rarely do, right?

9/22/2019 8:22:53 PM

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yeah, he stayed in Charlotte

9/22/2019 8:34:05 PM

roddy
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Newton was shopping for his next post game lose outfit during the game

9/23/2019 8:22:36 AM

cptinsano
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^ HAHAHA because he wears funny outfits

9/23/2019 8:39:43 AM

Wolfey
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So does anyone think Cam will be 'injured' until Allen loses a game?

9/23/2019 12:41:25 PM

thegoodlife3
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no, because he is legitimately hurt and needs time to recover, regardless of wins and losses

especially after it looks like he was rushed back after injuring his foot in the preseason

9/23/2019 12:49:52 PM

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^ correct.

9/23/2019 12:51:01 PM

Wolfey
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I want Cam back but if he isn't mobile that limits his skill set and what made him a league MVP.

9/23/2019 12:59:40 PM

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He's already ruled out for the Houston game this weekend

9/23/2019 1:13:44 PM

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Lisfranc

9/24/2019 10:39:54 AM

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GNSP

9/24/2019 10:41:26 AM

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Cam is the football version of Kemba

9/24/2019 10:43:18 AM

Wolfey
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So if no Surgery is necessary I would think earliest you would want to bring him back is at San Fran after the Bye.

Three more games with Kyle Allen

@Houston - They have a good offense and a pass rush that can take over games their secondary has been suspect.

Jacksonville - They have a backup in as well, formidable defense can't go 0-3 at home

Tampa in London - With a healthy Cam probably would have won that game. Still winnable

If you go 2-1 would be sitting good with a chance at division. Go 1-2 still would have hope for season. Go 0-3 chance at winning season is over send Cam to IR get a good draft pick.

9/24/2019 11:00:12 AM

TreeTwista10
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This is some really good stuff

9/26/2019 10:56:18 PM

tower
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Did Kyle Allen go to the combine? He's listed at 6'3 but if I had to guess I'd say he's 6'1

[Edited on September 29, 2019 at 2:04 PM. Reason : maybe he just has super small hands]

9/29/2019 1:46:11 PM

tower
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Eric Reid cannot tackle

9/29/2019 2:07:40 PM

rayef3rw
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^^ don't think so

Yeah, Reid hasn't looked great so far, that sloppy tackle and another miss earlier. Hopefully he'll figure things out today soon

9/29/2019 2:13:47 PM

GoldieO
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Defensive line finally getting pressure today. Now if only Allen could hold onto the ball!

9/29/2019 2:15:33 PM

tower
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Allen is really weird to judge tbh. His arm talent is elite starter level, and he seems to have a decent feel for the game, but he just seems small and the fumble issue is a big problem. Really hope he doesnt end up just good enough for us to commit to (if Cam is more injured that we thought or w/e) but not good enough to be great.

9/29/2019 2:16:28 PM

thegoodlife3
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welp

I think we now know how opposing defenses will attack us until Cam gets healthy

9/29/2019 2:53:07 PM

GoldieO
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Allen with the hat trick. Jesus.

9/29/2019 2:53:52 PM

tower
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Yeah, and every DE is going to be going for that now as long as he's playing

9/29/2019 2:54:27 PM

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He's basically jake delhomme, but with fumbles instead of INTs. I could live with him, but he won't win us games on his own

9/29/2019 2:59:32 PM

tower
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I mean, he's played pretty well again today minus the fact that if you touch him he drops the ball

9/29/2019 3:20:15 PM

tower
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No idea where they found this kicker but hes legit

9/29/2019 3:27:45 PM

TreeTwista10
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he played at Virginia Tech but had some accuracy issues in college

9/29/2019 3:39:48 PM

rayef3rw
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I rescind my Eric Reid comments, that fumble recovery was killer.

But yeah, Allen's ball security issues are concerning

9/29/2019 3:53:55 PM

GoldieO
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Vernon Butler did something finally!

9/29/2019 3:55:05 PM

tower
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they cant just run 3x here

[Edited on September 29, 2019 at 3:57 PM. Reason : rollout for a short pass out of bounds is bad too]

9/29/2019 3:55:21 PM

GoldieO
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Allen the Magician!

9/29/2019 3:58:31 PM

StingrayRush
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Ok, Delhomme never would’ve pulled that off

9/29/2019 4:02:31 PM

tower
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He doesnt play like Delhomme at all. I actually cant think of a comparison that makes sense.

9/29/2019 4:04:22 PM

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