mellocj All American 1872 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.wral.com/nc-state-professor-suspended-after-calling-women-useless-during-lecture/18673085/https://www.wral.com/nc-state-professor-suspended-after-calling-women-useless-during-lecture/18673085/
Dr. E. David Davis, who teaches physics
discuss 10/2/2019 11:18:00 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9817 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck man, in the humanities his career would be toast. It’s all gonna come down to how valuable he is to the school / grant funding he brings in, etc. unfortunately. Granted, it may have been a joke but super inappropriate and he should have known better and at least apologized when he realized it offended people but he seemed to just double down. 10/2/2019 11:34:08 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8561 Posts user info edit post |
Edviar David Davis 10/2/2019 11:54:09 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
omg, who let these fucking UNC students into NC State?
Based of the story told by Myra (who is wearing glasses with no prescription, btw) I'm on the professor's in so much as the students should chill the fuck out. 10/3/2019 9:18:59 AM |
rjrumfel All American 22921 Posts user info edit post |
Man things have changed since '00. 10/3/2019 10:25:17 AM |
utowncha All American 844 Posts user info edit post |
who doesnt like a good useless women joke 10/3/2019 10:35:55 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 38906 Posts user info edit post |
^^ howso? 10/3/2019 11:18:21 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41737 Posts user info edit post |
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darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11605 Posts user info edit post |
He's one of 6 PIs on a long running grant that brings in around $700,000 per year. He's not the lead. It looks to be funding for a pretty big multi-scientist lab.
Other than that, he's had a non-funded proposal he submitted in late 2017 and a proposal pending since June of last year, but it's only for ~$90,000.
So he's not a cash cow for the university. 10/3/2019 12:16:46 PM |
synapse play so hard 60908 Posts user info edit post |
where's the video? 10/3/2019 12:45:21 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27167 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Man things have changed since '00" |
I hear they're even letting the coloreds and the gays on campus these days!10/3/2019 1:03:55 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, he shouldn't have said that. Let's clarify that right out of the gate.
But if he had said men are useless after two guys didn't answer the question, then I'm sure the women who posted wouldn't have been as outraged. When I'm considering "jokes" and what to do and how to manage the situation, I try to evaluate if the alternative would have happened would I still have been outraged.
I don't think the professor is a misogynist. I mean, he definitely has some biases about women and likely wouldn't have said that about the guys, but I don't see this as fireable on discrimination grounds. 10/3/2019 1:16:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27167 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Based of the story told by Myra (who is wearing glasses with no prescription, btw) I'm on the professor's in so much as the students should chill the fuck out." |
It's pretty amazing that you can tell that about her glasses from a video on the internet. You have a special talent.10/3/2019 1:24:08 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 38906 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When I'm considering "jokes" and what to do and how to manage the situation, I try to evaluate if the alternative would have happened would I still have been outraged. " |
this is absurd since it implies that all aggrieved parties are equal when that very obviously isn’t the case
it’s also a way to absolve the person in power
dude also wasn’t on stage at a club so don’t treat his “joke” like he was
[Edited on October 3, 2019 at 1:40 PM. Reason : .]10/3/2019 1:37:43 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72744 Posts user info edit post |
BOY WILL BE BOYS, AMIRITE? 10/3/2019 1:52:15 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11605 Posts user info edit post |
Another missing bit of context here is that the Physics Department has a reputation for this sort of thing. 10/3/2019 2:43:51 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's pretty amazing that you can tell that about her glasses from a video on the internet. You have a special talent." |
No, I don't. It's obvi.
Quote : | "I mean, he shouldn't have said that. Let's clarify that right out of the gate." |
They should've done the assignment. Go back to preschool if you want to be coddled. Or as i said earlier, go to UNC.
Quote : | "this is absurd since it implies that all aggrieved parties are equal when that very obviously isn’t the case" |
They were useless. He just picked the wrong trait to describe them. If he had just said, "Both of the humans I've called on are useless, he'd be fine"10/3/2019 2:57:03 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43381 Posts user info edit post |
In his defense he's probably not used to speaking to women. 10/3/2019 3:32:46 PM |
moron All American 33712 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I mean, he shouldn't have said that. Let's clarify that right out of the gate.
But if he had said men are useless after two guys didn't answer the question, then I'm sure the women who posted wouldn't have been as outraged. When I'm considering "jokes" and what to do and how to manage the situation, I try to evaluate if the alternative would have happened would I still have been outraged.
I don't think the professor is a misogynist. I mean, he definitely has some biases about women and likely wouldn't have said that about the guys, but I don't see this as fireable on discrimination grounds. " |
This is overly simplistic. If this is a physics class there’s a problem with women in the sciences in our country. It’s partially because the atmosphere is often misogynistic. Even very minimal misogyny over time builds up.
There’s other scenarios where maybe these comments wouldn’t be such a big deal, but this isn’t one of them.
https://blogs.worldbank.org/opendata/there-are-fewer-female-male-stem-graduates-107-114-economies
This shows too. When you look at the recent videos from the ISRO control room compared to NASA, there’s far more gender diversity.10/3/2019 7:56:59 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3770 Posts user info edit post |
The important thing to remember is this happened in physics, so that means in an alternate universe he also didn't say that 10/3/2019 8:51:11 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22921 Posts user info edit post |
In '00 this wouldn't have made the headlines. 10/3/2019 10:01:28 PM |
synapse play so hard 60908 Posts user info edit post |
I fell like someone already made that point... 10/3/2019 10:07:49 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Imagine having a phd in physics and being this dumb. 10/3/2019 10:24:47 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42526 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who is wearing glasses with no prescription, btw" |
How can you tell?
What bearing does that have on what the prof said or her narrative?10/4/2019 8:13:46 AM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
she's a stupid dummy, thats what 10/4/2019 8:52:15 AM |
utowncha All American 844 Posts user info edit post |
all that matters is who he voted for 10/4/2019 9:09:02 AM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
I think what really ground my gears with this story is the mischaracterization that he said all women are useless. 10/4/2019 9:24:37 AM |
afripino All American 11296 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "where's the video?" |
10/4/2019 9:52:33 AM |
afripino All American 11296 Posts user info edit post |
nvm...clicked the link. there's a snippet. 10/4/2019 10:55:37 AM |
Kickstand All American 11376 Posts user info edit post |
This guy apparently dislikes females with nose rings. 10/4/2019 12:49:32 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But if he had said men are useless after two guys didn't answer the question, then I'm sure the women who posted wouldn't have been as outraged." |
I feel like a more apt comparison would be if a female professor said that the men in her class were useless.10/4/2019 12:59:36 PM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41737 Posts user info edit post |
ight ima head out 10/4/2019 1:18:10 PM |