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tower
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Hockman isn't an improvement, it just looks better because he does normal QB things

He can sort of move the ball down the field but once he gets in the red zone its over. Two field goals is worse than one touchdown

10/11/2019 11:48:33 AM

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"Hockman isn't an improvement, it just looks better because he does normal QB things"



Normal QB things = improvement?

Hockman wasn't bad at all IMO. He stayed poised despite playing behind a patchwork OL going up against a DL with multiple guys projected to be early NFL draft picks. He made a few bad throws -- particularly the 3rd down throw in the endzone that should have been an INT -- but he did far more good than bad. I'll take that.

That said, Leary seems to have a much higher ceiling. I hope he gets more series next game.

10/11/2019 12:33:19 PM

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"They never do. They should at least put towels on seats or something."


Pretty sure they put it on the season tickets, or at least they have in the past. It was also on all their social media accounts recently.

10/11/2019 1:30:28 PM

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"I and many others got home well after midnight, fuck off with that bullshit."


Oh poor you.

10/11/2019 2:10:56 PM

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Its always the same cycle

1. I point out a pattern than no one else has noticed
2. I get flamed and called earl for having a unique pov
3. Events pile up until my original pov becomes obvious to more and more people
4. The pattern I pointed out in (1) becomes the prevailing point of view
5. No one bothers to apologize for flaming me or even acknowledge that I was right all along to point this out before no one else cared.

Repeat over and over

10/11/2019 3:24:29 PM

rwoody
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Lol

10/11/2019 3:51:14 PM

marko
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NEVAH LOST

10/11/2019 3:51:53 PM

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"1. I point out a pattern than no one else has noticed
2. I get flamed and called earl for having a unique pov
3. Events pile up until my original pov becomes obvious to more and more people
4. The pattern I pointed out in (1) becomes the prevailing point of view
5. No one bothers to apologize for flaming me or even acknowledge that I was right all along to point this out before no one else cared"


yo, whatchu got for patterns where I can make a bazillion dollars? PM deets

#inonthegroundfloor

10/11/2019 4:17:20 PM

dmspack
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What is e man even talking about?

10/11/2019 5:38:35 PM

Kickstand
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Where is Ian (Pee n See) Dunne when you need him?

https://www.wral.com/silver-alert-durham-man-goes-missing-after-attending-nc-state-football-game/18690997/

10/11/2019 7:39:17 PM

marko
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Last win of the year.

10/12/2019 6:56:33 PM

dmspack
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Nah. We still play GT

10/12/2019 8:04:06 PM

rwoody
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DD complimented the crowd

10/14/2019 1:09:29 PM

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"Last win of the year. "


Not sure if you're just super down on our team or if you don't realize how awful the ACC is(outside of Clemson) this season?

BC is awful and just lost their starting QB.
Wake and UL have good offense and NOTHING on defense.
UNC is up and down but overall solid.
GT is awful.
Clemson gon' murder us.

10/14/2019 1:34:04 PM

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^right. I think the realistic scenario is we finish 6-6 or 7-5. 8 wins would be a real stretch given the offense’s limitations. But finding 2-3 more wins on the schedule is perfectly reasonable.

10/14/2019 1:42:33 PM

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S&P gives us a 35% chance to finish 6-6 or worse, 33% chance to go 7-5, and 33% chance to we go 8-5 or better.



Compared to the beginning of the year (25% at 6-6 or worse, 26% at 7-5, 25% at 8-4, 25% at 9-3 or better), we're still on target for a good year.

[Edited on October 14, 2019 at 3:21 PM. Reason : Added beginning of year projections]

10/14/2019 3:01:17 PM

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could some math dude explain why the difference between a 6 win and an 8 win season is only 2%? That has to be within the margin of error, correct?

10/14/2019 7:44:52 PM

horosho
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game of inches

10/14/2019 8:00:45 PM

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https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=5511&s=308075

Massey Ratings gives us 50% odds or better at four more wins

10/14/2019 9:57:29 PM

rwoody
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So basically the same thing as above

10/14/2019 11:22:16 PM

dmspack
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"could some math dude explain why the difference between a 6 win and an 8 win season is only 2%? That has to be within the margin of error, correct?"


i'm no math dude...but i think it's just because so many of our games are toss ups, essentially 50/50. if we had 6 games remaining against 6 really good opponents the percentages would be far different. but SP+ is essentially saying we have 4 toss up games remaining (BC, UL, UNC we're all slight favorites and vs WF we'd be slight underdogs) and then it gives us a higher likelihood of winning the GT game and then of course losing to Clemson. so it wouldn't be statistically unrealistic for us to win 3 of those 4 toss up games...but because they're such toss up games, it wouldn't be unrealistic for us to lose 3 of those 4 either.

10/15/2019 6:45:28 AM

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Given our track record in Road Games even against a 2nd string QB its no gimme.

10/15/2019 9:09:07 AM

LudaChris
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No game is a gimme given our youth, injuries, and issues on offense.

I do think our injuries on offense(RT, RB1, RB2, TE2, WR2) are part of why our offense is struggling, not just on the QB.

Outside of Clemson, there isn't a game on our schedule that I think we can't win.
Outside of GT, there isn't a game on our schedule I feel confident we're going to win.

10/15/2019 10:48:39 AM

rwoody
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Cj Riley was wr3 at best. Emezie and Thomas were our best returning receivers

What rb2 inury do you mean? Is knight hurt?

Also our OT2 or 3 is out for year too

And autentrieth was an OR at the 1, not a 2

[Edited on October 15, 2019 at 10:56 AM. Reason : E]

10/15/2019 10:54:35 AM

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^

CJ Riley was our starter outside at WR and I tend to consider the slot the 3rd WR, but that's fair if you want to say he was the 3rd best WR, but he was also the fastest WR we have and the only starting option we have that can really stretch the D.

Person is out. Knight went down and hasn't been 100% since then. Even against Cuse he often came up limping or grimacing so he's just not as explosive as he was to start the season. It's why Houston has been garnering more carries and looks like our best back given he's actually able to go at full speed.

Riley was slotted to be the starter or back-up at LT and yes he's out for the year. Witt was our returning starter at RT and he missed last game and is going to be out this week as well. Because of that we've slid McGirt(starting LT) over to RT and have a true FR playing LT(though he has All-ACC potential in a couple of years).

Autenrieth is our #1 blocking TE(not sure who got more snaps between him and Angeline) but he's a critical piece of our running game since Angeline isn't really a great blocker and neither is our back-up in Parham.

I don't count Tyrone Riley since he went down before the season, but CJ Riley and Autenrieth are out for season and they started games this year. Person and Witt are slated to come back but honestly have no clue what time table either is on, just that it won't be this week and at this point the hope must be after the 2nd BYE week.

Need Witt and our RBs to get healthy soon.

10/15/2019 1:53:00 PM

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"Given our track record in Road Games even against a 2nd string QB its no gimme"


Outside of ECU and WCU, no game on our schedule was/is a gimme. That’s partly because we just aren’t that good. Luckily, the rest of our schedule (except Clemson) is also not very good.

10/15/2019 2:12:14 PM

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"Emezie and Thomas were our best returning receivers"


And they all play different positions. Thomas would not be nearly as good at either of the other positions, especially the x (which was Riley.) Losing Riley was a huge blow, both to the offense and special teams. We've gotten almost no production from the X spot this year (Carter is 5th on the team in both receptions and receiving yards and Provillion hasn't caught a single pass.)

10/15/2019 2:21:35 PM

rwoody
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Losed CJ was a blow bc he was ahead of the other guys on the depth chart, so presumably showed better in practice, but we really have no idea how we would have affected the game. He had alot of drop last year with limited chances. Maybe he had made huge improvements but maybe not.

10/15/2019 2:43:08 PM

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