HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
8 teams, start play tomorrow at 2pm. 10 week season.
Rule differences https://www.xfl.com/en-US/rules
Does it make it to the championship game on 4/26?? 2/7/2020 10:38:15 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
NC State Players
Johnathon Alston CB Seattle Mike Stevens CB LA Jack Tocho Safety LA
Marc Trestman is head coach of TB 2/7/2020 10:47:20 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
and Jalan McClendon is a QB for LA. 2/7/2020 11:42:04 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Going to a DC game in March if the league makes it that far. 2/8/2020 1:00:28 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Vince McMahon has an ungodly amount of money from TV deals for WWE and Saudi Arabia. It'll make it to the title game. 2/8/2020 3:39:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Some of the presentation, ie interviewing players immediately after big plays, and having coaches mic'd up during the game are cool, but the football itself just isn't that good. Some of it may be from the fact that it's the first game of the season, but some is also from the level of talent.
[Edited on February 8, 2020 at 3:47 PM. Reason : that last play was fun though] 2/8/2020 3:46:26 PM |
titans78 All American 4035 Posts user info edit post |
Always hear it said people want more football but they want more college and NFL football.
I don’t see this working just like it hasn’t worked previously. Yes previous iteration had issues, some major but if people really wanted it most of the issues were correctable. Ultimately no amount of rule shifts, recognizable coaches, or even quality reserve level players will make this work.
I think the only way it would work is if you somehow expanded the nfl draft, held it around the Super Bowl then created minor league teams filled with drafted rookies and 2nd string players from a certain franchise, more similar to the NBA G league or minor league baseball. I think more people would watch if there was a sense that “these guys could be the future Of my team.” But the NFLPA wouldn’t go for it and the result is just average football played by average players who couldn’t cut it in the NFL. I don’t think there is a market for that. 2/8/2020 6:45:08 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
the xfl at least figured out a better kickoff than the nfl 2/8/2020 6:55:36 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Jalan McClendon 1/4 0yds 1int 2sacks
LOL 2/8/2020 9:29:26 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Dang he put up a Finley-esque stat line 2/8/2020 10:10:58 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Which Finley? 2/8/2020 10:36:06 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
it doesn't matter, it's genetic. 2/8/2020 10:41:33 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Watched a few minutes of the Houston LA game. From what I saw it looked like decent quality football. 2/9/2020 11:03:02 AM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
It wasn’t terrible football, some pretty bad throws from QBs though. The fact that it wasn’t a gimmicky broadcast like the original XFL works in its favor. The problem is it’s clearly not the “best in the world” like you get in the NFL so unless you have some connection to the teams or the cities it’s not gonna be on the top of your list to watch. 2/9/2020 11:17:16 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah from what I've watched the game quality isn't terrible but you can definitely see the struggles of a new and growing league, especially with having everyone mic'd up. There are times there'll be 2-3 people talking overtop of each other, and sometimes the camera operators don't know what to show on replays, especially that Renegades-Battlehawks injury play 2/9/2020 6:54:44 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Watched for about 15 minutes total. The only difference I liked from the NFL was hearing the offensive play calls out loud. I don't think they would do that in the NFL because of the proprietary nature of play books. 2/10/2020 11:43:09 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
I couldn’t tell who was talking half the time. 2/10/2020 12:38:33 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
if you watched this with the expectation of nfl play, you have stupid expectations. 2/10/2020 5:04:30 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
i saw that pat mcafee is involved. can't stand him, won't be watching. 2/10/2020 5:08:22 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I too am not a big Pat McAfee fan. 2/10/2020 5:23:09 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I enjoyed the portions of games I saw this weekend. A lot of talk in here about inferior game quality but there are some BAD nfl games too, especially early season.
One of my favorite moments was when there was a goal line play during the Dallas game and they showed the offensive and defensive coordinators calling plays. The OC had some long drawn out play call, they cut to the DC and he just says something to the effect of "rush everyone". The offense scored on that play and Pat MaAfee said that that was the most hilarious defensive playcalling he's ever seen. Might've been a you need to be there moment but it was pretty hilarious 2/10/2020 7:15:30 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
DROD - after that game, LA fired their DC 2/10/2020 8:41:04 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " A lot of talk in here about inferior game quality but there are some BAD nfl games too, especially early season." |
2/11/2020 9:35:56 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Defenders are TEARING UP the NY Guardians right now 2/15/2020 3:57:27 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
30%-50% drop in viewership from week 1.
Uh oh 2/19/2020 7:51:55 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
shocking 2/19/2020 9:01:33 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I’m kinda holding out against all hope that this works out. Oh well. 2/19/2020 9:26:02 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Ratings down 22% from week 2, now down 48% overall from week 1 2/27/2020 10:52:38 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
They should make it a 6 game season 2/27/2020 10:55:48 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not shocked. The alternative rules can only draw so much attention. Then that gets boring. I'm one of those people who likes a break from football after the Super Bowl. I'll start caring again during week 1 of the college season. The spring and summer is filled with more important sporting events. 2/27/2020 11:08:00 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I don't get what they were thinking putting teams in the same major cities that already have saturated sports scenes. If I started a league, i'd put it in underserved cities/States that don't have pro teams. The whole area would attend/tune in because it would finally be "their team". Start small and build up like AAA instead of trying to be nfl2.0
Birmingham Jackson Charleston San Diego Portland OKC Louisville Virginia Beach Salt Lake City Omaha El Paso Boise
[Edited on February 28, 2020 at 1:01 AM. Reason : l] 2/28/2020 1:01:17 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
that worked great for the AAF 2/28/2020 1:30:02 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
The problem with the AAF wasn't *really* attendance, it was that they didn't have any money to start with. Most of the games had a reported attendance of ~15-20,000 (that's on the same level as MLS). Sure lots of the stadiums had huge swaths of seats covered with banners to try and cover up their seating issues but the problem was management and lack of funds from the start. When Dundon came in he had the money but had a different plan for the league--his official tie-in as NFL Spring Training was literally banned by the NFLPA and an outright impossibility. Couple that with the massive startup costs and the losses any football league is gonna see at the start and you get an investor who pulls out 9 times out of 10. 2/28/2020 7:46:20 AM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
Why am I watching this? A guy just scored a TD and in his sideline interview, he did the it doesn't matter what your name is Rock bit. 3/7/2020 2:55:39 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Oh so you're one of the 12 people still watching this 3/7/2020 3:17:26 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Also the players salary would actually be livable in the types of cities I suggested. 3/8/2020 11:45:11 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Horosho - a YouTuber named OfficialJaguarGator9 did a fairly good comparison of non-NFL cities vs NFL cities for expansion teams going back to the 40s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOpkvM954A0) - he found there wasn't actually a huge difference in average attendances but there are a few nuances
Defenders bounced back this week against the BattleHawks! Haven't been able to catch most of the games unfortunately but they benched Cardale Jones for Tyree Jackson
[Edited on March 9, 2020 at 10:13 AM. Reason : fix] 3/9/2020 9:45:28 AM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
Welp 3/12/2020 10:24:03 PM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
Defenders are East Conference champs (leader of a 3-way tie at 3-2), 2nd overall based on W/L behind the Roughnecks (5-0).
I'm hopeful the league can continue but probably the better decision in the long run since teams pretty much only made money from merch sales and tickets.
[Edited on March 12, 2020 at 11:31 PM. Reason : ed] 3/12/2020 11:30:55 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
RIP XFL 4/10/2020 1:28:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
lol it would have died anyways. 4/10/2020 2:00:16 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
maybe, not as quickly.
RIP 4/10/2020 6:00:46 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I mean they would have finished the season in all likelihood, but the TV ratings were already plummeting. 4/10/2020 6:49:21 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Football and basketball minor leagues are always going to have trouble existing because the division 1 college level has the same mainstream popularity as the top pro league. That makes it tough for a new 3rd league to exist. Also, football needs to be played during football season and not after all other football leagues end their season's. At that point people are ready for a football break and ready to watch other things like baseball, golf, tennis, motor sports, etc. Soccer, hockey, and baseball struggle, but have a little more success at the minor league level because they play during the same time of year as the top division, and the college level isn't anymore popular. 4/13/2020 6:19:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, football needs to be played during football season and not after all other football leagues end their season's. At that point people are ready for a football break and ready to watch other things like baseball, golf, tennis, motor sports, etc." |
you think anyone is going to care at all about the XFL if they are playing their games during NCAA and NFL season?4/13/2020 6:36:20 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
If anything, I've thought some of these leagues started too soon after the end of the NFL season. 4/14/2020 8:51:54 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. Don't start spring football in February. 4/14/2020 10:04:31 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^^No, but more football in the off season isn't a good idea either. 4/14/2020 12:53:04 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Is that why the NFL keeps adding more games?
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 2:49 PM. Reason : .] 4/14/2020 2:48:02 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^The NFL adding more games isn't the off season that is just a longer season. 4/14/2020 3:46:12 PM |