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moron
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He wants unrest I guess

11/4/2020 2:37:15 AM

horosho
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Its not fraud its just officials in democrat cities doing democrat tings. It wouldn't be practical to expect Atlanta and Philadelphia to count the votes before they know how many they need.

They are probably just late and disorganized which checks out based on their history of incompetence and complete inability to run these cities. Democrat officials couldn't even get Iowa caucus counted on the same night and let mayor Pete declare victory. They are hypocrites at best.

11/4/2020 3:29:00 AM

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You're worse than I remember.

11/4/2020 10:08:43 AM

bubster5041
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Yea turn this back off

11/4/2020 10:20:18 AM

horosho
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They were already plotting terrorist kidnapping of the governor before the election. Theres no recovering from this if its credible.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8923165/Software-glitch-Michigan-incorrectly-sent-6-000-Trump-votes-Biden.html

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[Edited on November 6, 2020 at 9:54 PM. Reason : yikes]

11/6/2020 9:54:23 PM

bubster5041
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I’ll wager it’s not.

11/7/2020 8:14:42 AM

The Coz
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^^Read it. It says it was most likely due to human error and has also been corrected.

As an aside, I too get my US Election insider news from British tabloid newspapers.

11/7/2020 8:44:18 AM

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No shit it was caused by human "error". Computers don't just randomly change the outcome of election results. It was corrected in one county because they did a manual count and discovered the discrepancy. It has not, however, been checked for in the 47 Michigan counties and 20something states that use the same software.
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"As an aside, I too get my US Election insider news from British tabloid newspapers."

I'm glad you brought this up because its quite telling. After watching the press conference live on foxnews, a british tabloid was carrying a major story about a us election but none of the places where americans get their news were covering it at all. Really shows where we are right now regardless of how isolated the incident is.

11/7/2020 1:25:14 PM

The Coz
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Yeah, I wouldn't have said that if it was from BBC or another reputable international news organization.

[Edited on November 7, 2020 at 5:43 PM. Reason : Looking forward to your links from the National Enquirer.]

11/7/2020 5:42:34 PM

horosho
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Its one of two things.

A. They reported it but google suppressed the results

B. They didn't report on it at all because it doesn't help their narrative

Either way it shows how tight of a hold big tech and big media have on information. We are what we think China is.

11/7/2020 7:48:30 PM

The Coz
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LOL! No.

11/7/2020 8:31:02 PM

moron
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Trump continues to assert he won states he’s clearly lost

McConnell refused to acknowledge president-elect Biden while touting house and senate victories

Trump fires the sec def and appointed a Trump friendly sec def

How does this end? The states can certify the votes but Trump will claim there’s still court cases. Even the Supreme Court couldn’t overturn enough states to flip things to Trump.

Is this the new Benghazi that they’ll ride until 2024??

11/9/2020 4:57:01 PM

horosho
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He's not president elect yet. Fake news throws that around but it actually has constitutional meeting. Theoretically, state legislatures can fail to certify the vote in time for the electoral college and not send 270. Its an improbable longshot but its possible.

The new sec defense is in place to squash resistance in the off chance state legislatures can pull off the coup.

11/9/2020 11:02:35 PM

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Barr authorizes Justice to probe any 'substantial allegations' of voter fraud
https://thehill.com/homenews/525221-barr-clears-justice-department-to-probe-substantial-allegations-of-voter-fraud

Settle in... it's gonna be a long ride it seems.

11/9/2020 11:36:42 PM

moron
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^^
He’s definitely president elect. Everything else you’re suggesting is idiotic.

11/10/2020 12:54:49 AM

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M-Webster
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"Definition of president-elect
: a person who has been elected president but who has not officially become president yet"


Has Joe Biden been elected president?

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"The United States Electoral College is the group of presidential electors required by the Constitution to form every four years for the sole purpose of electing the president and vice president."



[Edited on November 10, 2020 at 3:08 AM. Reason : hasn't happened yet]

11/10/2020 3:05:27 AM

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"Trump fires the sec def and appointed a Trump friendly sec def"


I don't know that Miller is some jackbooted Trump die-hard. He's been part of the military and intelligence circles since the mid-80s and doesn't seem very political. I think this was more about Trump hating Esper than about elevating a loyalist.

Not that it matters much. If we want to entertain some implausible scenarios in which the use of the military to suppress resistance is a possible outcome, then what the military does will be decided based on loyalties split between the President personally, the Constitution, or to particularly respected commanding officers. Nobody's gonna make the decision to go all Kent State on protesters based on which bureaucrat is in charge of the Pentagon.

11/10/2020 1:05:16 PM

Bullet
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This lady seems totally credible

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/03/melissa-carone-michigan-trump-giuliani-election/

12/3/2020 2:41:05 PM

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That is absolute fucking gold.

She's a real life version of Cecily Strong's girl at a party you wish you hadn't started a conversation with.

12/3/2020 2:50:40 PM

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"One of Rudy Giuliani’s witnesses just said she thinks “all Chinese look alike” while making the argument for a voter ID requirement in Michigan"


https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1334316061605421059

12/3/2020 3:22:03 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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The video that Team Trump tweeted of the after-hours suitcases being pulled out from under the table is really bringing out the right-wing fever swamp.

12/4/2020 8:37:14 AM

Bullet
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I happened to flip on Hannity when Guilliani was talking about the videos, but I couldn't watch it long enough to understand his argument. Was that all there was to it? That they had a video of a worker moving a box of ballots that were under a table?

12/4/2020 10:22:38 AM

The Coz
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Caught red-handed counting ballots!

12/4/2020 10:38:54 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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The claims of fraud seem to differ from one Trump supporter to the next, but these are the claims that I've seen:

1) The Democrat party hid suitcases of ballots under a table (hours or a day?) beforehand
2) The Democrat party told the election observers and the media to leave (possibly due to a busted water pipe) for the night
3) The Democrat party operatives then pulled out the hidden suitcases containing 100% fraudulent Biden ballots and began processing them overnight while no one was watching
4) Joe Biden's votes mysteriously skyrocketed when election observer and the media returned the following day

There's apparently a longer video from a hearing that proves all of this, which I haven't watched; however, from the video that I've seen, it appears to just show the normal process of election workers scanning ballots that happen to have been stored under a table.

12/4/2020 12:49:13 PM

The Coz
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^Yeah, well that's exactly what the FAKE NEWS MEDIA wants you to think! Think for yourselves, Sheeple!

12/4/2020 1:09:16 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Well, we all know that Donald Trump is the paragon of truth.

12/4/2020 1:21:38 PM

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"She's a real life version of Cecily Strong's girl at a party you wish you hadn't started a conversation with."


and predictably, Cecily just played her

12/5/2020 11:36:14 PM

A Tanzarian
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Spoiler alert! Some of us have to wait for culture to trickle down to the hinter time zones.

12/6/2020 1:00:55 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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Now it appears that the crux of Trump's supporters' arguments is that the four states being sued violated their own election laws by changing the rules prior to the election without following the proper legislative procedures.

I'm guessing that the messaging must have shifted on NewsMax or OANN.

12/11/2020 8:50:48 AM

thegoodlife3
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from Jamelle Bouie:

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" they're afraid of using their own authority so they won't do this, but again, house democratic leadership should use this argument as the basis for not seating the 106 Republicans who joined the amicus brief in support of Texas' lawsuit."

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" if they believe the election was marred by irregularities, then there's no reason to seat them until those irregularities have been sorted out. call the bluff."

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" the old "norms" are gone. if you want new ones, you have to create them. and part of creating new norms is enforcing consequences for bad actors. if a majority of the house republican conference sincerely believes the election was illegitimate, than that includes them too."

12/11/2020 9:34:23 AM

rwoody
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Link? Or tweets?

12/11/2020 10:26:27 AM

thegoodlife3
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tweets

12/11/2020 11:23:59 AM

rwoody
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Cool thanks

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/1337395239175286785?s=19

12/11/2020 1:42:28 PM

A Tanzarian
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I wonder if the Senate will do something like that if Warnock and/or Ossoff wins, particularly if it's close.

12/11/2020 1:54:32 PM

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I have faith that the supreme court would call that bluff. If their argument is that the elections were illegitimate, then ALL of the races on the ballot need to be overturned.

12/11/2020 2:36:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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hell yes

http://twitter.com/BillPascrell/status/1337484901143240704

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" Today I’m calling on House leaders to refuse to seat any Members trying to overturn the election and make donald trump an unelected dictator."

12/11/2020 2:53:42 PM

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" If their argument is that the elections were illegitimate, then ALL of the races on the ballot need to be overturned."


Yeah that’s the thing that is hilarious to me. I know looking for logic in this is a waste of time. Why is it that votes for Biden are the only illegal votes? All the other races were 100% legit?

All of this is dependent upon the assumption that the Democrats (or whoever you attribute the fraud to) are simultaneously genius masterminds to pull this off and also bumbling idiots. They managed to rig an election, leave no traces of evidence so that all the courts to rule in their favor, and then also forget to rig the congressional races.

12/11/2020 6:16:36 PM

nacstate
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Supreme court said GTFOWTBS

12/11/2020 7:17:24 PM

The Coz
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Guess they lacked the requisite wisdom and courage.

12/11/2020 8:28:25 PM

A Tanzarian
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Remember, it's not official until ACB shoots laser beams from her eyes.

12/11/2020 9:07:00 PM

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