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jocristian
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America's gold medal hope in the women's 100m just popped hot for marijuana and looks doubtful for the games.

I'm curious if the "thems the rules" crowd will react to Sha'Carri Richardson's suspension the same way they did to state players not getting vaccinated. Or are bullshit rules sometimes indefensible.

And yes, yes I did just make this thread because there was nowhere else to make my brilliant NC state baseball/USA T&F observation.

7/2/2021 9:32:44 AM

justinh524
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thems da rules

7/2/2021 9:46:26 AM

thegoodlife3
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didn’t realize weed was responsible for a global pandemic

7/2/2021 11:38:58 AM

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Ah yes, weed, the ultimate athletic performance enhancer.

7/2/2021 12:25:38 PM

Bullet
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Comparing Covid to marijuana really shows the logic you use to arrive at your opinions.

7/2/2021 12:59:29 PM

jocristian
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There it is... that's the kind of straw-manning I am used to here on the wolf web.

I didn't compare Covid to marijuana of course. I compared dumb, arbitrary and inconsistently applied rules to another set of dumb, arbitrary and inconsistently applied rules.

7/2/2021 2:13:07 PM

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I didn't mean you were literally comparing marijuana to Covid, of course, and I'm pretty sure you knew that. You're comparing the situations, which aren't really comparable.

7/2/2021 3:29:27 PM

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The situations are identical insofar as you have a governing body who created a ruleset ostensibly with the goals of protecting the athletes and the competitive balance of the sport

Except that neither the ruleset banning marijuana or the ruleset mandating regular testing of unvaccinated athletes (but not vaxxed) does those things.

Half the CWS thread is full of folks effectively agreeing with the NCAA's decision because "welp, they were just following the protocols" and "the team should have gotten vaxxed".

Now, you have a similar scenario where the athlete knew the rules and could have just not used weed and yet the response is different.

This is the part where you respond with some variation about how weed is harmless and positive covid tests are not. And I agree with you. But I am specifically arguing the ruleset, not the harmfulness of the thing the rules are trying to protect from. And both rulesets are fuckin dumb and arbitrary--therefore neither Richardson or the Pack baseball team should have been DQed.

7/2/2021 4:08:32 PM

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"inconsistently applied rules "


While this may be a dumb rule, it is consistently applied. All the Olympic athletes are drug tested. Most of them are just smart enough not to smoke weed leading up to the olympics or have other ways of beating the tests.

You are right comparing the baseball team to this, though. The results of both were completely avoidable by the offending parties.

Just because it's a dumb rule doesn't mean it's not a rule.

7/2/2021 5:45:19 PM

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And along those lines ^, were the baseball rules inconsistently applied? Seems like they followed their rules.

The rule was to test unvaccinated players. And in the event of an “outbreak”, it is then protocol to start testing vaccinated players on a team. At least that’s what I understood. And that seems like what they did.

7/2/2021 6:20:57 PM

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In both cases the rules are out of sync with current events AND someone made a mistake. However smoking weed affects nobody else, not getting a vaccine affects many others.

Olympics this week also banned a woman for missing a drug test while recovering from an abortion and two other women bc their natural testosterone level was too high.

7/3/2021 1:00:47 AM

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https://twitter.com/Jomboy_/status/1419117267577671681

7/25/2021 4:31:45 PM

justinh524
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HE JUST SHRUGGED IT OFF.

"what are ya gonna do?"

7/25/2021 5:19:18 PM

thegoodlife3
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that race ruled

bummed for Ledecky, tho

7/25/2021 10:35:11 PM

TKE-Teg
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Been some great events so far.

7/26/2021 10:00:11 AM

HaLo
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Hey NBC there’s a reason they’re called ROC. Maybe let’s not be all excited about a guy recovering in half the time from an Achilles tear

7/26/2021 9:39:20 PM

HaLo
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Great watch party reaction for Lydia Jacoby

7/26/2021 10:36:58 PM

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^
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"17-year-old Lydia Jacoby won GOLD in the women's 100m breaststroke. And her hometown in Alaska went NUTS

(via @NBCOlympics)
https://t.co/CS4enBsjYs"

7/26/2021 11:06:17 PM

justinh524
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Lmao at her mom recording the race on a goddamn ipad

7/27/2021 12:03:28 AM

HaLo
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Had to laugh at Tirico’s comment “We’ve got this recorded for you, Leslie!”

7/27/2021 12:49:10 AM

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that was a true Boomer moment

7/27/2021 8:39:03 AM

justinh524
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(her parents are probably not boomers)

7/27/2021 9:00:55 AM

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the father was definitely on the cusp. the mom, perhaps not.




also, American women lost another gold medal softball game to the Japanese

7/27/2021 9:09:03 AM

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Sucks about Biles. I was looking forward to her dominating. Hopefully she is able to compete still.

[Edited on July 27, 2021 at 1:27 PM. Reason : Oh wait, she is not really injured?]

7/27/2021 1:24:32 PM

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mental health

7/27/2021 1:31:55 PM

Jeepin4x4
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still a champion in our hearts!

7/27/2021 3:34:18 PM

justinh524
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Yeah i saw this about biles and thought it explained the situation well

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/how-simone-biles-saved-herself-and-her-teammates-at-the-olympics-171619025.html

She knew she didn't have it and knew her scores were bringing her team down so she pulled herself out.

Also, no way are that swimmer's parents boomers. She's only 17, so the absolute later boomers would have been like 40 when they had her. Her parents are firmly gen x. Heck there are probably Olympians with millennial parents now.

7/27/2021 8:48:19 PM

thegoodlife3
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very cool to see all of the shitbag racists come out to attack her

7/27/2021 10:22:52 PM

HaLo
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It was clear she didn’t have it after the vault. She didn’t even complete the routine as planned. She scored 1.2 points below her qualification routine. Assuming that she continues to be 1.2 points below the qual scores for the other routines, she’s:
.8pts less than her replacement in uneven bars
.6pts less than her replacement in beam
.7pts less than her replacement on floor
That’s 2.1pts and the USA only won silver by 2.0pts. Only above 4th by 2.4pts. Obviously lots of assumptions there and it’s definitely some Monday morning quarterbacking but pts versus replacement is a real thing.

I don’t consider her to be a “hero”. As an elite athlete I’m sure she knows if she has ‘it’. After not hitting the routine on the first exercise she has to know she can be a drag on the team and her results can’t be dropped if she’s having a bad night.

7/27/2021 10:26:43 PM

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I wonder how long it would take me to swim 1 mile. Probably like 2 hours if I didn't drown first.

7/27/2021 11:11:57 PM

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I too wonder things like that. I want to try one day

[Edited on July 28, 2021 at 2:05 AM. Reason : I’d guess like 40 minutes]

7/28/2021 2:05:11 AM

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^^I'd have to rest at the turns for sure. I'm not a great swimmer. I get tired just watching water polo.

I really hope Simone can compete in the later events.

I also think it's BS that the judges aren't fairly scoring some of her moves because no other gymnast can do them. That's like penalizing Tony Hawk when he was the only one who could pull off a 900.

[Edited on July 28, 2021 at 8:16 AM. Reason : .]

7/28/2021 8:07:02 AM

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I think water polo amazes me the most. I probably wouldn't last 5 minutes before I swallowed a gallon of water and someone would have to pull me to the side.

7/28/2021 8:56:56 AM

justinh524
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Dressage amazes me the most. I can't imagine prancing around with some rich asshole sitting on my back.

7/28/2021 9:54:06 AM

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Quote :
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100% seems like she is done with this

7/28/2021 10:53:34 AM

SSS
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^^ LOL

7/28/2021 11:41:02 AM

Jeepin4x4
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Suni Lee saves America

7/29/2021 10:34:40 AM

TKE-Teg
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Quote :
"I wonder how long it would take me to swim 1 mile. Probably like 2 hours if I didn't drown first."


If I'm recalling correctly, to get an A in the 100 level swimming class at NCSU men had to swim a sub 35 minute. If swimming comes naturally to you it's not "that" hard to do after a semester of swimming. (it was 10 min more for women IIRC).

7/29/2021 5:26:18 PM

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And that is why you take water aerobics instead

7/29/2021 5:51:41 PM

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US Women's beach volleyball team playing for gold tonight!

8/5/2021 10:53:05 AM

justinh524
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Whatever. Let me know when beach basketball is an Olympic sport.

8/5/2021 1:27:48 PM

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My peoples are SUPER happy about Suni Lee gettin' that gold like you wouldn't believe. We've never been more collectively proud of anyone in our (recorded) history. The fact that she's a woman is the cherry on top in my traditionally super-patriarchal culture.

8/5/2021 1:52:32 PM

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^ very cool. I enjoyed her story and seeing video of her as a kid practicing on a homemade balance beam her dad made for her in the front yard.

I spent 4 hours watching the men's 50km Walk event. That can't be good for your hips/legs.

8/6/2021 1:32:18 PM

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this was about a week ago, but i watched a good bit of mouontain biking, it was pretty entertaining

8/6/2021 3:27:04 PM

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Friendly reminder that Kevin Durant is currently the best basketball player on the planet

8/6/2021 11:03:49 PM

HaLo
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^

8/6/2021 11:12:35 PM

HaLo
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How the hell does the US have any possession that doesn’t involve KD touching the ball in the front court

8/6/2021 11:14:59 PM

justinh524
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Someone needs to tell Draymond he is here just to play defense and set screens. He doesn't ever need to dribble.

8/6/2021 11:18:28 PM

HaLo
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KD at the end of the third is just like “what the hell do I have to do”

8/6/2021 11:58:11 PM

NCSUStinger
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We got this

8/7/2021 12:17:12 AM

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