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dmspack
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Great start. Winner faces UNC

Also. Throw whatever NIL money we can at Thomas the Tank Engine and don’t let him transfer.

5/28/2022 6:12:12 PM

rwoody
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Even on acc network they fucking call us "North Carolina"

5/28/2022 7:25:29 PM

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Go Pack!! Beat the Tar Heels.

5/28/2022 8:46:08 PM

rwoody
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How many times has Avent faced unc in the final?

5/28/2022 8:48:16 PM

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"Throw whatever NIL money we can at Thomas the Tank Engine and don’t let him transfer."


So the fsu rumor is true?

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"North Carolina and NC State have combined for 28 appearances in the ACC Baseball Championship Game.

However, this is just the second time they've faced each other for the baseball title.

The previous was a 5-0 Tar Heels win in 1990."


[Edited on May 28, 2022 at 9:15 PM. Reason : ~]

5/28/2022 8:54:57 PM

dmspack
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I have no idea of any fsu rumors. Just figured in the day and age of NIL, a ton of teams could be in a position to throw money at him.

5/28/2022 9:18:08 PM

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Wait I thought they beat us with Rodon, that was semis?

5/28/2022 9:49:43 PM

Dynasty2004
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Yes

5/28/2022 10:17:08 PM

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We lost to them in the cws in 2013, maybe that's what you're thinking?

Ah, 18 innings in the semis

[Edited on May 28, 2022 at 10:22 PM. Reason : ~]

5/28/2022 10:18:33 PM

dmspack
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We’re firmly in the tournament now. I’d assume even with a W, we’re out of contention for hosting a regional though, right?

5/29/2022 9:41:30 AM

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Game time! Fuck Carolina!

5/29/2022 11:42:44 AM

rwoody
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Trash espn can't decide what's on what channel

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"Today's game will start on ESPNU then move over to ESPN2 after the conclusion of the women's lacrosse national championship game."


Can't even dvr

[Edited on May 29, 2022 at 12:27 PM. Reason : E]

5/29/2022 12:24:36 PM

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5/29/2022 12:46:49 PM

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We are fucking cursed.

5/29/2022 12:50:02 PM

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A story as old as time

5/29/2022 12:52:28 PM

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That escalated quickly.

5/29/2022 1:35:49 PM

Dynasty2004
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Elliott gon Elliot

5/29/2022 2:05:48 PM

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NCAA sure does love to fuck us.

5/30/2022 12:38:10 PM

dmspack
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Lol

5/30/2022 12:39:12 PM

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LOL Unreal

5/30/2022 12:57:07 PM

dmspack
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So we won 1 ACC series vs NCAAT teams. That doesn’t sound good but I have no idea how that compares to other teams.

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The ACC has no representation on the committee, and it shows. The conference has gotten hosed repeatedly over the last two years."


Reaction from national guys (ie, non-State fans) seems to be one of surprise too. Seems like we got hosed lol

Also. There’s a segment of State fans that think Boo Corrigan sucks at his job because he doesn’t tweet non stop like Debbie Yow. It’s very weird. They do realize the tweets and public statements are 100% to appease fans and have 0 impact as far as actually reaching somebody of importance.

[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 1:07 PM. Reason : A]

5/30/2022 1:00:00 PM

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Damn even the official NC State Athletics account getting involved

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"?? (confused face emoji) "


https://twitter.com/PackAthletics/status/1531318870283276289

[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ed]

5/30/2022 1:11:41 PM

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^^ To your point:

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not getting in after making that run in the #ACC tournament is an absolute joke. - Kendall Rogers, Managing Editor, @D1Baseball"


https://twitter.com/KendallRogers/status/1531313533211795456

5/30/2022 1:14:21 PM

justinh524
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I mean we were the tenth place team in the conference and played really shitty teams OOC (and didn't do all that great against them!) This isn't really getting fucked by the NCAA.

5/30/2022 1:21:19 PM

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33rd in RPI -- a metric that takes into account schedule difficulty -- and we couldn't make a field of 64.

5/30/2022 1:28:04 PM

dmspack
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I really don’t keep up with NCAA baseball outside of State so I don’t really know much about the selection process. Non Con SOS def kept us out. Whether that’s consistent with other years, I have no idea. A sweep of ECU and beating Miami in the ACCT looks impressive on paper. But I don’t know how our resume compares to other teams.

I know bracketology stuff is usually a silly thing, but all the predictions/projections had us in. A lot seemed to have us as a #2 seed. So it definitely seems surprising and definitely seems like a snub. Like with basketball, all fringe type teams have giant holes in their resume…that’s why they’re bubble teams. So yeah, our resume wasn’t iron-clad…but no bubble team’s resume is.

I mean, I’m not gonna say we got fucked by the NCAA. Because that implies some intentionality imo. But i think it’s definitely fair to say State not making the tournament is consider by most unbiased folks as surprising and a snub. It’s justifiable given non con SOS, though.

[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 1:31 PM. Reason : A]

5/30/2022 1:30:15 PM

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This is what happens when you have a chance to clinch a bid and blow it.

5/30/2022 2:12:07 PM

dmspack
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I feel like “blow it” is a little strong. We lost to an objectively better team in a one-off game title game.

5/30/2022 2:31:08 PM

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Literally none of the NCAA baseball publications had us on the bubble. We were firmly in according to them all.

5/30/2022 3:05:10 PM

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Not enough crazy state fan in this thread, I'll start the conspiracy theory: ncaa left us out bc of all the shit we (specifically tww??) talked about them last year

5/30/2022 4:10:06 PM

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Maybe don't get swept by Northeastern. Or lose to Campbell. Or maybe not have a losing conference record. Or maybe win some fuckin series against good teams. We didn't win a single series in the ACC against a team with a conference record better than .500.

I'm just so tired of this "The NCAA is out to get us!!!!" bullshit that pops up after demonstrably mediocre teams get left out of tournaments (or after a team full of idiots doesn't get vaccinated.)

5/30/2022 4:11:09 PM

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The NCAA can be "not out to get us" and make bad decisions out of line with the typical process all at the same time. Sure the team could have done more but when everyone BUT the NCAA says we should be in, not just State fans, there is smoke.

5/30/2022 4:37:54 PM

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I don't think there is though. We haven't won a series against a halfway decent team all season. Why should we get the chance to try again? I don't feel like looking up the other bubble teams, but i can't imagine anyone who did worse against average or better teams than us. 3 games in the ACC tournament shouldn't make up for the fact that we weren't very good the entire season.

5/30/2022 7:13:04 PM

The Coz
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Next time win the game.

5/30/2022 7:33:03 PM

dmspack
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1) Justin for sure works for the ncaa, can sense State fans coming close to solving the case of the grand anti-State conspiracy and he’s in damage control mode.

2) can somebody compare our resume to other bubble teams that made it? I get that our resume is flawed. But I assume other bubble teams were seriously flawed too (or they wouldn’t be on the bubble). We were pretty much universally considered in by all the writers and reporters across the board. State fans aren’t the only ones saying that it’s a shock State didn’t make it. Like, if our resume is so obviously bad then people (non State fans) probably wouldn’t also be so clearly surprised by this.

I don’t care that much that we didn’t make it. I’m clearly a casual baseball fan. But I think dismissing it as “flawed resume, look at these bad losses” doesn’t account for other teams also having bad losses or lacking impressive wins. You gotta compare yourself to other teams in the same boat. It lacks context otherwise.

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"We haven't won a series against a halfway decent team all season"


Swept ecu, didn’t we?


[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 7:49 PM. Reason : A]

[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 7:51 PM. Reason : ss ]

5/30/2022 7:48:16 PM

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"Wake Forest coach Tom Walter: "I was certainly surprised NC State didn't make it. That bubble was shrinking and shrinking."
Walter said he built the 64 teams himself during the weekend and got 63/64, with NC State being the only miss."

https://twitter.com/Les_Johns/status/1531380700334772225

5/30/2022 9:05:52 PM

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Yeah, while State fans saying stuff about how "wE'rE cUrSed" or whatever is generally pretty cringey and annoying, I feel like this is actually a pretty justified thing to complain about -- like we've said, a panoply of sports casters/coaches/baseball fans/etc have said this move surprised them. And while you can say "ho hum, shoulda won" all you want, that doesn't change the fact that basically the entire sport (other than y'all, apparently) is surprised we didn't make it in

ED: just to clarify, this is directed at Justin and The Coz, not the people immediately above me

[Edited on May 30, 2022 at 10:36 PM. Reason : e]

5/30/2022 10:35:29 PM

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I'm just done with the whole NC State sports victimhood. No one and no conspiracy can keep you from advancing if you win. Well, unless you stupidly choose not to get vaccinated, and in that case you deserve what you get.

5/30/2022 10:53:09 PM

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How much different is our resume vs. unc if you remove their wins vs us? One is hosting a regional and one isn’t in?

Plenty of teams are put into ncaa tournaments on the resume of mediocrity in a strong conference, but seems like State is the one that gets targeted for a “weak” OOC schedule that often looks no different than anyone else or that we don’t have enough quality wins when others don’t too. Yes, win more games and beat better teams. But it often seems like we are asked to do that like a mid-major while other ACC / power 5 aren’t.

5/31/2022 12:48:22 AM

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Well they didn't lose an out of conference series. They also swept FSU and won a series vs WF to end the season. Both are light years ahead of our conference wins. Also, hosting is definitely not based solely on record/talent. Yes it is a joke that UNC is hosting. But they are better than us, as evidenced by the season results. And they are clearly playing their best at the right time and I guess they got rewarded for that.

But yeah even if UNC didn't win the ACC, our resume is clearly worse than theirs.

5/31/2022 3:06:34 AM

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" I'm just done with the whole NC State sports victimhood. "


100% down with this.

5/31/2022 5:58:13 AM

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"2) can somebody compare our resume to other bubble teams that made it?"


Texas Tech and UCLA are the only two that really didn't deserve to be in.

Could make the claim that Rutgers deserved to be in ahead of NCSU.

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They were a fringe baseball team and didn't win the championship. Even if they were the first team out, they didn't show anything all year that said that they could win against good competition in a series.

The weak OOC schedule along with the poor performance in those games and down the stretch cost them a bid.

Same thing happened in basketball with the NET and Doeren in football, don't schedule cupcakes every year...don't be a bubble team and you won't have to worry with it.

All that being said, I still believe Texas Tech and UCLA should not have gotten in over NCSU and Rutgers.

5/31/2022 10:13:14 AM

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" Same thing happened in basketball with the NET and Doeren in football, don't schedule cupcakes every year...don't be a bubble team and you won't have to worry with it."


Getting off topic but…When has a weak OOC schedule cost State football anything? We generally play 1 P5 OOC every year, 1 FCS, and then 2 G5 schools. That’s what like 90% of P5 teams do.


For baseball, I think it’s more than just scheduling cupcakes. Dont get swept by Northeastern and this isn’t a discussion.

[Edited on May 31, 2022 at 10:38 AM. Reason : H]

5/31/2022 10:35:36 AM

rwoody
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Yea lost me with football

5/31/2022 12:40:53 PM

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Yep there is no reason for the football team to not schedule cupcakes. The only way we're ever playing in the playoffs is by running the table, so might as well schedule 3 easily winnable games to go along with the 1 P5 school. A 1 loss NC State team will never make the CFP.

5/31/2022 10:34:25 PM

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"When has a weak OOC schedule cost State football anything? "


It's referenced when people bring up DD's record. He has padded his stats against cupcakes.

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Tommy Tanks to FSU for large NIL deal supposedly.

They told him he could play a position and not be DH as well as offered quite a large sum of cash.

[Edited on June 1, 2022 at 10:26 AM. Reason : g]

6/1/2022 10:25:11 AM

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"referenced when people bring up DD's record. He has padded his stats against cupcakes"


Who gives a shit

6/1/2022 10:57:50 AM

dmspack
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Unless you’re competing for a CFP spot, the goal is pretty much exclusively to have the best record regardless of OOC schedule. 9-3 is always better than 7-5.

6/1/2022 10:59:38 AM

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Tommy Tanks officially entered the transfer portal. Was hoping it was just rumors

6/2/2022 12:10:20 PM

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"Carter Trice, a second-team All-American in 2021 at Old Dominion, has committed to transfer to NC State. Trice hit .288 with 17 homers and 49 RBIs while stealing 18 bases this year and second base and corner outfield."


Tommy who?

6/2/2022 4:28:16 PM

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