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jocristian
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Very surprised Baby T isn't going pro. If Joiner can become the distributor we have been missing and we get some inside scoring from the transfers, we could be decent next year. Here I go talking myself back into NCState bball again.

[Edited on May 31, 2022 at 10:49 AM. Reason : d]

5/31/2022 10:49:16 AM

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Color me suprised.

5/31/2022 11:13:36 AM

justinh524
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OH WE BACK

2023 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS BABY

5/31/2022 11:22:03 AM

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5/31/2022 11:26:52 AM

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This kind of thing doesn't happen these days, does it? Especially at NC State. He's forgoing a likely first round drafting and a bunch of $. But kudos, hopefully he'll become an NC State legend.

P!!!!~`https://packinsider.com/2022/05/31/terquavion-smith-opts-out-of-nba-draft-heeees-baaaaack/

[Edited on May 31, 2022 at 12:23 PM. Reason : hopefully getting that NIL $]

5/31/2022 12:22:27 PM

rwoody
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Whoa

5/31/2022 12:43:52 PM

Dynasty2004
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I would assume its a fat NIL

5/31/2022 1:15:25 PM

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Glad to hear it. He is about the only thing I was looking forward to watching next year on our team. If he would have left, it would have been really bad.

5/31/2022 1:26:21 PM

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The bad news is it's just enough that I'll actually watch games but prob not enough to improve much from last year.

Without him I may have felt ok mostly checking out

5/31/2022 1:42:54 PM

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"The bad news is it's just enough that I'll actually watch games but prob not enough to improve much from last year."


In stark contrast to my own pessimism about Keatts and his ability to coach thus far, I'm actually optimistic that we could finish in the top half of the ACC this season after seeing what he did this off-season.

- Terq has ACC POY type of talent. Whether he can be consistent enough remains to be seen, but I could see him taking a step-up this year and if he does then that makes us better than last year by itself
- Keatts going after two "scoring" traditional big men rather than athletic D-first guys could signal a change to his offense going forward. I personally would love to see us feed it inside more often.
- Cam Hayes leaving is actually addition by subtraction and although Seabron was decent at getting the ball up-court, he was not a facilitator. We had noone to regularly initiate offense and the only time our team has been decent under Keatts was when we had Markell. I'm optimistic that Joiner could fill that role.

I'm back in baby.....

5/31/2022 2:24:30 PM

rwoody
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Yea i guess none of the transfers were that exciting to me, but we've seen non exciting transfers do well in the past so we who knows

5/31/2022 2:31:28 PM

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Who the fuck was Seabron supposed to do pick and rolls with? Dowuona and Gibson? Motherfuckers could barely catch a ball.

5/31/2022 2:53:33 PM

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^^ For me, it's not so much about the individuals that I am excited about--although I do think Joiner could be a massive upgrade over Cam--it's that the presence of a scoring big man could signal that Keatts is making adjustments to his offense.

Noone said anything about Seabron running pick and rolls. It isn't a controversial statement that basically any competent PG would be any upgrade over Cam Hayes and Seabron doing his best PG impression. That's not a knock on Seabron. He was our best player last year by a long shot. He isn't a PG, he just had to play one because Hayes was dogshit.

5/31/2022 3:53:39 PM

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(I think I read earlier today that Seabron ran the point in some combine scrimmages and was impressive. I can't find where I read that, but I think I saw he had 30+ points)

5/31/2022 4:02:06 PM

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https://twitter.com/PackInsider/status/1531674392488554497

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"Hey
@thelegendaryJT3
, remember this tweet?

Also, remember badgering us to publically admit you were right over the past 3 months, despite no official news coming out?

Well, news has come out. Smith is back. You were wrong. Just for the record. (& you might end up going 0-2)"




Man, JT3 getting tooled on by PI.

5/31/2022 7:26:15 PM

rwoody
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The saving grace is he doesn't post here that much

5/31/2022 7:50:51 PM

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Lol at predicting Cam and Thomas Allen leaving. Nobody expected Allen back….I’d guess 95% of fans didn’t even realize he still had more eligibility.

5/31/2022 7:51:48 PM

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I still think we will finish in the bottom 3 of the ACC but now I can at least pull for Baby T to be the leading scorer in the ACC. Keeping my expectations low so maybe I will be pleasantly surprised.

5/31/2022 9:19:04 PM

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"Noone said anything about Seabron running pick and rolls."


You're incredibly dumb or insane if you think that wasn't going to be a staple of the offense had Bates not gotten hurt in 56 seconds. Having a completely inept offensive player like Ebe meant that nobody was really helping off shooters when Seabron drove, so he had no one to kick out to.

5/31/2022 10:30:30 PM

rwoody
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I think you're getting mad at nothing this time, you should have just started out saying PnR with Bates would have likely seen Seabron be a better facilitator. As it was it just seemed like a non sequitor. Pretty easy to run PnR and still not facilitate.

5/31/2022 11:08:53 PM

justinh524
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It's hard to facilitate when you're essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

[Edited on June 1, 2022 at 4:43 AM. Reason : I'll stab u]

6/1/2022 4:43:27 AM

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"Man, JT3 getting tooled on by PI"


Not too worried, I made that statement before the NIL collaboration was formed and they collected nearly a million dollars to throw at Baby T.

Without that bag, he was gone.

Otherwise, I've been right on the money.
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They will still likely be picked to finish last in the ACC and I don't foresee that being wrong. Not like the team got that much better. T adds some firepower, maybe he will lead the league in scoring. But I still think they finish last and Keatts is fired.

6/1/2022 10:24:22 AM

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Other than when I’m wrong, I’m right every time.

6/1/2022 11:02:18 AM

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"the only thing I had incorrect"


Was everything

6/1/2022 11:18:28 AM

JT3bucky
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Nah, just Smith.

6/1/2022 12:40:01 PM

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I think the vast majority of State fans fully expected Cam Hayes to transfer, Seabron to go pro, and Gibson to transfer. Bates probably caught some by surprise, but he nearly transferred last year and we all expected this to be his final season had he played. His injury was the only reason anybody thought he might return. And nobody expected thomas Allen back. So you can toot your horn, that’s fine. But you hardly deserve credit for bold, outlandish predictions that (mostly) came true

6/1/2022 12:59:46 PM

rwoody
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^^

6/1/2022 3:05:16 PM

rwoody
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Amidst all the owning did anyone post this

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"NC State’s Dereon Seabron will remain in the NBA Draft and forgo his final years of college eligiblity, source told @Stadium."

Jeff goodman

6/1/2022 3:06:40 PM

dmspack
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Seabron going pro?

I called it

6/1/2022 4:59:02 PM

JT3bucky
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[quoteAmidst all the owning did anyone post this[/quote]

Yes. I did.

6/1/2022 10:00:57 PM

rwoody
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No you didn't

6/1/2022 11:24:56 PM

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Shits hilarious.

Talked all that shit.

Was wildly wrong.

Got called out.

Tried a sad tap dance to explain his public failure and failed hilariously.

6/2/2022 1:20:34 AM

Bullet
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Torin Dorn is coming back as a "graduate manager"

6/2/2022 9:24:03 AM

rwoody
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^I called it

6/2/2022 11:14:20 AM

justinh524
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can confirm. I called rwoody calling it.

6/2/2022 12:33:13 PM

dmspack
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Big, if true

6/2/2022 12:48:04 PM

Bullet
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I've been calling it since he left. But no one would listen. Maybe now all of you people will listen to me.

6/2/2022 2:06:01 PM

Bullet
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I there not a Terquavion Smith appreciation thread??

https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/Terquavion-Smith-NBA-Draft-returns-ESPN-NC-State-basketball-more-work-to-do-ACC-188174852/

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"RALEIGH, N.C. -- Terquavion Smith shocked many analysts across the country on Tuesday morning when he announced he would be returning to NC State for the 2022-23 season. The Wolfpack is returning a player that averaged more than 18 points and nearly three assists in ACC play last season.

Smith spoke to Jonathan Givony of ESPN in an exclusive interview about why he planned to return, pointing to the fact that there will be much more attention on him next year. And with that extra attention, it will also benefit NC State as a whole.

"If things go like I expect, I won't have to go through the combine experience the same way," Smith said. "Everyone will see my games and our team all season, we are going to make sure they are seeing something special. The NBA can wait one year, I have more work to do in the ACC first."

Last year, Smith was named to the ACC All-Freshman Team and was an All-ACC Honorable Mention. His breakout season concluded with 96 3-pointers, which led the ACC and put him at fourth all-time for a freshman in ACC history.

And while his stock certainly ballooned during the NBA Draft Combine -- which meant more guaranteed money -- Smith said he is betting on himself for next year. The fact that NIL is a possibility for Smith when he returns, and you can bet he'll be a big name in the NC State NIL market, he said that was never at the root of his decision.

"I have to be honest and admit money has never been at the center of my thoughts," Smith said. "My agent explained to me that teams as high as the late teens, through the rest of the first round, all have me ranked as a first-round talent. It's exciting to hear that.

"But I told him I have more work to do. I like school and my college in particular. Remember, my last two years have been so strange, thanks to the pandemic. I just want one more season to get everything right and just be a college student."

One note that Givony touched on in his story is the fact that Smith only had two other offers out of high school and was not a major recruit. While that's partially true, a major reason for his two offers -- East Carolina and High Point -- was solely due to the fact that he committed to NC State following his sophomore year at Farmville Central and never wavered.

He's doing the exact same now as a student-athlete, and a major part of that is the connection with Kevin Keatts and the players around him.

Current projections may have Smith as a potential first-round pick for this year, but analysts already had Smith as a potential lottery pick for next year if he returned. And that was before the Draft Combine. After? Yeah, he looks like a surefire lottery pick for next year with Top-10 upside as he continues to develop in Raleigh."

6/7/2022 3:28:35 PM

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Not shitting on Bullet for posting that. But lol at that article. It’s a 247 article about an interview he did with espn. Gotta aggregate that content, baby. Gotta get those clicks!

6/7/2022 8:24:48 PM

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Former Kentucky and Arizona State assistant Joel Justus is reportedly set to join the NC State Men's Basketball staff.

6/8/2022 2:45:49 PM

Bullet
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One of the best recruiters in the country, or so I'm told

6/8/2022 3:47:38 PM

rwoody
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So, the bag man?

6/8/2022 8:07:44 PM

rayef3rw
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Maybe now that it's above board we can move from bags to, like, yachts or something

6/8/2022 8:25:54 PM

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https://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu-s-smith-ready-to-be-that-guy-with-return-in-expanded-role/20331680/

6/15/2022 5:46:56 PM

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Leading scorer for ACC or bust.

6/15/2022 10:37:45 PM

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Bust. It's always bust.

6/15/2022 11:20:26 PM

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And JT3 still got owned lololol

Talking all that shit.

[Edited on June 15, 2022 at 11:28 PM. Reason : At this point JT3 is equivalent to OJ writing his If I Did It book ]

6/15/2022 11:25:55 PM

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Synapse that friend you have that be bringing up old shit like “you remember back in 2003 when such and such said that one thing”

6/16/2022 3:15:06 AM

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Quote :
" Bust. It's always bust."


They will build a bust of Baby T after the numbers he puts up this year.

6/16/2022 6:07:18 AM

rayef3rw
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^^ relevant https://twitter.com/murrman5/status/1179046435737800705?lang=en

6/16/2022 8:25:50 AM

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