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StTexan
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Is it possible to rank the best Nato countries? The worst? Where is Turkey?

3/30/2023 11:16:50 PM

GrumpyGOP
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I know this account is not meant to be taken seriously, but yes, it's absolutely possible to rank them.

1 - USA. Without us the whole thing falls apart. Not even close.
2 - United Kingdom. Carries its weight and is powerful.
3 - Poland. Carries its weight and has absolutely no time for Russian bullshit. Surprisingly strong military.
4-6 - Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia in no particular order. Like Poland, only smaller.
7 - Greece. Spent a whopping 3.82% of GDP on defense in 2021.
8 - Canada. Doesn't meet defense spending targets, but can be counted on in a fight.
9-27 - Just rank all the remaining countries in order of defense spending, except for the bottom 3...
28 - France. Although they technically met their spending target in 2021, they're absolutely unreliable members who have pulled out of the NATO command structure for length periods in the past. I don't trust them to join in a serious conflict in any meaningful way. Maybe they'll prove me wrong, but past experience isn't reassuring.
29 - Hungary. At this point, basically run by Nazis.
30 - Turkey. Run by an absolute asshole, engaged in the occupation of Cyprus, hates and oppresses the Kurds, stalled entry of Finland and is still stalling entry of Sweden, not really a democracy at this point, too friendly with Russia too often, overall the odd man out and should get booted.

3/31/2023 9:08:35 AM

The Coz
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I know it wouldn't happen with Turkey unless circumstances became truly extreme, but are there established procedures to forcibly remove a member state?

3/31/2023 9:19:50 AM

emnsk
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I don't think there is any provision to do so, but if they really cared enough they could just interpret the preamble or purpose part in such a way to say that Turkey no longer fulfills their duty and thus doesn't deserve the rights given. I think some "international legal scholars" wrote some stuff on this

When it really comes down to it, nothing means much

3/31/2023 9:32:12 AM

0EPII1
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^^^^

What are the criteria?

In military power: Murrca #1
In public health system: Murrca #bottom

Just two examples; state your criteria!

4/1/2023 3:46:56 AM

emnsk
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^^^^
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnkyJmTub3J/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
appropriate

4/1/2023 11:29:13 AM

theDuke866
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^^ Well, I mean, NATO isn't a government-run healthcare alliance.

'Murrica is probably #1 is private healthcare or outright medical care capability...and that also has nothing to do with NATO.

4/2/2023 2:10:27 AM

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