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emnsk
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good morning everyone

[Edited on January 24, 2024 at 4:59 AM. Reason : I hope you all have a splendid day--that's it... that's the edit]

1/24/2024 4:59:17 AM

qntmfred
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what's good about it jk i hope you have a even more gooder morning

1/24/2024 6:49:56 AM

FroshKiller
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I have an appointment with my therapist this afternoon to go through my reasonable accommodation paperwork. My team has been successfully working remotely full time for four years, yet now the company is pushing this return-to-office bullshit on us. Our office has neither mask nor vaccination requirements and has made no improvements to air circulation. I'll be damned.

1/24/2024 7:27:47 AM

rjrumfel
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Thankfully I was hired as a remote employee. I don't have an office to go to even if they mandated in-office work.

At this point I don't know how my family's schedule would function if I had to go into the office.

1/24/2024 8:55:27 AM

The Coz
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^^FrOsHkIlLeR jUsT dOeSn'T wAnT tO wOrK aNyMoRe!

1/24/2024 9:31:51 AM

Kickstand
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Froshkiller, watch out for the company appointed therapist. It's a trap!

1/24/2024 9:43:43 AM

Bullet
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I didn't even know there were still companies that were operating on a full-time remote schedule.

1/24/2024 10:02:48 AM

fatcatt316
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You should Typhoid Mary them and go into the office sick as heck, coughing everywhere and getting snot on everything

1/24/2024 10:02:50 AM

emnsk
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Remote school was enough for me, I want to work fully in person man

I can see why you guys would given adult work, family, commute, etc. so nothing against that, but like
online school sucked the soul out of me for that time

[Edited on January 24, 2024 at 12:06 PM. Reason : 0]

1/24/2024 12:06:05 PM

emnsk
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^^^^^^^^

Thanks, I did have a good morning actually. Right now, I'm having a mediocre afternoon.

1/24/2024 1:38:58 PM

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^^sure

1/24/2024 2:01:19 PM

qntmfred
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perhaps this compilation of adorable animals will improve the quality of your afternoon

1/24/2024 3:12:06 PM

emnsk
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^POV: you're a poacher

lol. nice video though, I skipped through to see what animals they had. the baby deer look so frail! the koala looked old already, haha. I like the 'big cat' babies the best, they're so adorable

This reminds me... I haven't been to a zoo in a long long time. overdue

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"I have an appointment with my therapist this afternoon to go through my reasonable accommodation paperwork. My team has been successfully working remotely full time for four years, yet now the company is pushing this return-to-office bullshit on us. Our office has neither mask nor vaccination requirements and has made no improvements to air circulation. I'll be damned."


We're well into the afternoon! Hope it went well.

[Edited on January 24, 2024 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ffffffffffffr]

1/24/2024 3:31:51 PM

FroshKiller
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I think it went well. I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow morning to get him to fill out the paperwork, too. I don't know what to expect. I'm tired of being jerked around about stuff like this, though, and I'm liable to just fucking quit if my employer won't work with me.

1/24/2024 9:29:54 PM

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What accommodations do they need to complete?

1/24/2024 9:47:09 PM

FroshKiller
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I must be exempt from office attendance and travel with remote attendance options for any required event.

1/25/2024 7:37:12 AM

Kickstand
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What if they got one of these?

https://airhealth.com/in-duct-air-purifiers/#buyinducts

1/25/2024 8:50:48 AM

emnsk
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Are you immunocompromised or something like that?

I feel like I'm missing some context.

1/25/2024 8:52:29 AM

FroshKiller
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The third leading cause of death in the United States is an airborne, contagious disease. Even if you survive it, even if you are vaccinated, there is at least a 10% chance you will develop long-term symptoms that can be physically and mentally debilitating.

We are right now, today, experiencing a record surge in infections. My company has abandoned mask & vaccination requirements and has made no improvements to air circulation in our offices. They are now mandating at least one day per week be spent in the office with make-up days required if you miss coming in one week.

I'll be goddamned if I comply and put myself at risk of contracting that fucking disease when I and most of my co-workers have been successfully working fully remotely for four years. There is no advantage. Half the people I work with are on other continents. Most of my time is spent working alone or on Teams calls anyway. The vague advantages of "collaboration" and "team building" the executives allude to are smokescreens for a much more cynical business decision.

No company deserves to bet anyone's health like that.

1/25/2024 9:30:07 AM

emnsk
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You're confusing me cause you're phrasing this as if your company is the abnormal one here, while in a return to normal seems to be the standard nationwide (of course some things have permanently changed in how we operate, but that's something else).

Like if you were just making the case based on you don't need to be in person for your type of work (online meetings, other continents, etc.), but the health aspect?

Unless the air circulation issue they have is especially extreme, I still feel like I'm missing something here.

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"put myself at risk of contracting that fucking disease"


So are you saying you disagree with all the schools, colleges, retail, most work resuming standard operation? Do you think we should all resume mask wearing? Again, I'm just confused, cause I haven't seen anyone else bring this up anywhere.

[Edited on January 25, 2024 at 10:20 AM. Reason : also I'm not like trying to argue or anything, I'm just genuinely a bit confused]

1/25/2024 10:19:26 AM

FroshKiller
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I'm aware I am not being "normal." I wouldn't have to pursue an accommodation if I were "normal." See here where everyone marveled last year at the fact that I still take COVID seriously: message_topic.aspx?topic=653156&page=1#16637714

1/25/2024 10:21:24 AM

emnsk
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Okay, I see. Do you think we should be locking down again, or have mask mandates, or any response?

And also, out of interest. Do you have kids? And if so, doesn't that kind of throw the whole isolation of the window, with school and all? Can they go on playdates?

[Edited on January 25, 2024 at 10:39 AM. Reason : -]

1/25/2024 10:34:06 AM

TragicNature
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^4 Mask up, bruv.

1/25/2024 11:04:54 AM

emnsk
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^ is that the inside of the mask or the outside

1/25/2024 11:39:02 AM

FroshKiller
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I'm not going to pretend that I know the appropriate public health response at this point. But people who don't need to congregate shouldn't be congregating, and that includes people whose work can be done remotely.

My sister-in-law caught COVID over Christmas because she went to a family gathering. There was a rash of infections at work earlier this month because some folks went to a conference where someone else who'd been exposed attended without testing. Just 100% avoidable shit, and what are we doing? Oh, no, you don't have to wear a mask. Oh, yes, you really need to return to the office.

Anyway, no, I don't have kids. I don't think kids should be in school. Kids are little asymptomatic vectors who hug sick people then bring that shit home without telling you. If you have a kid and you send that kid to school, yeah, you're basically fucked. That doesn't mean I have to be around your ass, too. Stay home. I'll stay home, too, and we'll starve the fuckin' disease out a little more.

My brother has two kids. When their school was still doing remote classes, I told him he ought to pull them out if the school went back to requiring attendance, because they'd be better off missing a year or two of school than fucking themselves and/or their parents up with a potentially lifelong cognitive hit from long COVID.

I know, easy for me to say. But I still ain't caught that shit and ain't about to. It's taken hard choices to stay safe, and I haven't gone through that just for some fucking executive to fuck that up for me because he's worried the company will lose a tax break if they don't have enough people reporting to offices.

[Edited on January 26, 2024 at 1:22 AM. Reason : ...]

1/26/2024 1:22:16 AM

emnsk
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I would say I feel bad for you and the mentality you're making yourself live in, but that'd be wrong.
To go against our natural calling and belief denies us our own truth and reality.

One last question. What will it take for you to "come out again"? Because scientists say it's just gonna be endemic now, right?
At a certain point, wouldn't you agree that you're doing more to make your life abnormal then covid would do even if you got long covid?

1/26/2024 10:00:52 AM

emnsk
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Also, I just checked my profile. This is my 499th day on TWW, 500 tomorrow. Time goes by fast, eh

1/26/2024 10:03:56 AM

FroshKiller
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I'm gonna be abnormal one way or another. I'd rather be abnormal and able to breathe easily, move painlessly, & think clearly. I don't intend to ever go back to carrying on with going into a building with 200 other motherfuckers five days a week.

1/28/2024 12:00:52 PM

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so basically let everyone else die doing essential services for you, while you do nothing at all to contribute to society

sounds a bit like something you'd accuse someone else of, but ok

1/28/2024 12:03:36 PM

The Coz
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1/28/2024 1:33:29 PM

emnsk
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The facts tell me one thing, another set of facts tells me another, the basis for all the facts is subjective, and the subjectivity itself is factual.

Help

[Edited on January 28, 2024 at 9:45 PM. Reason : :|]

1/28/2024 9:43:00 PM

emnsk
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1776;

1/28/2024 11:08:06 PM

StTexan
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Quote :
" I'd rather be abnormal and able to breathe easily, move painlessly, & think clearly."


You could be normal and do these things as well

1/29/2024 12:25:44 AM

FroshKiller
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Eat my fucking ass.

1/29/2024 7:30:28 AM

emnsk
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I've always found that to be such a weird thing to say.

1/29/2024 9:24:09 AM

StTexan
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I always thought it was funny in hs when you’d ask “do you want a spoon” and the unsuspecting person was like “a spoon for what??” And then you were like “TO EAT MY ASSHOLE”

1/29/2024 9:09:49 PM

fatcatt316
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My brother worked with someone who (allegedly), if they unsuccessfully holla'd at a woman out their car window, would throw a plastic spoon at them and yell "If it's that damn good you can eat it yourself!"

1/30/2024 10:21:22 AM

StTexan
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Lol thats great

1/31/2024 8:46:25 PM

emnsk
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nice day

2/1/2024 8:54:30 PM

emnsk
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hello
-->
bye

2/4/2024 5:02:28 PM

emnsk
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Guten Morgen!

2/11/2024 6:38:10 AM

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