New Photo Gallery coming soon!

submitted by CrazyJ on Sunday, March 30 2003 at 6:47 PM

The long awaited updates to the Photo Gallery are finally nearing completion. The updates should be applied by the end of the week!

The updates mostly address performance and other boring stuff, but there are some new features as well. Captions can be added to photos! Folders will be available for premium users!

The updates aren't going to benefit everyone. Normal users will be limited to 50 pictures in their gallery. We will preserve all current pictures, but any user with over 50 will not be able to add until they delete pictures to drop below 50. Premium users will be also be limited to 50 pictures in their main gallery, but as mentioned before, will have the option to create unlimited folders with unlimited pictures!

We recommend anyone remotely interested to invest in a premium subscription. It is pretty cheap now, and you can be locked in forever at the rate at which you initially subscribe. Prices could go up at anytime. Don't say I didn't warn you!

UPDATE : The "My Gallery" and "Add Photos" section of the photo gallery are down so that we can apply the new updates!

posted by JAllen1127 on Sunday, March 30 2003 at 6:55 PM

I like!

[Edited on March 30, 2003 at 6:57 PM. Reason : Sometimes I'm so silly!]

3/30/2003 6:57:39 PM

FOLDERS!

so will there be options to move pics between galleries, or do we have to upload everytime?

[Edited on March 30, 2003 at 7:27 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2003 7:26:19 PM

ROCK! FINALLY MY PLEA WAS HEARD!!

3/30/2003 7:26:55 PM

you can already move between galleries with teh "add to my folder" link

3/30/2003 7:37:51 PM

Now, will only Premies be able to see the folders of the premies? Like can everyone see the "main gallery" but only Premies see the folders?

3/30/2003 7:38:48 PM

nice addition for premies

3/30/2003 7:50:07 PM

everyone can see all photos and folders

3/30/2003 8:04:36 PM

awesome, definitly nice to have some order to the Gallery

3/30/2003 8:35:26 PM

Great move.

3/30/2003 9:07:12 PM

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"with teh "add to my folder" link"

3/30/2003 9:10:15 PM

If premium member goes back to regular, do they maintain the folders and photos, but just can't add anymore?
Also, if they have all pics in a folder and none in the main gallery, does that give them 50 pics to add?
I don't think that makes any sense

3/30/2003 9:15:45 PM

if premium goes back to regular, they get all photos out of the folders dumped back into main gallery. if the number of photos is more than 50, they'll have to get rid of some before they can add

3/30/2003 9:56:42 PM

Ok, thats great. Thanks!

3/30/2003 10:07:36 PM

gg jake

3/30/2003 10:08:05 PM

thats crap. i need more pictures. and money is strictly for beer, gas, and surf wax.

3/30/2003 10:11:49 PM

dammit now I have to go premie

3/30/2003 10:20:33 PM

I agree, great move- saves you guys bandwidth, especially from those "few" that have [awholedamnlot] of pictures...

3/30/2003 11:18:14 PM

Nice. Methinks I'll go premium soon.

3/30/2003 11:53:28 PM

i wanna go premie.. but think of all those poor kids in Simolia that I'm paying 5 cents a day to make sure they get food...


maybe one day...

3/30/2003 11:57:36 PM

A 50 picture limit? That's insane. I have 286 now, all of which will be preserved. If I want to add some, do I have to delete them down to below 50 before I can add, or will I have to delete one for every one I want to add?

3/31/2003 12:16:30 AM

yeah, i'm in the same boat. i don't think we can gripe about it...we knew this was going to happen sooner or later.

3/31/2003 12:26:03 AM

yeah, no need to gripe. we knew it was coming.....

3/31/2003 1:28:19 AM

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"Premies"

is it me or does that sound kinda like semi-retarded early born individuals....

3/31/2003 1:52:33 AM

i feel sorry for the porn masters now

not really

3/31/2003 3:07:25 AM

how long does it take to have a prem. go through?

3/31/2003 6:11:11 AM

depends on whether or not jake or joe is around to process you...shouldnt take more than a day to a day and a half

3/31/2003 8:12:42 AM

Looks like it's time to invest in that premium membership.

3/31/2003 8:28:33 AM

theres gonna be an arms race..........who has the most folders!

3/31/2003 9:01:26 AM

fuckedy fuck fuck

Now I gotta move em all to a FREE WEBSPACE

3/31/2003 1:42:46 PM

yay!!!!

i :heart: CrazyJ

*dances*

3/31/2003 2:13:40 PM

Can I pay for my subscription by check or cash (I don't have a paypal account).

3/31/2003 2:18:20 PM

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"you can already move between galleries with teh "add to my folder" link"

teh!!!1

3/31/2003 3:27:55 PM

I think this will result in a few more premiums to begin with but it will eventually reduce TWW to a small message board only visited by the small group of hardcore members that are probably already premium. People that actually post, or regularly post anyway, are a tiny tiny percentage of TWW members, the vast majority just use it as a place to store pics and with a 50 picture limit people will move elsewhere for their picture storage and eventually there will be no reason for anyone except the tiny percentage of members that actually post to visit TWW anymore. I know that I, for example, only found out about TWW through a link to a friend's TWW photo gallery in their AIM profile.

3/31/2003 3:34:31 PM

I think 100 pics for non premies would be a little better.

3/31/2003 5:49:24 PM

i've thought about that. we will evaluate it as we go.

currently the gallery is approaching being unmanageable just because of the size, concurrency, and bandwidth requirements. we have obviously had some problems with it . hopefully the new policies will cut down on the problem and give us a little more cash to deal with fixing the remains of the problem.

obviously, i don't want to alienate users. i think 50 pictures is a reasonable limit. if it turns out other people don't agree, they will leave, and I will have to rethink it.

3/31/2003 6:19:39 PM

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"it will eventually reduce TWW to a small message board only visited by the small group of hardcore members that are probably already premium. People that actually post, or regularly post anyway, are a tiny tiny percentage of TWW members,"

I see nothing at all wrong with this. I would love it. I'm sick of the overcrowding.

3/31/2003 7:05:10 PM

exactly. if people are using tdub just to host their pics, and not actually posting, then they've just been taking advantage of j and joe's bandwidth.

3/31/2003 7:21:54 PM

we have no problem that people that rarely post and have a lot of pictures, as long as they don't have hundreds of pictures. probably most of the posts on TWW today would be better left unsaid .

the users taking advantage of us are the ones with thousands of posts that give nothing back. but who cares anyway, TWW is supposed to be *FUN*, not a huge debate over who is getting the better deal from a mostly free service

3/31/2003 7:47:36 PM

I think I should get a free premium subscription :-) I've paid what 40 50 60 bucks in ad views? <G> j/k

3/31/2003 7:50:04 PM

This is why you need unlimited bandwidth at your colocation provider! :-)

3/31/2003 7:54:35 PM

WHY DONT YOU SORRY SACKS OF SHIT JUST SUBSCRIBE SOS YOU CAN GET TEH L33T FOLDARS??!?11

3/31/2003 8:18:24 PM

i guess the intentions of the wolfweb inc. have changed

3/31/2003 8:25:05 PM

at least people have the CHOICE of whether to pay for our services.

anyway, no one will be able to add to the photo gallery for a while. I locked it for the migration to the new gallery. assuming all goes well, it should be done in a few hours.

3/31/2003 8:44:01 PM

i generally like the idea and i mean if u aren't will to give up a few dollars to help support the site then ahy shoudl they give you space for more than 50 pictues?

3/31/2003 9:29:08 PM

this transfer is taking forever. will probably be tomorrow morning before it's done

3/31/2003 10:12:20 PM

I guess my thing with premium is if I could actually pay $3 a month/ per month or something, I'd drive it to a drop box or whatever. Its rare that I actually have a lump sum at the same time...and then I always talk myself out of it. Perhaps a month to month basis is too much to deal with, but thats my ideal, especially where Pay Pal wouldn't automatically take it out...or you get that option.


I don't see what would be bad about people who just store pictures leaving? I mean, there account won't be erased until a mass cleaning, which I don't see happening anytime soon. Its not like anyone would notice or really know they "left"

3/31/2003 10:31:43 PM

will we be able to search the gallery by captions?

3/31/2003 10:59:49 PM

will we be able to have folders inside of folders or will they just be one layer deep?

3/31/2003 11:02:43 PM

no, and no

but the idea behind captions is that they will eventually be searchable.. just not yet

and the folders inside folders would be abused... admit it . i could imagine a massive directory tree with a secret path to get through it

3/31/2003 11:09:48 PM

i like pictures

3/31/2003 11:30:18 PM

yay for the new photo gallery! great idea!

3/31/2003 11:36:16 PM

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"and the folders inside folders would be abused... admit it . i could imagine a massive directory tree with a secret path to get through it"

damn...you mean i wont be able to have that 400 level deep tree with only one picture in each of the bottom folders?

3/31/2003 11:51:17 PM

AWESOME... I suggested a few of these features (the captions were my suggestion from way back!)

4/1/2003 12:19:26 AM

if DZ puts nude pics of herself in a premie gallery i might sign up for premium.....

4/1/2003 12:31:22 AM

[no] and [no]

jake you're so fucking l33t dude

4/1/2003 12:48:50 AM

I have a few photo's in my gallery now that don't belong...It's cool and all - just funny.
Now I have to start trimming these down below 50 if I want to add any more...

4/1/2003 10:10:11 AM

Folders are working it's great. thanks guys

4/1/2003 10:30:46 AM

this is the greatest premium advantage EVER!

4/1/2003 10:48:20 AM

so when can we add captions?

4/1/2003 10:48:31 AM

and can u edit the folder title after it's been made?

4/1/2003 10:52:42 AM

i just made my first folder

4/1/2003 11:01:48 AM

when u go to the photo gallery, where it has your number of photos, it doesn't count the ones in folders

4/1/2003 11:10:23 AM

can you edit the captions of photos that are already loaded?

4/1/2003 11:24:18 AM

YAY! now people can look at my gallery without their comp crashing!!!!!

4/1/2003 11:41:29 AM

Great improvement!!! If I sell my car on here I'll go premium!

4/1/2003 1:10:36 PM

we still are having some issues, but are fixings bugs each hour

4/1/2003 1:42:02 PM

can you edit the captions of photos that are already loaded?



yeah, what he said

4/1/2003 4:08:05 PM

Explain to me how to add captions to existing pictures in my gallery.

4/1/2003 5:26:51 PM

I totally agree with the fact that people will be limited to 50 pictures if they have a FREE membership. Okay, so maybe 100 would be a better number, I don't know. But it's pretty fair if you're not paying any money for it! If you want to post hundreds of pictures, it should cost you a little bit of money.

4/1/2003 5:57:04 PM

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"If I sell my car on here I'll go premium!"

Does your car cost you $3.33 a month like TWW?

4/1/2003 9:25:34 PM

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"Explain to me how to add captions to existing pictures in my gallery"

4/1/2003 10:35:17 PM

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""Explain to me how to add captions to existing pictures in my gallery""

ditto on that

4/2/2003 1:44:43 AM

yay! all organized... but it shows me as having 0 photos from the photo gallery main page... weird

4/2/2003 9:00:06 AM

I know I'm a noob but I figured what the hell, these guys are doing a good job with this site so why not support them.

4/2/2003 5:00:20 PM

Soooooo.............what about adding captions to pictures that already exist?

4/3/2003 3:30:51 AM

ask much? he's busy give him some time....

plus this thread is getting answered much faster than any of the ones in the feedback forum (some of which may not be worth replying to ^_^) so dont' take for granted the fact that he's answering so quickly.

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

have i said i love my new gallery yet? i love my new gallery

4/3/2003 5:38:56 AM

I take it I have to re-upload to add captions to the pictures already in my gallery, right?

4/5/2003 7:13:35 AM

#$%#$%#$@%#$% yah yah yah yah yah

4/5/2003 12:09:32 PM

4/5/2003 8:51:40 PM

I signed up just recently (as a member) and I gotta ask: Before this photo gallery update/upgrade was there a limit of 50 pictures for regular members?

4/6/2003 4:21:11 PM

no- there was no limit. some people had like a thousand pictures.

4/6/2003 4:22:26 PM

the only persons who had over 1000 pictures were premium...

4/6/2003 4:41:27 PM

k

4/6/2003 4:54:27 PM

See, that's what I thought and that kind of pisses me off because the main reason I paid to register was for the photo storage.

4/6/2003 5:12:10 PM

^^^looks like you got some good stuff too

4/6/2003 5:54:19 PM

Well, it looks like you got plenty of pictures up there before the picture limit went into effect. I'm in the dorm and it took about a full minute for all the pictures to download.

4/6/2003 10:38:23 PM

That isn't the point. Now I'll have to delete down to 50 images if I ever want to add another one.

4/6/2003 11:30:16 PM

its not like there arent free picture storage places out there...

4/6/2003 11:45:21 PM

The reason I don't use the ones out there is:

A. They are slow and have massive problems.
B. When you upload your pictures they usually have VERY large URLs on them.
C. The setup only allows you to upload one or two pictures at once.
D. Awful limits.
and most of all...
E. The images will not load if you post the URLs within (HTML) code on message boards, websites, etc.

The last reason is really what I use picture hosts for and why I wanted one. There are many out there that will allow you to create free photo albums, but I want something I can use to store my pics for show in other locations.

This is the main reason I paid for an account here: Unlimited photo storage for photos that would load in other locations. I also like the layout, the site isn't slow and there aren't a ton of ads. You can also load a ton of pictures at once.

The photo hosting isn't the only reason I paid to be a member here. The community atmosphere also was a reason, but, without the unlimited photo hosting promised with an account a few weks ago when I signed up, I probably wouldn't have had enough reason to pay the fee and sign up.

If you you of any FREE photo storage sites that match up with the specifications I outlined above, please tell me.

4/7/2003 12:44:58 AM

pm hassell. he has sweet deals on web hosting. it's probably cheaper for you to get your own web space and keep your pictures there.

4/7/2003 9:26:54 AM

thats just shitty....you shouldn't have to pay to have more than 50 photos...the wolfweb shouldn't be about making people pay!

4/7/2003 4:09:26 PM

do you guys think bandwidth and storage space fucking grows on trees? talk about losing money -- why don't you take a geuss at how much money and time CrazyJ and Joe have sunk into this money pit called TWW, and see if you don't think they deserve a little bit in return. Keep in mind that every picture you put on their server costs money just to hold it, and everytime someone accesses that picture through a link or if you post the URL on another site/message board, it costs money to actually send the picture from the server to another computer.

TWW is not about making people pay, but take a look at you two - pharterBDB and UNCriminals - judging from your post counts, you have contributed virtually nothing to the TWW community, and I would venture to geuss that you have never clicked on an ad. If you want free picture hosting, there are plenty of sites out there where you will find slow loading, size restrictions, tons of ads, big watermarks, etc. but you can't expect to get something for nothing all the time...

4/7/2003 9:19:52 PM

sorry man...didn't realize there was that much involved...my knowledge of computers is very limited...no harm intended..

4/7/2003 11:30:58 PM

Wow, I had no idea that spending hours and hours on end posting on the forum and having a hundred, or even thousand rating was a requirement.

I see where THEWOLFWEB is coming from. I KNOW bandwidth and storage are expensive. My problem is that I JUST signed up for an account for the reasons I have already outlined and now they out a limit on pictures? I feel ripped off.

If I had delayed in making my choice to pay the fee and sign up here and this limit had been assigned before I had the change to sign up--I wouldn't have.

I have already said that the main reason I paid the fee and joined was because of the photo hosting--not the forum.

If you had read, AgentLion, the main reason I signed up here was because the photo hosting met the requirements I've been looking for. The reason I DON'T use photo sites is because of all the problems you just listed, which if you had looked above, you would have seen I already went through.

Pharter: There is no reason to apologize to this guy in anyway, shape or form. Amount of MESSAGE BOARD posts has nothing to do with anything.

Bobby: Thanks for the advice. I might PM that guy.

[Edited on April 8, 2003 at 4:56 AM. Reason : Misread What Bobby said.]

4/8/2003 4:55:03 AM

i knew you were going to comment on the post count thing -- obviously spending hours on here is not some kind of "requirement." my only point is, what good is it for you to host pictures here and just post the URLs on other pages for them to steal TWWs B/W. That does not increase TWWs exposure at all. and i read your demands for a photo hosting site, and i'm just saying, you're not going to find one like that because of the simple fact that there is no money in it. Maybe 3-4 years ago you would have found some good deals where you got something for nothing, but those times are over - people/companies on the internet are actually trying to make a profit now.

I geuss you are not an NCSU student if you had to pay for registration for this site. What is it - $5? Yeah, that's too bad the rules were changed right after you signed up, but come one.... 5 freakin' dollars. You signed up about 24 days ago and now hold 370 pictures in your gallery. So you have paid about 1.3 cents per picture or .0005 cents/picture/day. big loss... it's also worth pointing out that the only reason you have to pay $5 to sign up w/o an NCSU email address is to discourage people from creating new accounts if, for example, they have been suspended from the message boards. The $5 is not supposed to be a money maker.

i would also encourage you to contact hassell about web space, but if you won't pay $25 for premium membership here, you probably won't pay $35 for web space from him. He offers students (at least NCSU students, i don't know about other schools) 150MB of storage plus 50 email addresses for $35/year, which is one hell of a web hosting deal - you'd be lucky to find other services for $35/month (i host 3 sites with him). You will have an IP address, but you will have to buy a domain name for ~$8/year (from godaddy.com) if you want an easy to remember address for your pictures. Plus you will have to create your own webpages and such, or download some database code for photo galleries, which requires knowledge html, databases, scripts, etc.

So your options are now pay $25 for premium membership and get unlimited picture hosting here, pay $35+$8+development time and effort for your own webpage and gallery, or go somewhere else for crappy (but free) picture hosting.

4/8/2003 12:04:12 PM

pwnt

4/8/2003 4:42:15 PM

It isn't "stealing" their bandwidth if they allow pictures to be loaded from other locations. I also wouldn't say it doesn't increase their "exposure." Afterall, "The Wolf Web" is clearly stamped at the buttom corner of every picture. The reason I paid the fee and signed up here was because I had actually found something here like I wanted.

I would have been more than glad to pay more than $5.00 for the unlimited photo storage offered before. It's pointless that I have 370 pictures in my gallery seeing as I'll have to delete well over half of those if I ever want to add anymore. I wouldn't mind paying the $25.00 premium membership fee if it wasn't just for a year. Yes, that's still very cheap, but it's the principle that I signed up for unlimited photo hosting in the gallery for $5.00 and now I'll have to be $25.00 to get what I got along with my $5.00 just a few weeks ago. I may end up paying the $25.00. I haven't decided yet.

4/8/2003 7:42:13 PM

Yes, but who give a crap about "exposure" when that's not your goal. The point is, this is a community-oriented message board that had the added benefit of having a photo-gallery. This used to be unlimited, but in order to be able to pay the bills, only users who actually have an interest in the site get unlimited benefits. I don't host many pictures here because that's not the intent of the site. I have a hosting service (the aformentioned deal) and use it. I come here when I want to post text messages for thousands of random people to see.

4/29/2003 4:49:14 PM