NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1

11/16/2009 11:46:42 AM

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"Also, Americans in general clueless about the history of slavery."

please, enlighten us bigun20

11/16/2009 11:58:17 AM

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"maybe its suggesting the same as lyrics in some of todays music that fall along the lines of 'kill whitey' or 'dont trust the white man' etc? same coin, other side."

that's gold, Jerry, gold.

11/16/2009 12:07:57 PM

^^

11/16/2009 11:56:41 PM

so does the fact that a lot of people had slaves somehow excuse it?

pretty simple question.

11/17/2009 12:00:12 AM

not to mention it is currently believed that the pyramids were not built with slave labor

but lol funny pic!!!

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 8:32 AM. Reason : *]

11/17/2009 8:32:14 AM

The Exodus isn't even historically verified, from what I've seen. Sort of throws a wrench into the whole Zionist agenda thing...

11/17/2009 8:34:20 AM

^^ you can parse words however you want... coerced servitude... slavery... whatever.

if you don't think that the early civilizations used slaves, you're hopelessly naive

11/17/2009 9:01:05 AM

I CANT SING DIXIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/17/2009 9:13:23 AM

^^ Of course they used slavery, but a little research would show you that it's currently held that the majority of workers were farmers taking time during the dry season to build the pyramids. They were paid, fed, and the most of the time their complaints revolved around beer and eye makeup shortages.

Sure slaves were involved, but considering the culture building something for the Pharoah would have been a pretty high honor for a slave.

[Edited on November 17, 2009 at 9:24 AM. Reason : .]

11/17/2009 9:24:05 AM

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"^^ you can parse words however you want... coerced servitude... slavery... whatever. if you don't think that the early civilizations used slaves, you're hopelessly naive"

do a little research you bumbling fuckwit.

There is strong evidence to suggest workers on the great pyramids were citizens who were compensated and cared for greatly during the construction process. They weren't forced into the labor.

Hence posting a picture of the pyramids as a result of slave labor is something someone about level to your intellect would do.

Im not suprised though. Somehow you come out thinking i said no civilizations used slaves. You're sharp as a bowling ball aren't you.

11/17/2009 11:12:14 AM

Ok well we'll just substitute the white house or Capitol Hill for the pyramids on that t-shirt, then.

11/17/2009 11:50:06 AM

And you'd be just as big of a fucking idiot for doing that.

11/17/2009 1:20:29 PM

so what sort of shit DID slavery get done, then?

11/18/2009 12:19:18 AM

it kept the southern economy alive, thats one thing.

11/18/2009 11:32:59 AM

which in turn kept the northern economy booming. all that cotton was going somewhere.

11/18/2009 11:50:19 AM

Everybody was wearing Hanes jockey shorts.

11/18/2009 11:50:50 AM

This oughta be good...

The KKK apparently will be on campus at Ole Miss on Saturday lodging a rally to gain support against not including the line in the song and/or not playing the song.

They better play it again I guess...

might upset somebody

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"Shane Tate, the North Mississippi great titan for the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, confirmed via e-mail the KKK will rally on Ole Miss’ campus in protest of the Ole Miss Chancellor Dan Jones’ decision to remove “From Dixie with Love” from the Ole Miss band’s song selection. “We are coming to Ole Miss to say enough is enough on attacking our Christian, southern heritage and culture, and it’s time for every person to have a right to freedom of speech,” Tate said. “We aren’t coming there to cause problems or cause trouble,” Tate said. “Trouble has already been caused by a handful at Ole Miss, including the black student body president, who wants to shape Ole Miss into yet another liberal sodomite college.”"

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 4:49 PM. Reason : sweet... it's gonna be in full robes too!]

11/19/2009 4:44:32 PM

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" LIBERAL SODOMITE COLLEGE "

11/19/2009 4:58:31 PM

Now they want to call "The South Shall Rise Again" an attack on their Christian freedom? Holy fuck who are they kidding?

I'm all for them picketing, but that's just fucking stupid.

11/19/2009 5:00:39 PM

ahha.hahahahaha

that klansman just couldn't resist the urge to tie "liberalism" with sodomy. he almost made a decent point about free speech, and then just fucked it all up by railing against a black student and equating a liberal education with sodomy.


hahaha..ooohhhh man that's rich.



reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4WoAnty748&feature=player_embedded#t=1m10s

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""Anybody ever been down south? So you guys know what I'm talking about. Now the racism down there is just perfect. It's stewed to a perfection. It's comfortable, it's out in the open. There are no secrets in Mississippi. Everybody knows the deal.""

-- Dave Chappelle

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 5:33 PM. Reason : ]

11/19/2009 5:26:30 PM

the only sodomy going on at universities is what you have to pay in order to attend one.

11/19/2009 10:20:43 PM

If there's one thing that black southerners love, it's sodomy.

11/20/2009 1:34:49 AM

from what i understand about the argument of the original thread

it's this whole "the south will rise again" thing

well....

maybe the south WILL rise again

perhaps it will be in technology or slip n slides

or maybe they're just talking about confederate flag sales

--

my hope is that one day, we'll lead the country in technology, textiles and agriculture without having to refer to the "lost cause" cause we'll be "THE cause" to contribute to

GIVE US A CAUSE

and we'll find a fixn to it

there ain't no reason to hold on to the confederacy, cause we're doing thing better inthe south than anyone elsewhere is doing it

the bars and stars is cool, but we're doing better things these days under old glory

11/20/2009 1:46:28 AM

I find all of this alittle sad and pathetic. Hanging on to a shitty battle flag used by a "nation" that lasted for a few pathetic years alittle stupid.

the south may rise again but not in any sense used in this stupid song.

11/20/2009 12:02:47 PM

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"There is strong evidence to suggest workers on the great pyramids were citizens who were compensated and cared for greatly during the construction process. They weren't forced into the labor."

This is true. I knew a couple Egyptologists in grad school and took one class in Egyptology and this was one of the first things they cleared up. They were largely free labor.

11/20/2009 2:09:28 PM

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"If there's one thing that black southerners love, it's sodomy."

gg

11/20/2009 5:11:28 PM

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"I knew a couple Egyptologists in grad school and took one class in Egyptology and this was one of the first things they cleared up. They were largely free labor."

yeah, but were bid required to be at prevailing wages? I dont think so.

"right-to-work" state, my ass. More like, "Right To Get Fired" state, amirite? AMIRITE???

11/21/2009 2:25:46 AM

AHA, dude at da bank was tryna take his break and his co-workers was chidin him bout our right-to-work status.

11/21/2009 4:08:51 AM

But, seriously, though. I have a strong affinity for the American South.

Y'all may be familiar with the song, "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down." It was written by that dude in the Band, and here is quote commonly attributed to him about the song:

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""When I first went down South, I remember that a quite common expression would be, 'Well don't worry, the South's gonna rise again.' At one point when I heard it I thought it was kind of a funny statement and then I heard it another time and I was really touched by it. I thought, 'God, because I keep hearing this, there's pain here, there is a sadness here.' In Americana land, it's a kind of a beautiful sadness.""

http://wapedia.mobi/en/The_Night_They_Drove_Old_Dixie_Down

I don't know if the quote is real or not, but it aptly sums up how I prefer to think about phrases like, "The South's gonna rise again." It's a little twisted, I know.

That said, these UMiss douchebags aren't expressing a touching sadness. The few students who insisted on continuing with the chant were well within their right to do so just like the head honchos got the right to not play the song since the kids can't act right.

11/21/2009 4:46:28 AM

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/nov/20/klan-set-to-stand-for-rebel-fight-song/?partner=yahoo_feeds

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"Ku Klux Klan plans rally at Ole Miss to stand for Rebel fight song 'It's freedom of speech,' KKK leader maintains By Phil West Posted November 20, 2009 at 12:03 a.m. OXFORD, Miss. -- The Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan plan a rally before Saturday's LSU-Ole Miss football game to protest Chancellor Dan Jones' decision to bar the school band from playing "From Dixie with Love," a medley that some fans finish by shouting, "The South shall rise again." Jones ordered the band on Nov. 17 to stop playing the medley that blends "Dixie," the Confederate Army's fight song, with the Union Army's "Battle Hymn of the Republic." The band has played the song during Ole Miss football games for about 20 years. Jones said the chant supports "those outside our community who would advocate a revival of segregation." Jones' decision has stirred up the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which plans a 10 a.m. rally in front of the Fulton Chapel before the 2:30 p.m. start of the game. "This is not a white or black issue at all. It's freedom of speech. They've got a right to say what they want at the game," said Shane Tate of Tupelo, the KKK's North Mississippi great titan. Tate said his group, part of the Southern Alliance of Klans, which claims more than 7,000 members, plans a short, peaceful demonstration. "I'm just going to bring a few guys, show up and get our message across and then leave," he said. Tate said he expects between 20 and 100 Klan members to participate. He said his group does not allow Nazis or Skinheads, who are considered more violent segregationists than the modern-day KKK. "We're Christians," he said. In a press release announcing the rally, the organization said Jones' decision was an "attack on our Southern heritage and culture." "This is a direct violation of the right to freedom of speech and will only continue because a handful of people at Ole Miss want to force change on the University of Mississippi that destroy the culture and heritage on the Ole Miss campus," the news release said. "Ole Miss should embrace its Southern heritage and culture and reject the liberal Communist revolution that is taking place." University officials plan no changes in security as a result of the KKK rally, Ole Miss spokesman Mitchell Diggs said. He noted that on-campus security already will be heavy because the LSU game is one of the best-attended of the football season. "

Only Ended up being about a dozen KKK members at the rally though...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091121/ap_on_sp_co_ne/fbc_changing_dixie

11/22/2009 1:42:40 PM

regarding the ignorance of the history of slavery, I'll throw in that the border states, specifically MD and DE, still had legalized slavery after Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation - which only freed slaves in the states of secession.

Not really to backup/deny anybody's point, but a lot of folks do not realize this little tidbit of info.

11/22/2009 1:48:42 PM

christian extremist terrorists

11/22/2009 3:46:12 PM

^^^ hmm wait a second, is that the confederate battle flag that those white supremacists are flying?

11/22/2009 3:51:54 PM

^^^^ That’s sure to help the case for the song staying the same.

11/22/2009 4:55:59 PM

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""Ole Miss should embrace its Southern heritage and culture and reject the liberal Communist revolution that is taking place.""

When you don't understand big words like "liberal" and "communist," string them together to make 'em sound baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. Kinda like "homosexual cheeseburger" or "nuclear option."

11/22/2009 6:01:03 PM

LOL the guy in black has a skull and crossbones on his outfit.

he's a KKK Pirate.

now all he needs is a laser.

11/22/2009 6:41:14 PM

ALL I ASKED FOR IS A KLANSMAN WITH A FRICKEN' LASER BEAM ATTACHED TO HIS HEAD.

11/22/2009 7:15:43 PM

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"hmm wait a second, is that the confederate battle flag that those white supremacists are flying?"

Technically, no. The Confederate battle flag was square, not rectangular. The hilarity of it all is that these hillbillies aren't even using the right flag

11/23/2009 8:10:27 AM

They always use the rectangular flag as it's the one that'll illicit the reaction they're looking to get. If they went around using the confederate national flag, they'd have a bunch of confused minorities instead of the pissed off minorities that they want.

11/23/2009 8:20:27 AM

Stupid racists don't even know their flags aren't historically accurate! Dumbasses can't even adhere to our expectations!

Not everyone who has "Southern Pride" glorifies the confederacy or hates people who are different. Some people simply take pride in their community and their conservatism. The "confederate" flag is one way to show that pride. It's just unfortunate that the same sympbols are often accompanied by stupidity and racist attitudes.

11/23/2009 9:07:28 AM

there are plenty of other good ways to show your pride that don't involve the confederate flag. why not do something else, something that doesn't raise racial sensitivity?

11/23/2009 9:12:34 AM

why not find something better to do than telling people what flag they can use?

maybe educate the simpletons that are overly-sensitive to a flag that doesn't actually represent what they have come to think it does?

and yes those simpletons include the racists too

[Edited on November 23, 2009 at 9:18 AM. Reason : *]

11/23/2009 9:17:17 AM

holy crap what an amazingly derailed logic train you have there...

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"maybe educate the simpletons that are overly-sensitive to a flag that doesn't actually represent what they have come to think it does?"

If they've come to think it represents something that's offensive to them, that makes them simpletons? Most people are aware of what the Nazi swastika and Soviet/Chinese hammer and sickle represent... does that make capitalists simpletons for disliking the values and way of life associated with those flags? Perhaps you're missing the point. Symbols mean whatever they mean to people. You can't decide for someone how they interpret them. And they're not stupid for interpreting them differently than you or I.

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"why not find something better to do than telling people what flag they can use?"

This thread is about singing a lyric in a school spirit song, not about flags, anyway.

11/23/2009 9:31:49 AM

You can't expect people to abandon a part of their heritage for the sake of racial sensitivity.

The confederate flag is not an inherrently racist symbol, but racists will always use it. Thus, asking reasonable people to abandon it would turn it into a symbol of racism.

11/23/2009 9:32:47 AM

Reasonable people can also recognize when something they're doing harms someone else, and know when to stop. Reasonable people learn, understand and adapt to things that have changed. Reasonable people don't live in the past.

11/23/2009 9:39:47 AM

Exactly. No reasonable person should be associating this chant with racism.

11/23/2009 9:55:41 AM

Hahaha Lumex would make a great lawyer he's intellectually dishonest enough for the task

11/23/2009 11:45:56 AM

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"If they've come to think it represents something that's offensive to them, that makes them simpletons? Most people are aware of what the Nazi swastika and Soviet/Chinese hammer and sickle represent... does that make capitalists simpletons for disliking the values and way of life associated with those flags? Perhaps you're missing the point. Symbols mean whatever they mean to people. You can't decide for someone how they interpret them. And they're not stupid for interpreting them differently than you or I."

how did i know the first thing you would go to would be the Nazis

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"Symbols mean whatever they mean to people. You can't decide for someone how they interpret them. And they're not stupid for interpreting them differently than you or I."

remember this next time you get an ingrown hair in your vagina when you see someone with the confederate flag. Then go find something more constructive to do than getting offended and annoying everyone.

11/23/2009 3:46:19 PM

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"The confederate flag is not an inherrently racist symbol, but racists will always use it. Thus, asking reasonable people to abandon it would turn it into a symbol of racism. "

It is inherently treasonous though, so people who like the confederate flag are traitors to America, are terrorists, and should be locked up and tortured in Gitmo along with our communist president.

11/23/2009 7:10:10 PM