AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
| NC State (21-11) | | | vs | | | Seton Hall (21-11) | |
| Thursday, March 15th, 4:30pm TV: TBS |
GO STATE!
#astralengine4STMod
[Edited on March 12, 2018 at 10:36 AM. Reason : ]3/12/2018 10:36:31 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Eff it all. Of course it's literally the only time slot on Thursday/Friday that overlaps my daughter's soccer practice. 3/12/2018 10:59:29 AM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Drop her off early with bus fare. 3/12/2018 11:02:32 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Wheel it out
3/12/2018 11:24:45 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
literally the one time slot i teach on thursdsy or friday 3/12/2018 11:26:49 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
perfect time for a basketball game, bartscott.gif 3/12/2018 11:45:59 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
fuck em up pack 3/12/2018 11:51:06 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
We are gonna get blowd 3/12/2018 12:02:47 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds nice 3/12/2018 12:06:14 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Get it to Yurt7 inside and let him score at will, let Al drive and get FTs and contain Rodriguez. That's the simple explanation of how to win. 3/12/2018 12:58:08 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Don't feel good about this one. BC exposed how bad we struggle with big guards who can drive, even if Seton Hall's may not be as quick as Robinson and Bowman 3/12/2018 1:05:31 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
They live off points inside the arc. I doubt they get those against us.
They don't shoot threes at all. That's our main weakness defensively.
Defensively they are horrid.
They are hopelessly tall and have zero depth.
I like NC State vs the spread. This has all the makings of a 30+ point game that might only be a 15 point spread. 3/12/2018 2:13:26 PM |
Clifton All American 4711 Posts user info edit post |
They sounded like an FSU-like team. ^if that's true, that's coincides with that... 3/12/2018 2:37:17 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^ hook, line and sinker. 3/12/2018 2:38:30 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
the meme lives 3/12/2018 3:27:43 PM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
for those that can't watch live, I had planned to get a free trial of youtube tv and use their dvr function to record to watch later.
However my work trip was cancelled due to snow so now I am free to watch the game! 3/12/2018 3:56:47 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " BC exposed how bad we struggle with big guards who can drive" |
BC didn't expose that. that's long been our problem3/12/2018 4:22:40 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They live off points inside the arc. I doubt they get those against us.
They don't shoot threes at all. That's our main weakness defensively.
Defensively they are horrid.
They are hopelessly tall and have zero depth.
I like NC State vs the spread. This has all the makings of a 30+ point game that might only be a 15 point spread." |
I was searching for this but you already beat me. well done.3/12/2018 4:47:01 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Still makes me laugh every time, though I'm not sure why. 3/12/2018 5:01:31 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
the line "they are hopelessly tall" cracks me up a lot 3/12/2018 5:03:32 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
They let me down in the ACC tourny but please win at least a game in the NCAA’s. 3/12/2018 9:14:03 PM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Skeet Skeet Keatt Keatt mothafuckers! 3/12/2018 9:16:13 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
2 point dogs 3/12/2018 11:13:34 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
538 only gives us a 37% chance of winning 3/13/2018 4:54:54 AM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
Survive and Advance!!
[Edited on March 13, 2018 at 8:56 AM. Reason : d] 3/13/2018 8:55:46 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
538 is wrong 3/13/2018 9:35:53 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
From the 20 minutes I've seen Seton Hall play all year (and the 10 minutes I've spent researched them), there are some good and bad things abotu the matchup.
GOOD - They don't have a true PG and struggle with TOs. Their own fans say their team has a low bball IQ and struggle with pressure. This could play right into our hands.
BAD - They're good, not great, on the offensive boards (led Big East is 2nd chance points). I'm not sure how much of a negative this really is though. For whatever reason, when we KNOW a team is dominant on the offensive glass, we seem to box-out and rebound much better as a whole. (Duke comes to mind; and UNC in the first game)
WORTH MENTIONING -- They are way more experienced than us. They have 4-5 seniors who helped redefine Seton Hall bball. They'll obviously want to end their college careers on a high note. This might or might not be a good thing. They'll play balls out, no doubt, but it might force them to press things a little too much.
SUMMARY - Assuming we stay sound fundamentally, I have a pretty good feeling about this one. 3/13/2018 9:48:07 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^We have 4 seniors too pal! Though 2 are one-year mercenaries and 2 come off the bench. 3/13/2018 10:06:02 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever, Abu has forgotten more about basketball than Seton Hall's guys will ever know! Now if he could just remember some of it......
Folks, thank you, I'll be here all week, tip your waitstaff 3/13/2018 10:08:07 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
seems like we could turn seton hall over with some success...statistically they aren't great at taking care of the ball. they turn it over on 17.5% of possessions....that's 141 nationally. 3/13/2018 10:16:23 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
we gonna lose 3/13/2018 11:06:57 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^That's the beautiful thing, it doesn't really matter if we lose. No one expected us to make the tournament before the season started, so we've been playing with "house money" for weeks now.
[Edited on March 13, 2018 at 11:25 AM. Reason : .] 3/13/2018 11:25:15 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
based on youtube scouting, their guards arent much of a threat. theyre more andre millers than the guys that kill us
delgado is probably the guy we need to worry about. that and the donk off the bench who plays 8 minutes per game but will score double digits 3/13/2018 11:30:14 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
They gotta guard us too, pal 3/13/2018 11:41:36 AM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it doesn't really matter if we lose" |
3/13/2018 11:59:58 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Are we getting some tournament alternate jerseys or have the shoes companies scrapped those this season? 3/13/2018 12:32:30 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Adidas using all that money for legal fees instead.
I don't think they will be able to out rebound Yurt7 with a 6'10" guy. If Yurt7 can stay out of foul trouble and stretch his guy out to the 3, we should eat them up with dribble penetration with Al and Dorn.
All depends on how this game gets officiated. Rodrigez will be the main one to shut down.
I watched about 5 of their games and they are very bipolar, some games they look stout, other games they look more lost than helen keller in a corn maze. 3/13/2018 1:21:09 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I don't think they will be able to out rebound Yurt7 with a 6'10" guy. " |
they shouldn't be able to...but teams have done it against us this year several times it seems.3/13/2018 1:25:11 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Yurt can't do it all. We're at a natural disadvantage on the boards only having one big out there most of the time.
[Edited on March 13, 2018 at 1:31 PM. Reason : He only averages 7 per game and has double digit rebounds just a handful of games]] 3/13/2018 1:30:19 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I'm starting to think after watching Seton Halls last few games, that Markell will have double digit assists on pick and roll...Seton Hall is a little slow in terms of their guards and their big man is undersized.
If the January NCSU team shows up, Seton Hall and Kansas will fall. 3/13/2018 1:53:57 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
the one that lost to nd by 30 3/13/2018 1:56:36 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Remember when Abu used to be good less terrible at rebounding without fouling? 3/13/2018 2:00:56 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
I remember when he was good at rebounding. Didn't he nearly average a double double? 3/13/2018 2:37:11 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Had a lot more rebound chances with Maverick Rowan bricking threes constantly. 3/13/2018 3:11:49 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^hey, did you see this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZFFu3fYtJ8 3/13/2018 3:46:01 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
^He doesn't run back and forth across the base line nearly enough in those clips. 3/13/2018 3:57:25 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just excited to have non-ACC refs calling this game - feel like we'll at least get a fairer shot in that regard. Just depends on which NC State team shows up but I think we match up well with Seton Hall and Kansas. I think we'd also have a good shot at Clemson/NMSt/Auburn. 3/13/2018 4:48:35 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah, I think foul trouble stemming from bullshit calls contributed more to our recent losses than non-State fans want to admit. 3/13/2018 5:27:56 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah NCAAT is usually officiated more loosely than regular season. And we don’t need foul trouble, that has killed us at times...forcing us to use weird lineup combinations.
And to piggyback off what ^^ said...I know people tout this as the toughest region. But (and this is a huge but, I’m obviously getting ahead of myself but fuck it)...people have said Kansas isn’t as strong as past KU teams, Clemson is a week 5 seed imo, they don’t scare me at all, Auburn doesn’t scare me either. We already beat duke. I’m not predicting we go on a big run or anything...And I do think there are 3 title contender teams in our bracket. But relatively speaking, for a 9 seed our path to the elite 8 isn’t *that* bad. 3/13/2018 6:22:06 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Agreed. UVA is the only 1 seed I don't think we could beat. I was kind of hoping for Villanova, I think they're the weakest of the four.
Not inconceivable that we'd beat Kansas in a close game, but it's just as likely we'll get blown out vs Seton Hall. So we'll see. 3/13/2018 6:55:49 PM |