rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
The very first one has a mod with casual unnecessary n word usage 12/21/2021 12:08:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
https://brentroad.com/joke.aspx?joke=1 ? 12/21/2021 1:53:36 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
So apparently this is Joke Talk. 12/21/2021 2:32:27 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^gosh excuse me, the first one on the list aka the most recent jeeeeez
[Edited on December 21, 2021 at 3:41 PM. Reason : ^Yea bc our bball team is a joke am I right?!?! ] 12/21/2021 3:40:49 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Here’s a joke
NC State basketball
(Copyright by me, all rights reserved, etc) 12/21/2021 5:04:48 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Oh shit 12/21/2021 5:32:49 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
This joke is karma for the baseball team 12/21/2021 5:42:31 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I'm beginning to think Sid Lowe teams would beat this squad 12/21/2021 8:20:26 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
The good news is the Purdue game ended up not mattering at all 12/21/2021 8:20:55 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Sure am glad we didn’t get a postseason ban 12/21/2021 8:44:54 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
I stand by my assessment that cam hayes is the most disappointing player on the team
[Edited on December 21, 2021 at 8:49 PM. Reason : Maybe Dillingham can reclassify and come in next year.] 12/21/2021 8:47:22 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Dillingham will never be at NCSU. We all know that isn't happening. He will go pro or Keatts won't be here or both. 12/21/2021 8:52:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
is this loss worse than the Central Connecticut win? 12/21/2021 8:52:20 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/SickosCBB/status/1473465081325359106?t=aeJsx7O-V-yQb69CMtov-w&s=19 12/21/2021 8:55:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
I agree with Justin. Cam Hayes has been a major disappointment. 12/21/2021 9:01:05 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We all know that isn't happening" |
Must suck to be such a miserable fucke12/21/2021 9:01:37 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
How is telling the truth being a miserable fuck?
I told you all: 1) We play a shit schedule 2) We aren't good
And right on both accounts. That's not being miserable. 12/21/2021 9:07:23 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I stand by my assessment that cam hayes is the most disappointing player on the team" |
I'm coming around on this. His "shooting slump" seems like it is now who he is. Jesus. Although our senior "4" getting just over 4 rebounds a game is a close second. Hellems is actually worse from the field than Hayes on the season which is hard to believe given how bad Hayes has been, but at least he makes up for it by being a serviceable 3 pt shooter.
I said I wouldn't piss on on Keatts anymore and I'm trying my best, but goddamn. It hasn't been this low in men's bball since Sid.12/21/2021 9:18:28 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Guessing that a recruit who isn't supposed to graduate high school for a year and a half isn't going to enroll is being miserable, not telling the fuckin truth. 12/21/2021 9:19:01 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
^^Hellems is our best 3 point shooter. Hayes honestly brings *nothing* to the offense. He's a point guard who doesn't make anyone around him better and doesn't regularly get buckets. Honestly at this point maybe bench him and roll with a starting 5 of Seabron, Morsell, Smith, Hellems and Dowuona.
And this season is still miles better than the final Gottfried season, which in my opinion was the most miserable season I've experienced. Even worse than the godawful sid teams led by the shittiest point guards we've ever had.] 12/21/2021 9:22:46 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
I just got back from hanging out with my cool friends in Buckhead. Did we win? 12/21/2021 9:28:49 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
^^Unfortunately on this team "best 3 pt shooter" is still just serviceable, but yes, I agree Hayes is probably worse at this point despite Hellems being a senior big man who can't fuckin rebound. You were right, I was wrong. Happy?
I got no problem with rolling the ball out for Pass and seeing what he can do with bigger minutes or just letting Seabron handle the ball. Pass doesn't seem to have ACC speed/athleticism, but it can't get worse than Hayes at this point
Not sure what happened to Hayes as he had some flashes last season (still was obvious Shak was better even then). Maybe he bulked up too much in the offseason?
^^Gott's last season was miserable, but I don't remember it being like otherworldly bad and I went back and looked. We were 11-2 in our non-conf. and then completely shit the bed in the ACC (excepting that DSJ game against Duke). In other words, we didn't fuckin lose to a 3-7 horizon league team that year and we have plenty of time this year to stack up losses in the ACC too.
[Edited on December 21, 2021 at 9:38 PM. Reason : had to go look. ] 12/21/2021 9:31:29 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I told you all: 1) We play a shit schedule 2) We aren't good" | if 2 is true then good thing about 112/21/2021 9:45:18 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Hellems is shooting over 40% from 3. That's plenty more than just serviceable. Scott Wood was a career 41% 3 point shooter. Serviceable.] 12/21/2021 9:50:36 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe Hellems should he taking 40 3s a game. We might have a shot again The Horizon
I’m checked out. I want to take my son and daughter to a game, but who wants to expose their kids to hot garbage 12/21/2021 10:23:42 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
It builds character 12/21/2021 11:07:10 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^I wouldnt be an nc state fan if my dad thought that way
Wait did my dad ruin me? 12/21/2021 11:56:13 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Didn’t see the game tonight, how pathetic. I would like to think that by the end of the season Smith will be our best 3 point shooter. 12/22/2021 12:09:51 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Smith is shooting 35% (on more attempts than Hellems) it's HIGHLY unlikely that he ends the season as the best 3 point shooter on the team. That would mean both he would have to drastically increase his 3pt% over the remaining games and Hellems would have to crater. The latter doesn't seem likely at all as Hellems has improved his 3 point shooting every season. Seems much, much more likely that Smith hits the notorious freshman wall and struggles a little bit in conference play. So no i don't think Smith is going to end the season shooting better from 3 than Hellems. There's nothing that really points to it.
#HellemsHomies] 12/22/2021 12:54:47 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " want to take my son and daughter to a game, but who wants to expose their kids to hot garbage" |
Take them to a women’s game12/22/2021 6:25:13 AM |
rayef3rw All American 910 Posts user info edit post |
^ This is the correct answer
Honestly though, 'm not sure how much of tonight was us being thin and not that good and how much was just Wright State having a really damn good game. I haven't heard anyone say that yet mostly just cause of the pessimism of losing to a bad team, but still, they hit >50% FG on the night and just under 40% on 3s, not to mention 15-16 on FTs. Now of course, is some of that on us for bad defensive sets? Yes. But also we could not keep them from driving to the basket and their ability to get 3s when they needed it or stuff a rebound was killer. 12/22/2021 7:27:08 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
either Tony or Gary said that they were predicted to finish pretty high in their league this year in the preseason, but hadn't really performed to expectations prior to our game 12/22/2021 8:26:12 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hellems is shooting over 40% from 3." |
Is this like when you are 5 and a half years old and tell everyone you are going on 6?
Anyway, I don't even know what you are arguing about at this point. I conceded the point. Hellems has been less of a disappointment than Hayes this year. I wouldn't celebrate all that much here as he still has the worst FG% of any of our top 7 guys (including Hayes), doesn't rebound, and he is our only Senior...
^, ^^ I don't want to burst the "bright side" bubble, but saying they are actually a really good team except for their record is divorcing how they shot last night from the cause (our poor defense). It's the same excuse that gets used for our poor shooting. We shoot poorly because our offense doesn't regularly produce good shots, not because we just randomly have bad nights.12/22/2021 9:22:39 AM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
I'll have to take them to a Women's game in Reynold (its cheaper too)
Quote : | "^^I wouldnt be an nc state fan if my dad thought that way
Wait did my dad ruin me?" |
My dad didn't take me to any state game until I was 16 or 17. what happened before that, Les Robinson.
and yes we are all Ruin. my only hope was how we Beat UNC* this year in football, maybe the tide is turning, but it ain't happening in Basketball this season. Next year? going to need a lot of staff changes. 2 years from now when Dilly show up?
I'll leave this here, go look at Wake's record.
[Edited on December 22, 2021 at 9:55 AM. Reason : i]12/22/2021 9:54:40 AM |
rayef3rw All American 910 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I'm not saying they're a good team, just that they played well last night. Granted, our team was exceptionally bad as well, but it's possible for both to be true 12/22/2021 10:30:47 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
They played well last night because our defense looked lackluster and we didn't adjust for their inside game.
One thing leads to the other. That means it's not a consolation for what amounts to an awful awful loss at home.
We don't have an entire team full of bad shooters (at least not as bad as they have been this season), we have an offense that doesn't regularly create open looks. One thing leads to the other. 12/22/2021 10:36:15 AM |
rayef3rw All American 910 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They played well last night because our defense looked lackluster and we didn't adjust for their inside game. One thing leads to the other" |
I did make that point in my initial post, but regardless, their shots weren't uncontested. You can admit we played bad AND note that they played well.12/22/2021 10:47:10 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Update: after the wright state game, Hellems is shooting 41% for 3 on the year (Smith is down to 34% FYI.) Also he is not the worst shooter from 2 on the team as he's starting to improve after an abysmal start and has now passed Morsell. Fully expect him to end the year shooting >45% inside the arc and continue to guy 40% from deep. 12/22/2021 5:11:51 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Weird that ESPN stats still show under 40%^. Either way, we can agree that his 3pt shooting has not been the problem.
The real ACC opener is tonight after a break. It will be interesting to see if that Wright state disaster was a one-off or if we can turn some things around. I fully expect an L on the road, but if we can play organized D and run even a few quality half-court possessions on O, I will be satisfied. 12/29/2021 11:13:13 AM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
fully expect a bad loss 12/29/2021 12:53:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
I like how this game is actually on a TV channel 12/29/2021 10:11:03 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
JESUS CHRIST HAYES STOP TAKING BAD SHOTS 12/29/2021 10:30:24 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Why can't i stream this game on Bally Sports? I know it says ESPNU, but i pay for bally so i should be able to stream it on there!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!! 12/29/2021 10:39:00 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Hayes is complete garbage now. Like he makes us considerably worse when he's on the floor. I hate to say this, but he's Maverick Rowan.
[Edited on December 29, 2021 at 10:51 PM. Reason : Probably worse than Rowan because he's so ball dominant and is just a black hole.] 12/29/2021 10:50:31 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I don’t think I have ever seen a player regress like Cam has this year. It’s time for Pass to take more of his minutes.
I don’t understand why Keatts teams can’t consistently run a half court offense. There are times when you see off ball movement and quick passes and it produces good shots. And then it’s like they forget to move and it’s back to ISO ball and contested jumpers for long stretches. The fact that Keatts can’t get them to run offense out of timeouts ever is the nail in the coffin for me.
I tried but he ain’t the guy. 12/29/2021 11:24:40 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly starting to wonder if Hayes is like jealous of Seabron and is trying to play hero ball to outplay him. 12/29/2021 11:31:27 PM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
Well at least this team won't have to worry about post season play. 12/30/2021 11:34:09 AM |
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12/30/2021 11:54:59 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Hayes on the bench to start 1/1/2022 3:58:20 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Solid start for Allen, too 1/1/2022 4:45:42 PM |