not credible

7/30/2021 1:46:16 PM

^

7/31/2021 11:17:37 AM

I don't know. Elise Stefanik makes some great points.

Quote :

"Today’s Anniversary of Medicare & Medicaid reminds us to reflect on the critical role these programs have played to protect the healthcare of millions of families. To safeguard our future, we must reject Socialist healthcare schemes. https://twitter.com/EliseStefanik/status/1421115026300186634?s=20"

7/31/2021 1:19:46 PM

Apparently this is real

9/23/2021 10:28:50 AM

lmfao i wish

9/23/2021 11:08:27 AM

Russia is one of the worst polluters in the world

9/23/2021 11:49:51 AM

I can't wait to find out what cesspool that meme was copied from.

9/23/2021 12:10:23 PM

^^
that's the soviet union symbol though

[Edited on September 23, 2021 at 12:34 PM. Reason : also just learned she's using it as a placeholder for china lol]

9/23/2021 12:15:53 PM

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/trump-campaign-voting-conspiracy-theories-memo/index.html

New York Times: Trump campaign was aware attorneys' voting conspiracy theories were baseless, court documents show

9/23/2021 4:06:41 PM

2024 election will increase popcorn sales by eleventy billion percent.

Mike Pence and Mitch McConnell have a Donald Trump problem
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/27/opinions/pence-mcconnell-reelection-trump-2024-dantonio/index.html

Trump's new interviews and appearances show that a storm is brewing
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/26/media/trump-interviews-reliable-sources/index.html

9/28/2021 9:18:43 AM

Popcorn sales? Wtf are you talking about?

9/28/2021 12:41:02 PM

[Edited on September 28, 2021 at 3:46 PM. Reason : a phenomenal shit show]

9/28/2021 3:45:10 PM

Should be hilarious and entertaining right up until they win

9/28/2021 9:26:41 PM

Josh Hawley is such a piece of shit.

https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1445373053542834184

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1445419468734226435

10/5/2021 12:16:31 PM

^he really is. a blow-hard bully.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xjx9/maga-qanon-war-marjorie-taylor-greene-lin-woodc

Quote :

"On Friday, things escalated when Wood called Greene a “communist”: "In my opinion, Marjorie Taylor Greene is a communist. If Marjorie Taylor Greene is running around saying 'Impeach Biden,' that says that Biden won—he didn't," Wood wrote on his Telegram channel, boosting the conspiracy once again that Trump won the election."

Quote :

"Greene, who has until now ignored Wood’s attacks. responded on her Twitter account by referencing allegations by Rittenhouse’s mother that Wood had stolen money from a fundraising campaign designed to fund the 18-year-old’s defense. “He lifts up his Bible high and lies and lies,” Greene tweeted, referring to Wood constantly referencing his faith. “He’s not one of us.”"

10/11/2021 10:14:39 AM

Dissension in Trumpland?

10/11/2021 11:18:55 AM

I shouldn't be surprised that Republicans are exploiting the rape of a 15-year-old girl to meet their own political ends.

10/27/2021 3:11:20 PM

At this point the only thing Republicans could do to surprise me would be to do something not completely heinous

10/27/2021 6:40:42 PM

The ultimate in shock value!

10/27/2021 7:02:40 PM

More Trump/God artwork



https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/qly2cz/i_thought_the_bible_said_something_about/

11/3/2021 9:57:26 PM

I think that's depicting Trump as an avenging angel, not as God himself. Still weird, of course.

11/4/2021 2:11:00 AM

holy shit, yeah it maxes out the weird scale regardless of what supernatural entity he's depicted as.

11/8/2021 1:45:38 AM

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/09/upton-receives-death-threats-after-backing-bipartisan-public-works-bill/6351806001/

Link includes death threat audio.

Quote :

" Republican U.S. Rep. Fred Upton said he has received well over 1,000 calls including multiple "nasty" death threats since he voted for a bipartisan infrastructure bill that he helped write with GOP and Democratic colleagues earlier this year. More than 90% of the calls are coming from outside of Upton's southwest Michigan district, a spokesman said, including one man from South Carolina who left this message: "I hope you die. I hope everybody in your f------ family dies," while calling the longtime lawmaker a "f------ piece of s--- traitor." [...] The congressman said the calls started after his Republican colleague, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, publicly posted the names and phone numbers of Upton and a dozen other GOP House members who voted in support of the bill, calling them "traitors.""

Only traitors want roads and bridges.

I love that Upton blames the death threats on polarization as if the threats were coming from crazed Democrats. The calls are coming from inside the house, bro!

11/12/2021 5:23:37 PM

Casper Star-Tribune: Wyoming GOP votes to no longer recognize Liz Cheney as a party member


https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/15/politics/wyoming-gop-liz-cheney/index.html

11/16/2021 6:18:45 AM

Meanwhile...

https://thehill.com/homenews/581475-republicans-hold-largest-edge-in-early-midterm-vote-preferences-in-40-years-poll

11/16/2021 8:51:58 AM

https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/1056397130/rep-gosar-faces-censure-over-an-anime-video-of-himself-killing-aoc

Quote :

"The House of Representatives voted to censure hardline Republican Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., and remove him from his two committee assignments. The vote was mostly along party lines, 223-207. Two Republicans, Reps. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., and Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., joined all Democrats to censure Gosar, while Rep. David Joyce, R-Ohio, voted present."

11/18/2021 10:01:50 AM

is this thread also about their dumbass supporters or only the actual politicians?

11/19/2021 3:40:27 PM

both

plenty of elected officials in their party are openly celebrating someone who killed two people being found innocent of murder

I couldn’t imagine voting for anyone in this party

11/19/2021 4:42:36 PM

I'll have to admit that I have before, but I certainly can't now.

I already had misgivings in multiple areas, but Trump and the party's ongoing reaction to him was enough to turn me off forever. I'm very disappointed in friends, colleagues, and acquaintances who have an endless chain of excuses for the guy. Why?! He's objectively awful and dangerous.

11/19/2021 10:12:42 PM

^Same. Growing up in a Christian Republican family (but not a Southern Baptist, Bible thumping far-right family) I was in favor of fiscal conservatism, but did not give two shits about gay marriage, abortion, weed, etc so I often voted third party and occasionally even a Democrat or two. But the way the Republican party fell all over themselves to fellate the Don and excuse anything he did made me sick. And when so many were able to completely write off criticisms of Trump as "Fake News" even though they gave Clinton such shit for the Monica Lewinsky affair and Democrats for the cult of personality around Bill and Hillary, the hypocrisy was just too much and I was done. After Trump was elected I began actively voting Democrat as an FU to them. They hyper partisanship on their part is sickening. Unless they completely repudiate Trumpism and the far-right like MTG and Madison Cawthorn, I will no longer support them.

11/22/2021 8:30:51 AM

Unfortunately, this experience among cradle Republicans seems to be the clear minority. Most appear to be doubling down. Anything passes to cling to power, I guess (oh, and to own the libs, of course). Spineless.

11/22/2021 9:05:13 AM

For as long as I can remember, I've always downloaded a sample ballot prior to each election, then looked up each candidate's campaign website and examined their stated issues and sometimes their bios if I wasn't sold on any given candidate's issues alone.

I usually ended up picking a Democrat, but I tried my best to be as bipartisan as possible and would possibly elect a couple of Republicans for various positions.

However, in 2010, based on the candidates' stated positions, I didn't vote for a single Republican, because every Republican candidate seemed to have absurd positions. I may have left some of the entries blank, if I wasn't happy with the Democratic candidate either, but I didn't cast a single Republican vote that election.

I recall feeling fairly guilty afterwards for having voted in such a partisan fashion.

Then, the new General Assembly took office, flooded with Republicans who had been recently elected, and they began passing absurd legislation.

It didn't take long for me to feel completely vindicated for not having voted for a single one of them.

In 2012, 2014, 2016 and 2018, I may have continued to review Republican candidates' stated issues, but I had no regrets if I didn't vote for any of them.

In 2020, I didn't review any Republican candidates' websites - I only reviewed the campaign sites of Democrats and Libertarians - because I refused to vote for any candidate that would appear on the same ballot with the same party affiliation as Donald Trump.

I'll likely review their campaign websites again in 2022, but it's unlikely that I'll vote for any of them anytime soon.

11/22/2021 11:24:22 AM

Voted for Dubya twice. Won't vote for a GOP candidate for dogcatcher until they explicitly disavow Trump. Voted straight ticket D in 2020.

11/22/2021 9:35:48 PM

Both of your experiences are pretty similar to mine. I would vote R and D based more on issues than what team they were on, mainly because in my area of Eastern NC there were no Republican candidates in local elections. Then when the Republicans took over the state Legislature and started supporting bullshit like HB2, I was thoroughly disgusted and decided to not support them at least at the state level. Like Grumpy said, once the party was fully MAGA'd I was done and will be until they have completely turned from Trumpism.

11/23/2021 6:55:29 AM

A year later and they are still butthurt over the 2020 election.

https://www.newsweek.com/conservative-legislators-call-audits-50-states-bid-decertify-joe-bidens-win-1652777

11/24/2021 11:48:56 AM

I don't know how this system of government is going to "work" if the losing party never accepts a loss without allegations of rampant yet somehow categorically unprovable fraud.

11/24/2021 3:53:29 PM

^^^, ^^^^, ^^^^^

That's pretty much me. I used to vote for largely a mix of (R) and (L)...trending more towards the latter than the former as the GOP got worse and worse over time. Every once in a while, I'd vote for a (D), but it was rare. That, and I'd leave races blank.

The last 2 (maybe 3?) elections, I've voted mostly for a mix of (D) and (L), with some left blank. I don't think I voted for a single (R) in 2020. I won't vote for an (R) who isn't clearly against Trump and Trumpism. I suppose it theoretically doesn't have to be explicit, but it has to be clear. That narrows it down to practically zero candidates, other than a tiny handful of them who aren't running in any race I can vote in.

My political views have changed fairly minimally over the last, say 15 years...and not really all that much over the last 20-25. The parties have both shifted for the worse, but the GOP has become illiberal, undemocratic, incompetent to run the country, and detached from reality, logic, and facts. The Dems are merely anathema--sometimes that leaves them as tolerable given the other choices.

Quote :

"plenty of elected officials in their party are openly celebrating someone who killed two people being found innocent of murder I couldn’t imagine voting for anyone in this party"

I wasn't in that courtroom--same as everyone else here--but I am pretty comfortable with the Rittenhouse verdict. At the absolute best, he's no hero--and I think it's probably accurate to say that he made some seriously poor decisions--but I don't think he is a murderer, and I think the narrative on that story got skewed in the media portrayal. Also, I think he was way overcharged. He probably should have been convicted on a weapons charge or two in light of the straw purchase of the rifle, and maybe the possession of it (not sure on the law there).

I don't think there's anything to celebrate anywhere in that entire situation other than, I think, the correct verdict being reached on the homicide charges.

12/6/2021 11:05:29 PM

Devin Nunes leaving Congress. . .

. . . to become CEO of Trump Media & Technology Group (AKA Chief Propagandist)

12/7/2021 1:34:45 AM

Holy Cow

12/7/2021 10:41:03 AM

can someone explain the cow thing to me

12/7/2021 11:59:44 AM

I'm not really sure of the details myself, but there's some about it here:

https://www.thefocus.news/culture/devin-nunes-cow-origin/

12/7/2021 12:10:20 PM

https://www.newsweek.com/devin-nunes-cow-celebrates-resignation-twitter-trump-tmtg-1656687

12/7/2021 12:11:52 PM

I want to say there was a story awhile back that his farm in Iowa (or California?) only had one cow or something and was claiming subsidies or residence or something.

12/7/2021 12:13:11 PM

Quote :

"Like Grumpy said, once the party was fully MAGA'd I was done and will be until they have completely turned from Trumpism."

The party is lost. It's clear that noone is going to hold any of these people accountable in a meaningful way. This country won't survive Trumpism intact. It's got blueballs for violence and it won't rest until it finally gets the pointless internal fight that will totally wreck our economy and finish burning what's left of the social contract.

There will probably be an effort towards the rise of American city-states, where blue urban areas will try to further distance themselves from their parent red states by attempting to make a more micro version of "state's rights" as the only possible reaction to the state GOPs that will permanently gerrymander themselves into power.

I started this post in hyperbole, but by the time i got to the end, I think I resigned myself to actually believing that this is what will actually happen.

12/7/2021 3:35:24 PM

Thanks for the depression, marko.

12/8/2021 8:16:36 AM

Let something happen to Biden and we get "President Kamala Harris" and the whole thing moves up in schedule with these knuckle-draggers. You might even see people not recognize a transfer of power there, worse than it is now.

[Edited on December 8, 2021 at 10:46 AM. Reason : .]

12/8/2021 10:42:23 AM

I had never put ^ into numerical terms until I read this article by the Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/january-6-insurrection-trump-coup-2024-election/620843/

21 Million US Citizens believe that the election was stolen and that something needs to be done about it, even if it includes violence. That's an unbelievable amount of people, especially when you consider that a substantial portion of those individuals are middle class and college educated.

12/8/2021 11:42:19 AM

its an interesting topic. have any of you tried to get in the head of an acquaintance like this?

12/8/2021 11:52:53 AM

^^that article is terrifying. i may start more concrete planning for the upcoming civil war

12/8/2021 12:17:29 PM

^^

lol acquaintances? nah, they're my goddamn relatives.... all they care about is their guns at this point and they can't wait for this romanticized notion of a civil war to use them because that's their only solution to anything — to cause someone else pain because they're scared of everything

much like the January 6 people, I think they truly believe that they'll have a little war in their free time and somehow win the day and do NOT understand that they will finish fucking the supply chain/infrastructure if they decide to caravan their way into conflict

all about some prepper lifestyle, but couldn't stay in the house for 3 months before they were fighting people at the Walmart

12/8/2021 12:34:40 PM