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Bullet
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"“gotta start somewhere””"


Sure, but this ain't the way (and Elon shouldn't be the guy)

2/19/2025 10:28:27 AM

thegoodlife3
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/02/elon-musk-doge-purge-cancer-nuclear-weapons.html

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" Meet the Disabled Vets, Cancer Researchers, and Nuclear Techs Fired by Elon Musk"

2/19/2025 10:36:32 AM

CaelNCSU
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^^ did you think he should not have bought Twitter and predict it would crash and burn too?

2/19/2025 11:04:59 AM

thegoodlife3
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it has crash and burned

2/19/2025 11:12:07 AM

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^^Twitter is a shell of its former self. I’ve never had an account, but you’d have to be blind to see what has happened to it.

He’s on the verge of tanking Tesla as well.

2/19/2025 11:16:43 AM

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https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/global-trends/elon-musk-x-employees-email-breaking-even-x-facing-big-financial-hurdle-heres-what-elon-musk-told-his-employees-in-an-email/articleshow/117605040.cms

2/19/2025 11:21:45 AM

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"did you think he should not have bought Twitter and predict it would crash and burn too?"


A private social media platform is quite different than the entire US Government. That shouldn't have to be said.

2/19/2025 11:24:43 AM

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-19/musk-s-x-is-in-talks-to-raise-money-at-a-44-billion-valuation

https://x.com/karpathy/status/1891720635363254772

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/spectrum-x-ethernet-networking-xai-colossus

Doubled profitability in the face of loss of revenue and built out XAI from nothing. Grok is now competitive in the LLM space and part of Twitter. Colosus is now the largest GPU cluster in the world.

^ he's navigated three companies that require knowledge and maneuvering within the darkest recesses of the government. SpaceX, Neuralink and Tesla. He's uniquely in a position to have a birds eye view of the entire government.



[Edited on February 19, 2025 at 11:34 AM. Reason : A]

2/19/2025 11:25:16 AM

Bullet
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Holy shit man

2/19/2025 11:47:10 AM

EMCE
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I don't understand how anyone could think Musk actually runs his companies. He is an investor, not an inventor or CIO/COO. He is probably paid handsomely to stay the hell away from any impactful decisions, by the people paid to run his companies for him.

2/19/2025 11:50:42 AM

CaelNCSU
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^ you could read the biography or look at all the anecdotes about people who want to work for him despite the lower than average pay and hellish working conditions.

He's setting the vision, selling the vision and definitely involved in cutting waste. There is independent verification he was involved in the Raptor engine development and the tower catch chopsticks (also in the biography).

2/19/2025 11:57:40 AM

emnsk
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Elon musk is indeed a man of vision

2/19/2025 12:00:39 PM

EMCE
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^^ It sounds like you stare at pictures of Elon, while eating snickers bars upside down in order to feel the texture

2/19/2025 12:07:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/musks-28-false-claims-get-millions-of-views?utm_campaign=email-post-title&utm_medium=email

2/19/2025 12:11:43 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ I named all three of my sons after him. It gets confusing.

"Elon, stop hitting Elon with your Starship toy"

2/19/2025 12:31:55 PM

emnsk
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What is Elon (3) doing

2/19/2025 12:46:49 PM

CaelNCSU
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Crying as a tactic to get this ladies bra off.

2/19/2025 1:49:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://newrepublic.com/article/191702/trump-musk-national-institutes-health-wrecked

2/19/2025 1:55:36 PM

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https://www.science.org/content/article/potential-fabrication-research-images-threatens-key-theory-alzheimers-disease

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"In August 2021, Matthew Schrag, a neuroscientist and physician at Vanderbilt University, got a call that would plunge him into a maelstrom of possible scientific misconduct. A colleague wanted to connect him with an attorney investigating an experimental drug for Alzheimer’s disease called Simufilam. The drug’s developer, Cassava Sciences, claimed it improved cognition, partly by repairing a protein that can block sticky brain deposits of the protein amyloid beta (Aß), a hallmark of Alzheimer’s. The attorney’s clients—two prominent neuroscientists who are also short sellers who profit if the company’s stock falls—believed some research related to Simufilam may have been “fraudulent,” according to a petition later filed on their behalf with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Schrag, 37, a softspoken, nonchalantly rumpled junior professor, had already gained some notoriety by publicly criticizing the controversial FDA approval of the anti-Aß drug Aduhelm. His own research also contradicted some of Cassava’s claims. He feared volunteers in ongoing Simufilam trials faced risks of side effects with no chance of benefit.

So he applied his technical and medical knowledge to interrogate published images about the drug and its underlying science—for which the attorney paid him $18,000. He identified apparently altered or duplicated images in dozens of journal articles. The attorney reported many of the discoveries in the FDA petition, and Schrag sent all of them to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), which had invested tens of millions of dollars in the work. (Cassava denies any misconduct [see sidebar, below].)"

2/19/2025 2:21:04 PM

thegoodlife3
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that happened before CARD was established

2/19/2025 2:35:03 PM

CaelNCSU
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Added for context. Some Alzheimer's research is based on fraud and there are still people doing research on the amyloid hypothesis.

2/19/2025 2:38:59 PM

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Lord knows we'd never let a couple bad apples spoil a police department.

2/19/2025 2:58:04 PM

thegoodlife3
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research is good

cutting researchers is bad

2/19/2025 3:02:25 PM

Bullet
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And it's a drop in the bucket...

[Edited on February 19, 2025 at 3:12 PM. Reason : a drop in the lake, the ocean, actually]

2/19/2025 3:11:50 PM

emnsk
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Yeah, there will always be inefficiency, but the vary basis of government is to do stuff for the public good, which outweighs whatever else

this isn't criminal law or something, where you gotta apply that "better a 100 prisoners go free than 1 innocent man be made imprisoned" mindset

2/19/2025 5:08:13 PM

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He’s a deadbeat dad I guess

https://bsky.app/profile/davidingram.bsky.social/post/3linboxe3lk2m

2/20/2025 5:46:23 PM

marko
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He's got plenty more to use as human shields.

2/20/2025 7:59:10 PM

StTexan
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Even Phillip rivers like damn dude chill out

2/20/2025 8:09:36 PM

thegoodlife3
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he’s now shadowbanned Grimes

and now this:

https://bsky.app/profile/jamiedupree.bsky.social/post/3lintg7t2k22b

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"Over on X, simple tweets by my colleague Greg Bluestein of the Atlanta Journal Constitution have been blocked. They were nothing but video of a town hall held by Rep. Rich McCormick R-GA where he was asked questions about DOGE"


the greatest free speech absolutist of all time

[Edited on February 20, 2025 at 11:06 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2025 10:53:11 PM

aaronburro
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Musk is a govt employee right now. This is a trivially simple lawsuit

2/21/2025 8:49:23 PM

StTexan
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Trump should test musk for drugs and stuff

2/22/2025 12:44:06 AM

aaronburro
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So, qfred, still have trust in Musk's guys? One is, at best, white-supremacist-adjacent. And another, the one you told us not to be ageist against?...

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/doge-musk-edward-coristine-invs/index.html
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"“Edward has been terminated for leaking internal information to the competitors. This is unacceptable and there is zero tolerance for this,” an executive wrote in a team chat.


“The penalty for consorting with the enemy,” Path’s CEO said.

Less than two months later, Coristine himself, posting under the username Rivage, boasted in an online chatroom that he maintained access to Path Network’s systems after he was terminated.

“I had access to all the game hosting machines for months after termination ??????” Coristine posted in a Discord channel."


Exactly the kind of guy that should get access to tons of sensitive gov't data, right? But it's ok. Something had to be done, right?

[Edited on February 22, 2025 at 10:07 AM. Reason : ]

2/22/2025 10:06:32 AM

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did I say I trusted any of them??

2/22/2025 11:19:39 AM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/02/22/musk-email-federal-workers/

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" Feds must answer email on what they did last week — or lose jobs, Musk says

Emails began going out to the 2.3-million federal employees Saturday asking for five bullet points of their accomplishments."


insanity

there is absolutely no defense of this

[Edited on February 22, 2025 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2025 5:28:23 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ it's how he runs his companies and what he said to Parag after the Twitter acquisition. If you've ever worked somewhere "hardcore" it's kind of the norm.


More baby mama drama, sued for paternity:
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1893314812924268921

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1893402079038685244

[Edited on February 22, 2025 at 5:46 PM. Reason : A]

2/22/2025 5:41:21 PM

thegoodlife3
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the federal government is not his company

2/22/2025 5:54:23 PM

CaelNCSU
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No, it's Trump's now and he is the acting COO.

Why do you not demand accountability of your tax dollars?

[Edited on February 22, 2025 at 7:10 PM. Reason : A]

2/22/2025 7:08:40 PM

aaronburro
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Only a fucking moron woukd treat a government like a company. They aren't even remotely the same thing.

2/22/2025 7:57:55 PM

CaelNCSU
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TIL: asking people what they did that week is fucking stupid. Accountability is paramount to any endeavor. Functional organizations can tell you where the resources are allocated at a week resolution and when things change they are transparently communicated. Functional things don't lose track of trillions of dollars and then shrug and say, "oops" when an audit is failed.

Saying, "gov is not a company" may be what you wish to be the case, but from what's reported it seems to be what's happening.

2/22/2025 8:42:53 PM

The Coz
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It's a pretty insulting request obviously meant to generate fear.

Who are these justifications being prepared for and judged by?

Why don't our elected representatives prepare a bulleted list of their "accomplishments" for us on a weekly basis?

I don't have a problem with accountability. I want to know who watches the Watchmen.

2/22/2025 9:49:23 PM

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Twitter by every metric you measure companies by, is a shadow of its former self

And the government has hundreds of auditing offices and accountability laws— these are one of the favorite things legislators like to write. Musk taking a bunch of inexperienced tech bros who don’t know how databases work or how to setup email, is not a credible audit attempt

But that is all obvious… no reasonable person believes the efficiency nonsense

They are just trying to destroy the federal government, and trigger perhaps an economic downturn. To what end is the real question. I think the musk-Vance-yarvin connection can’t be ignored— theyre laying the groundwork for states to secede as Yarvin yearns for

2/22/2025 10:11:13 PM

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^^^He clearly did not say, "gov is not a company". What he actually said (only a fucking moron would treat it like one) isn't even remotely the same thing. Your response is irrelevant.

2/22/2025 11:26:04 PM

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Exactly. The Coz is right on the money here

Trump always did this on an individual level to those around him, and the more public figures like other Republicans... but he got Elon for the purpose of doing it to every employee of the Federal Government.

And the thing is, I don't necessarily disagree with CaelNCSU's take on it here... but it just begs the question, why are they doing it in such a publicized and centralized manner? You want to be effective and also maintain morale -- have it done department by department by the people you're in touch with, have things actually take place.

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"It's a pretty insulting request obviously meant to generate fear."


[Edited on February 23, 2025 at 12:46 AM. Reason : not just for the employees though, but for the country]

2/23/2025 12:45:00 AM

CaelNCSU
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^ I agree with the take it should be done by the department at a well functioning organization. That's how it works at a company that has these policies and accountability in it's culture. However, in an organization where accountability is bankrupt at every level you can not trust management to do it themselves and drastic measures have to be taken to right the ship.

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"Twitter by every metric you measure companies by, is a shadow of its former self

And the government has hundreds of auditing offices and accountability laws— these are one of the favorite things legislators like to write. Musk taking a bunch of inexperienced tech bros who don’t know how databases work or how to setup email, is not a credible audit attempt

But that is all obvious… no reasonable person believes the efficiency nonsense

They are just trying to destroy the federal government, and trigger perhaps an economic downturn. To what end is the real question. I think the musk-Vance-yarvin connection can’t be ignored— theyre laying the groundwork for states to secede as Yarvin yearns for"


Twitter has one of the best LLMs currently and it's got the largest GPU cluster in the world, which it built in 122 days. This required solving novel problems in power delivery. In addition now Grok has features built into Twitter that you pay $200/no to get with chat GPT and it's faster. Shell of former self sure, but probably not how you mean it. No fucking way it would have any of that capability under Parag. We'd still be seeing obvious satire censored by the Biden stasi.

Yes I agree they are implementing what Yarvin called '"retire all government employees." What the second part of that strategy entails is hiring your people that will follow your vision. I do believe it's being done to ensure the policies they want to enact are followed.

The government does not follow it's own accountability and audit rules evidenced that the largest parts of it fail audits repeatedly and basic accounting controls don't seem to exist.

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" I want to know who watches the Watchmen."


If you watch interviews/read quotes by Bezos he is big about something he calls mechanisms. Its an abstract concept that applies across the company, but a concrete example would be a system that notifies someone when data is accessed in production. At Amazon if you access customer data in production you have to give a reason when you open the AWS account portal and give a justification. It's the reviewed by someone. Big tech companies have these tight controls. If a 19 year old has root access, or can do any damage to the systems, the government has failed at implementing any of these controls and needs to be rebuilt where it's robust and resilient to a single employee fucking it up.


[Edited on February 23, 2025 at 7:55 AM. Reason : A]

2/23/2025 7:38:24 AM

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"^^^He clearly did not say, "gov is not a company". What he actually said (only a fucking moron would treat it like one) isn't even remotely the same thing. Your response is irrelevant.

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While the government as a whole is not a company, certain functions within it naturally mirror the processes found in the private sector. Take cybersecurity, for example: Is securing government networks fundamentally different from how a company secures its infrastructure? Other than additional controls and the critical need for public trust, the principles—such as firewalls, threat detection, and incident response—are nearly identical.

Similarly, consider accounting practices. The government must manage budgets, track expenses, and ensure financial transparency just like a company does. Why wouldn’t you want these processes to follow efficient, established accounting standards?

Even HR functions, like performance reviews and employee development, benefit from adopting best practices used by successful companies. By running these operations with the same level of discipline, accountability, and efficiency, the government can serve the public more effectively without compromising its public service mission.

Think of it like the genetic similarity between chimpanzees and humans—they share 98.8% of their DNA. Despite their obvious differences in appearance and behavior, many fundamental biological functions remain the same. For example, Hox genes, which regulate development, operate in both species in nearly identical ways, even though the end result are vastly different. Likewise, while government and businesses serve different purposes, many of their internal functions, such as cybersecurity, accounting, and HR, follow similar underlying principles.

2/23/2025 8:54:34 AM

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"If you watch interviews/read quotes by Bezos he is big about something he calls mechanisms. Its an abstract concept that applies across the company, but a concrete example would be a system that notifies someone when data is accessed in production. At Amazon if you access customer data in production you have to give a reason when you open the AWS account portal and give a justification. It's the reviewed by someone. Big tech companies have these tight controls. If a 19 year old has root access, or can do any damage to the systems, the government has failed at implementing any of these controls and needs to be rebuilt where it's robust and resilient to a single employee fucking it up."


Interesting. thanks for sharing this, I like learning about these sorts of things

2/23/2025 2:58:07 PM

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I'll admit thats maybe the first time I've ever heard someone complain the government doesn't have enough added layers of beuracracy

[Edited on February 23, 2025 at 4:50 PM. Reason : Also they're firing people? Who's gonna do the extra oversight? ]

2/23/2025 4:33:26 PM

thegoodlife3
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also hilarious to see someone cape up for micromanagement

dipshits dipshitting all over themselves

2/23/2025 5:26:31 PM

CaelNCSU
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Not the same thing. The idea is have autonomous systems and frameworks in place so in the above example the teenager tries to steal data they can't.

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"Amazon’s mechanisms—like their famous "two-pizza teams" (small teams that can be fed with two pizzas) or the "six-page memo" process for meetings—are designed to align teams toward a goal without constant oversight. They’re baked into the culture and systems, setting clear expectations and guardrails so employees can operate independently within them. For example, the six-page memo forces teams to think deeply and clarify their ideas upfront, reducing the need for a manager to hover and nitpick during execution. These aren’t about controlling every step; they’re about creating a framework where good decisions happen naturally.

Micromanaging, by contrast, is less about systems and more about personal interference. It’s a manager dictating how to format a spreadsheet cell-by-cell or breathing down someone’s neck over every email. It’s reactive, not proactive, and often stems from distrust or a need to assert control. Where Amazon’s mechanisms aim to empower through structure, micromanaging disempowers by fixating on minutiae."


[Edited on February 23, 2025 at 5:31 PM. Reason : A]

2/23/2025 5:30:06 PM

thegoodlife3
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way to rely on AI to write further dipshittery from you

very on brand

2/23/2025 5:48:42 PM

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