emnsk All American 2818 Posts user info edit post |
There are grounds to arrest a lot of them, but that is part of being a protestor. Hell, the arrests are what are giving their ideas and protest fame... that's how it works. So... gaga googoo, doop a dee woo hoo 4/26/2024 2:59:06 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/local/2024/04/26/ut-austin-pro-palestinian-protest-charges-dropped-against-all-57-people-arrested/73468467007/ 4/26/2024 2:07:35 PM |
emnsk All American 2818 Posts user info edit post |
As I knew. Unless a few of them assault an officer or something in response, most charges will just be dropped. The arrests are to remove them from the spot. 4/27/2024 12:57:34 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Tbh, I'm not particularly shocked that Austin prosecutors would drop charges against unruly progressive protesters... 4/27/2024 2:22:47 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ “unruly progressive protesters”
[Edited on April 27, 2024 at 3:07 PM. Reason : the mask is off ] 4/27/2024 3:06:26 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, mask. When have I ever hid my disdain for progressive tomfoolery? 4/27/2024 7:02:48 PM |
emnsk All American 2818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "lol @ “unruly progressive protesters”" |
if only there was a thing called perspective...4/27/2024 9:32:13 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "unruly progressive protesters..." |
So everyone who was arrested was unruly? And "progressive"? What do you base that assumption on?4/29/2024 10:28:15 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
They attended an event whose organizers didn't even attempt to get a permit, stated their express intent was to occupy public property and deny its use to others, while also saying they were "following in the footsteps" of other similar occupations on other campuses (which have included vandalism and destruction of campus property). Yes, they were fucking unruly. This is a strange hill to even consider getting on
[Edited on April 29, 2024 at 9:04 PM. Reason : ] 4/29/2024 9:03:29 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
Would it be too easy to post a picture of civil rights protestors with the caption "unruly progressive protestors" 4/29/2024 10:41:10 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Not based on your history of grinking. 4/30/2024 7:10:31 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They attended an event whose organizers didn't even attempt to get a permit, stated their express intent was to occupy public property and deny its use to others, while also saying they were "following in the footsteps" of other similar occupations on other campuses (which have included vandalism and destruction of campus property). Yes, they were fucking unruly. This is a strange hill to even consider getting on" |
this is his new “they’re CHANGING the DEFINITION of WORDS!” for 2024
Quote : | "(which have included vandalism and destruction of campus property)" |
fuck outta here, man4/30/2024 11:01:09 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
so unruly
4/30/2024 11:06:32 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Peaceful
4/30/2024 1:09:38 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
oh heavens no. not a panel of glass.
https://x.com/7im/status/1785346203779219673?s=46
Quote : | "I've covered campus activism since the late 90s. Nothing that's happening on campuses now -- sit ins, building takeovers, encampments -- is at all outside the standard vernacular of student protest.
What's unusual is administrators calling in riot cops on their own students" |
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/gaza-protests-colleges-violent-cops-1235012276/
[Edited on April 30, 2024 at 1:13 PM. Reason : .]4/30/2024 1:11:56 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^surely you realize that a few anecdotal pictures of "vandalism' doesn't represent the majority of the people taking part in these protests, right? 4/30/2024 2:28:07 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Sorry. I should have said "mostly peaceful." 4/30/2024 3:18:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Still insufferable I see 4/30/2024 3:55:04 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Still unprincipled, I see 4/30/2024 4:53:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
protest is good
that’s my principled stance
why isn’t it yours?
especially when you have no connection to any campus that is currently the site of any protest
[Edited on April 30, 2024 at 5:28 PM. Reason : .] 4/30/2024 5:28:14 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Protest is good, lol. Then you supported the J6 riot and those folks who took over the bird sanctuary, right? Oh, they were protesting the wrong things, so fuck em. Zero. Principles. 4/30/2024 11:37:58 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
You equate J6 ppl with Gaza protesters? 5/1/2024 1:32:27 AM |
emnsk All American 2818 Posts user info edit post |
These guys took down the American flag at UNC.
Where is all this emotion and passion coming from? I guess there were already progressive/Muslim student groups and then Columbia lead the charge and inspired by that they all started it? In which case, I have to ask, wasn't arresting the people in the encampments a bad decision if it was only gonna spark more 5/1/2024 2:43:29 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
The moral position of protestors is important for my moral support of said protests, but not to my support of the right to protest.
That said Sanctuary protested while armed to the teeth, I believe, and J6 entered the capital with the stated intent of using violence on lawmakers. I don't think Columbia students have said they plan to hang Columbias VP 5/1/2024 8:50:50 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Which is all irrelevant to the fact that all three intentionally took over buildings with the intent to deprive their owners of the use of said facilities because they weren't getting their way. They. Did. The. Same. Thing. The right to protest does not include commandeering property. Full stop. How violently you push your way in or try to prevent your removal only heightens the level of your assholery, but it doesn't change whether you're an asshole in the first place.
I am sympathetic to the general demands of the protestors, especially with regards to Israel's actions in the West Bank. I cringe at their tone-deaf naivete in co-opting Hamas narratives and slogans, but they are college students, so, whatever. They want to get a permit and show up en masse and scream their cute little chants, so be it. I support that to the hilt. But the line stops when you indefinitely prevent others from exercising their rights to use a space. This isn't semantics. This is a principled stance that all have a right to those spaces, within reason. And these slapnuts are intentionally denying that to others and to their respective Universities because they are having a tantrum over not getting their way. They are assholes, even if I tend to agree with them. 5/1/2024 10:46:13 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "These guys took down the American flag at UNC.
Where is all this emotion and passion coming from? I guess there were already progressive/Muslim student groups and then Columbia lead the charge and inspired by that they all started it? In which case, I have to ask, wasn't arresting the people in the encampments a bad decision if it was only gonna spark more" |
Meh, I aint gonna get my panties in a wad over folks taking down the American flag. it's a flagpole, big fuckin deal. But, to your question, these demonstrations have been going on since at least October 8th. They've largely been the normal "show up, scream your shit, go home" deal. Not much has changed, both from the protestors, or the university's response. So the heat and passion has been simmering for quite a while. The schools have allowed it, just to avoid rocking the boat too much. I suspect there's been some frustration that the Universities aren't changing their positions, but then again, student demands to cut ties with Microsoft, Google, and Amazon are kinda dumb, and demanding an end to study abroad and research connections with Israeli institutions is (and should be) a tough sell to the schools.
Having said that, there does seem to be a concerted effort recently to co-opt spaces that are typically used for commencement ceremonies to try and force the Universities' hands. Faced with that, it's a tough call. Much of the student population doesn't give a shit, they just wanna take their exams, get their diplomas, and get out. These protestors want to stand in the way of that. I get it, nobody says that protests should be done at the convenience of the entity being protested. So, there's some concern on the part of the schools that they want to clear these things out (which are already violating school policies) so they can do their regular end-of-semester business.
But, there's also a concern that encampments such as this are generally dangerous. They are notorious fire hazards, they invite unsavory individuals from off campus, they take significant resource to clean up during and after the fact, and they do tend to get out of control in a short amount of time. The universities can't sit back while obvious fire and health hazards fester, because they'll be on the hook for the inevitable lawsuits.
The currents howls of anti-semitism are, at best, red herrings. The real concern is commencement, and getting rid of outside agitators and safety hazards.]5/1/2024 11:02:25 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Which is all irrelevant to the fact that all three intentionally took over buildings with the intent to deprive their owners of the use of said facilities because they weren't getting their way. They. Did. The. Same. Thing" |
Im ok with occupying government buildings as a form of protest, while reserving the right to disagree with the reason for protest.
Columbia itself has said they regret the last time they used police to stop occupation of public spaces.
So I think now I want to post pics of police bashing Selma marchers with caption "WHERE ARE YOUR PERMITS" and Boston tea party with "YOU ARE DEPRIVING OTHERS OF THIS PROPERTY"5/1/2024 11:04:28 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Columbia itself has said they regret the last time they used police to stop occupation of public spaces." |
Only because they were trying to appease the little pricks to get them to leave. Shockingly, it didn't work, and it's only made things worse.
Boston Tea Party was legit stupid, but then again, we've largely overplayed what it really was. IIRC, the shipment had already been paid for, there were little actual economic losses. It was a bit symbolic. But yes, it was stupid, and I'd argue not a valid form of protest in the way that we like to mythologize it.
Selma is different beast. They weren't going to be given a permit by racist white fucks, no matter what. The Columbia students had permits for their valid protests. They didn't even try to get one for the encampments, because they knew it wasn't allowed. In Selma, the shutting down of streets by large masses of people was a byproduct of the protest, not the point of the protest; in Columbia, preventing use of the space was the point. In Selma, the protest was designed to simply move through the area; in Columbia, the protest is designed to occupy the area indefinitely. These simply aren't comparable situations.5/1/2024 11:22:52 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
rarely have an occasion to grant the GOP a credibility +1, but this is good to see. hope to see this same energy the next time discriminatory and prejudiced behavior flares up in their own party.
5/1/2024 1:24:50 PM |
emnsk All American 2818 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Meh, I aint gonna get my panties in a wad over folks taking down the American flag. it's a flagpole, big fuckin deal." |
I mean, I don't really care either, it just seems really stupid. Like putting up the Palestinian flag with the US flag would be one thing, but taking down the US flag just seems like a way to look like the instigators and get everyone who was on the fence off your side. No real thinking behind it5/1/2024 4:52:32 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not sure that anyone was bent out of shape over people protesting the 2020 election, other than judging them for believing lies about a stolen election.
I think that it was more the attacking of police officers and trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power that got everybody's goat. 5/1/2024 4:58:18 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53064 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'd generally agree. But, aside from the nutjobs who wanted to kill people, I'm distilling the protest into what it really was: a takeover of a gov't building to prevent functions from happening within. Obviously there's no moral equivalence, as what the J6 fools were trying to do was far far worse.
^^ The sooner you see these acts as performance art, the more it will make sense to you. The provocation is the point. 5/1/2024 6:02:01 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
been having a blast watching Noem flame out spectacularly
between her and DeSantis, it’s a perfect example of how being popular with the online right isn’t nearly good enough to cut it on a national stage 5/8/2024 10:04:22 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Her face is weird. 5/9/2024 7:03:34 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Nikki Haley flushed the statement that was being made by the all of people who voted for her in the primary down the toilet. 5/23/2024 8:52:21 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
For context
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/22/nikki-haley-will-vote-for-trump-00159534 5/23/2024 9:18:32 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Cowardly. You don't have to vote for Biden, but you don't need to essentially bow to Trump and direct your voters there. What does she think she's going to become now? She's yesterday's Trump trash. I'm disappointed, but can't say I'm surprised.] 5/23/2024 10:40:33 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Thank you to all the patriotic Americans inverting the flag in violation of their vaunted flag code and simultaneously outing themselves as ignorant and / or shitty people. Take notes now. 6/2/2024 9:00:39 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Supreme Court justices shouldn’t be inverting flags but doesn’t matter if other people do. It’s a long standing protest symbol. 6/2/2024 2:13:44 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Perhaps, but this one is so dumb. Where is the crisis? 6/2/2024 6:03:25 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
I mean it makes me think this guy is some kind of conspiracy theorist to be married to someone for that long and for her to think flying that flag was ok 6/2/2024 6:28:45 PM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
My recent post was referring to all the ignorant hicks doing it after the guilty verdict, but I guess when they have cover from above, it's to be expected. Still stupid. 6/2/2024 7:16:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^^ah yes, "my wife did it" seems reasonable...until we find out one of those flags flew at another one of his homes. I guess his wife made sure to drive to each of their homes and fly that flag! 6/2/2024 8:24:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/03/nx-s1-4987590/upside-down-american-flag-protest-symbol-history 6/3/2024 2:27:30 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
What a piece of work
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/03/fauci-marjorie-taylor-greene 6/4/2024 11:21:40 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
Sad state of affairs. 6/4/2024 6:52:52 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37694 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A convicted felon should be allowed to run for president
GOP Voters April - 17% June 58%
YouGov #4 - 472 RV" |
6/5/2024 11:57:58 AM |
The Coz Tempus Fugitive 26098 Posts user info edit post |
LOLOLOLOL! 6/5/2024 1:22:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
How you know you’re in a cult 6/5/2024 4:09:03 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
set em up 7/10/2024 11:16:12 AM |