Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
4/4/2006 10:06:23 AM |
Waxer Veteran 104 Posts user info edit post |
do you know who dave glenn is? 4/4/2006 10:11:35 AM |
dave123 Starting Lineup 78 Posts user info edit post |
yes i understand the use of a period just didnt want to use one, they have something to do with a womans menstrual cycle, well thats about all i know 4/4/2006 10:12:49 AM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
to me, wright seems like a really bizzare choice. i doubt he leaves, 'Nova is a great job to have and they'll continue to be competitive after this year.
i think we could get Phil Jackson. Lets send Lee Fowler and Chuck out to talk to him. 4/4/2006 11:52:22 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Money talks...if we're really throwing around 1.5+ Mil, that's a huge upgrade to Wright...nearly double 4/4/2006 11:55:35 AM |
Waluigi All American 2384 Posts user info edit post |
dont stop there, jackson! jackson! 4/4/2006 11:56:05 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
for anybody who is discrediting david glenn, you are a moron. he is one of the most respected acc writers out there. he knows his shit more than anyone else out there and i would trust what he says about the whole situation more than anyone else 4/4/2006 12:09:26 PM |
gface All American 593 Posts user info edit post |
^agree 4/4/2006 12:10:53 PM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
I am not sure why everyone is talking about Jay Wright as the next coach. Have ya'll heard rumors we have contacted him, Jay isn't an ACC boy, so why all this talk about him? 4/4/2006 12:25:54 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I can tell you with absolute certainty that Rick is fascinated with the idea of coaching at N.C. State"" |
i think i just creamed my pants.4/4/2006 12:31:07 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am not sure why everyone is talking about Jay Wright as the next coach. Have ya'll heard rumors we have contacted him, Jay isn't an ACC boy, so why all this talk about him?" |
Rumors that he's on the list, yeah. But just rumors at this point.
All I can say is that if it was my choice, Wright would be the very first guy I called.4/4/2006 12:33:11 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree 4/4/2006 1:19:54 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.timesleader.com/mld/philly/sports/colleges/14255985.htm?source=rss&channel=philly_colleges
Don't know if it's coachspeak or not. I believe this more than I'll believe Barnes, though
Quote : | "On the heels of one of Villanova's most successful basketball seasons, coach Jay Wright's name keeps coming up in coaching vacancy rumors.
Wright squashed some of those yesterday.
While the Naismith coach of the year said he is flattered by being mentioned as a possible candidate for openings at North Carolina State and Oklahoma, he plans to stay put.
"I'm very happy and proud to be at Villanova," he said.
Wright, who finished his fifth season with the Wildcats with an Elite Eight appearance, received a seven-year contract extension in February. Terms of that contract were not released.
Wright said he had not spoken to or been contacted by North Carolina State or Oklahoma. " |
4/4/2006 1:43:15 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't surprise me; I know he's a long shot.
I'd still say make the offer...$1.8 million can get a lot done. 4/4/2006 1:44:23 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
^Money talks.... 4/4/2006 1:46:19 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I still don't think this means he wouldn't listen.
If you haven't noticed by now... or if the rest of you don't follow these coaching situations, this is standard jargon for coaches. It doesn't compromise recruiting, it doesn't lose the fanbase and make the coach look bad if things dont work out, etc.
I think our chances of Wright are slim to none, at best... but this article does nothing to change my feelings about our chances.
We call him, he'll listen. Like you said, money talks.
It's quite interesting that Calipari hasn't said a word though... while Barnes and Wright have. Calipari interviewed for this job when we hired Herb. 4/4/2006 1:50:28 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
if Barnes came here
and brought Tucker with him (Tucker's from Raleigh)
that would be uncanny 4/4/2006 1:56:28 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
You guys should listen to this. Pretty interesting...
http://www.trianglesportstalk.com/audio/apr_2006/andrewjones4-4.mp3
Cliff's notes.... Jones is close to the program. He said 2 days ago he thougth Barnes was a pipe dream, but now he'd probably put it above 50/50 in State's favor....more like 60/40
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ] 4/4/2006 2:01:35 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
That's quite interesting that that idiot reads message boards like this one.... 4/4/2006 2:05:25 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and brought Tucker with him (Tucker's from Raleigh)
that would be uncanny" |
more like un-possible4/4/2006 2:06:16 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
As far as the Jones clip...
I would be pretty pissed if we go through all this and end up hiring Haith. 4/4/2006 2:10:47 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
agreed 4/4/2006 2:11:44 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
I agree. I will be upset if we wind up with Haith.... 4/4/2006 2:11:54 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
if Fowler hires Frank Haith, his job should be taken from him by force. 4/4/2006 2:12:33 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
and so should Haith's 4/4/2006 2:17:41 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "fans should be patient" |
Talking about hiring Haith... hahahaha.. Patience, yea State fans are all about some patience.4/4/2006 2:17:51 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Incidentally, it seems Herb also had another recruit locked up and ready to come here.
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1137835131686
Whoever takes the job is going to have to act fast on filling his first class. 4/4/2006 2:17:53 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
new article, or article link on packpride for wright...any links? 4/4/2006 2:18:15 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^It pretty much says there is about a .00001% chance we get him. I'm hearing that he won't even let us interview him.
We're fucking pathetic. 4/4/2006 2:20:32 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
That post is what's pathetic. 4/4/2006 2:24:15 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
So how long does this drag out before it really becomes a joke? If we don't have a coach in the next week are we fucked? 2 weeks? How long do we give Barnes before we stop chasing him and move onto someone else?? 4/4/2006 2:25:19 PM |
triple r 7 All American 2451 Posts user info edit post |
i know we're all nervous and anxious about who our next coach is going to be, but it has only been a couple days. You don't take a coach away from one of the better basketball programs in the country overnight. There is a courting process involved, so give it some time 4/4/2006 2:28:19 PM |
one00proof Suspended 63 Posts user info edit post |
Though it's safe to say that by next week, this whole Barnes fiasco will be solved hopefully, regardless if he stays in Texas or comes here. 4/4/2006 2:29:55 PM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
Its like fishing you don't jerk at the big fish's first nibble you let him take the bait and then reel him in. Give it time
I'm gona have to go fishin this weekend the more i think about it. 4/4/2006 2:30:15 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
yeah I didn't mean to imply we were already approaching panic stage, just wanted to get an idea of when we can expect to start jumping off a bridge if we don't get a coach
... Oh and now you got me wanting to go fishing!! 4/4/2006 2:34:39 PM |
triple r 7 All American 2451 Posts user info edit post |
now you made me want to go bridge jumping
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:35 PM. Reason : .] 4/4/2006 2:35:12 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That post is what's pathetic." |
No...in all seriousness...if we do not get Barnes, Calipari, or Wright...we are a joke. Wright won't even sit down for an interview and Calipari has said he's not even interested (I don't even know if we're interested...I'm kind of split on him). I am still holding out hope from Barnes. Rumors are all over the place that we've got a great chance...yet all the solid media (with quotes from him and his AD), say that we have no chance.
However, I'll hold out for Barnes. If we get him, then all is right in the world. But if we go get a midmajor or a young coach from Miami or A&M...then this whole thing would be a mess. We just gave up a guy who proved himself as a good midmajor coach, who is an established recruiter at a major school, and has pretty much proven himself at the highest level of college basketball. Save yourself the tireless Herb arguments...I've heard him. The bottom line is that we had a guy that was going to keep us in the tournament every year (and he's proven that) and there was still a possibility, with the incoming recruits and possible changes in the coaching style, that we could get even better. And if we were to go from that to an unproven coach....then that is pathetic. I don't see how that can be argued.
Fuck "bringing in new life." We're in great position to hire a big name coach and jump right into the mix with Duke and UNC. Hiring an unproven coach could possibly set us back a couple of years and ruin a great opportunity.4/4/2006 2:37:53 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
well said 4/4/2006 2:39:53 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^^i agree wholeheartedly. i'm really pissed about losing sendek. if we don't get a big name coach, i don't know what i'll do. losing two incredible recruits at least, a good coach, etc... all because our fans are fucking stupid as hell.
i'm still hoping for a big name to bite and come here, but i keep having this sinking feeling that our basketball program is going down the drain now.
i just don't see any scenario where hiring an "up and comer" or unproven coach would be an improvement over herb. those '07 recruits could have been our ticket to championships, and now we'll never find out.
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:43 PM. Reason : ] 4/4/2006 2:41:31 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
That's pretty much why I was against firing Herb... UNLESS you made a major improvement... If we don't get the big name guy we are taking a huge risk that may/may not pan out and it may take a few years for it to pan out anyways.... At least with Herb... nevermind.. not going to start this all up again....
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ^] 4/4/2006 2:42:19 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Wright said he still may come depending on who the coach is. It will be much harder to get him, but I'm sure he's gonna be the first junior the new coach calls when he gets here. If its a big name, then we might be in good shape. 4/4/2006 2:47:12 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
^^We DIDN'T FIRE HERB! Herb left because there was a team offering him a job where there are no expectations, and no retarded fans calling for his lynching after a bad loss...yet. Some of You People will have yourselves to blame if we don't get the big name coach because he is afraid of your stupid ignorant asses.
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:48 PM. Reason : ^] 4/4/2006 2:48:36 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
^nobody on this site ran herb off, big money donors are to blame...herb is gone move on 4/4/2006 2:50:18 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I DIDNT SAY WE FIRED HIM "ass hate".. I'm just saying that I was against firing him before he left.. And I was pissed at the assholes that ran him off! 4/4/2006 2:50:43 PM |
DaveOT All American 11945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
No...in all seriousness...if we do not get Barnes, Calipari, or Wright...we are a joke. Wright won't even sit down for an interview and Calipari has said he's not even interested (I don't even know if we're interested...I'm kind of split on him). I am still holding out hope from Barnes. Rumors are all over the place that we've got a great chance...yet all the solid media (with quotes from him and his AD), say that we have no chance.
However, I'll hold out for Barnes. If we get him, then all is right in the world. But if we go get a midmajor or a young coach from Miami or A&M...then this whole thing would be a mess. We just gave up a guy who proved himself as a good midmajor coach, who is an established recruiter at a major school, and has pretty much proven himself at the highest level of college basketball. Save yourself the tireless Herb arguments...I've heard him. The bottom line is that we had a guy that was going to keep us in the tournament every year (and he's proven that) and there was still a possibility, with the incoming recruits and possible changes in the coaching style, that we could get even better. And if we were to go from that to an unproven coach....then that is pathetic. I don't see how that can be argued.
Fuck "bringing in new life." We're in great position to hire a big name coach and jump right into the mix with Duke and UNC. Hiring an unproven coach could possibly set us back a couple of years and ruin a great opportunity." |
I think that post pretty much nails my thoughts on it.
I was a Herb supporter, but the fact is I'm a State fan first. I would've been on the fire-Herb bandwagon in a second if we had a better coach lined up.
As it is, we have a chance to take a big step up. If we fail at that, then this is a big fuckup.4/4/2006 2:53:25 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
^^^the big money donors liked herb and wanted him to stay. if not for them, he would have been fired ages ago
[Edited on April 4, 2006 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ] 4/4/2006 2:53:41 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
are people at Texas worried about this?
I know they dont really give a shit about basketball, but I'd be curious to know what they're thinking. 4/4/2006 2:53:49 PM |
JWHWolf All American 3320 Posts user info edit post |
^I'm sure that the money Texas has made in Basketball talks.... 4/4/2006 2:55:27 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
the only texas basketball home game that was sold out all year was the one where they honored the football team at halftime.
here is the texas board: http://mb15.scout.com/ftexaslonghornsfrm1 4/4/2006 3:18:58 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^
that's awesome!
If he came to State, the red/white game would have 19,722+ people there..... 4/4/2006 3:23:58 PM |