haha thaz so racist

6/23/2011 10:23:47 PM

that is incredible

6/23/2011 10:37:13 PM

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"Do you think the NCAA would be making a big deal out of this or DRAGGING it out so long if this were a small D II school? No, they have a high visibility school in their crosshairs and they are milking it for all they can. They have a chance to hold the hammer over the head of a school with a previously godd track record and they want the visibility that goes with it."

Only a few posts up from that they're all jerking each other off about how OSU is so powerful therefore the NCAA protects them. which is it?

And why would the NCAA "milk it"? It's not like they're making money from investigating a school, if anything they potentially lose money.



[Edited on June 23, 2011 at 10:44 PM. Reason : ]

6/23/2011 10:43:35 PM

Yes, the NCAA is doing this to keep their name in the news. The NCAA wants to be a household name!

6/23/2011 10:58:15 PM

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"previously godd track record"

And this is why we hate you. Because of your godd like complex.

6/24/2011 6:46:05 AM

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"We went ahead and proactively sacrificed an entire season, which likely would have resulted in us being at least ACC Champs. "

At least ACC champs

6/24/2011 1:10:12 PM

gotta love seasons played on paper

6/24/2011 1:28:38 PM

I love the IC people that are convinced the media is out to get them and want to boycott all local sports media.

there's an entire thread of butthurt people on their premium board. talking about making phone calls to 99.9 and the N&O until Giglio and others are fired. pathetic.

6/24/2011 1:33:06 PM

if anything, all that attention will ensure they keep their jobs. if they create a stir, they sell papers and get online traffic.

6/24/2011 1:41:29 PM

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"The ncaa is so full of itself. They are so truly pathetic and how the real academic institutions put up with their ways is embarrassing. How they do their investigations is so slipshod and arbitrary and how anyone has any faith in what they do and their rulings is beyond me. At some point, some athletes and lawyers are going to get fed up and sue them and because they fall under control of the member institutions, OUR university could end up being drug into the mess they create. They really believe they are above all laws and rules that govern our great country and our like an island unto themselves which I doubt our court system will agree with."

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"So everybody in the NOA is a jerk? Glad you are so PERFECT and have NEVER done anything wrong or that you wished later you hadn't done! So those players that came back last year after their suspensions and actually are coming back this year that did commit academic violations are jerks too. --------------------------------------------- --- synreco wrote: All the whining about the NCAA seems a little childish to me. They seem to be doing what they are supposed to do with a reasonable set of procedures. Why isn't the anger directed at the real jerks - Blake, Wiley, Austin, Little, Quinn, the other players who committed violations, and Davis"

Because scout's quote system is weird, this one is hard to read. "synreco" wrote the bottom post and the top post is a response to that. I thought synreco was making a decent point...

6/24/2011 8:53:45 PM

surprised "synreco" wasn't immediately banned

6/24/2011 8:57:05 PM

No shit. They ban anyone that thinks UNC should bare any responsibility.

6/24/2011 9:46:22 PM

I love internet banter in small doses. If you stay entrenched in it, like a lot of guys on the scout forums, you're never going to be able to lighten up.

Remember all the CTC threads and "where there's smoke, there's fire"? Where did all that IC passion go?

6/24/2011 9:57:28 PM

I went over there and looked at a few threads yesterday and one of their posters said something about getting beat by their rival all the time. Well another one chimed in with this

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"Over the last 18 years our record vs. ncst in football is 11-7. That's hardly getting beat everytime you play."

Now why would they choose the 18 year period. Why not a nice round 10, 20, 25, or 30. Well in 1993 that's when their 7 game win streak started over Mike O'Cain. I can make the numbers look entirely different. Since 2000 State is 7-4 against the cheaters. Or hell let's go back even farther. Since 1986 State is 13-11 against them.

6/26/2011 9:18:18 AM

^That's why I hate when UNC fans mention the series record. They are 63-31-6 against us...However they didn't lose to us until the 14th meeting (and after 1955 they led the series 34-3-6). Since 1955, the series record is 29-28-0 in UNC's favor. Hardly domination. And in the ACC era, UNC leads 32-26. That's pretty even. It's funny how they refuse to admit that over the last 50 years this has been a pretty even series. No one gives a shit about what happened in 1913

6/26/2011 10:24:13 AM

Also for a large majority of the time until Case died we basically de-emphasized football because Case wanted the athletic department to be 100% committed to basketball. That's why we played in Riddick for so long.

6/26/2011 12:10:26 PM

^Good point. While the series record is heavily in their favor, a good barometer of success is to look at ACC era statistics. And that's a pretty even record, slightly in their favor. This is not as one-sided as UNC fans would have everyone think it is.

6/26/2011 2:24:51 PM

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"63-31-6 "

ouch

6/26/2011 4:34:25 PM

Yeah, that's a great statistic to use out of context to troll NC State message boards

6/26/2011 4:36:06 PM

a far from objective stat

6/26/2011 4:37:09 PM

it's the record, how is it not objective?

6/26/2011 4:42:52 PM

I don't know if it's objective, but it's pretty much irrelevant

It ignores that most of those wins came before fucking WWII, or that State didn't even field a varsity team for a long time, or that for a 20 year period in the 40s, 50s and 60s, all but one game was played at Kenan.

6/26/2011 4:45:53 PM

"We have two national championships in basketball!"

"Who cares about the all time record in football? That shit was forever ago!"

6/26/2011 4:54:42 PM

i don't think anyone is downplaying the football games played in the 70s and 80s

6/26/2011 4:55:52 PM

I'm not trying to make a serious point. People just like to bring up historical records when they benefit their team/viewpoint.

Really though, I don't give a shit about football games played in the 70's or 80's. Recent success is all that really matters. Bringing up historical records when your team has been losing recently in the series is incredibly lame. If some Michigan fan were bring up the historical record as they're coming up on a decade of losses to OSU, I would hope they get called on that bullshit. Same thing with UNC fans although it's not quite as extreme at this point

6/26/2011 5:16:13 PM

Ah, yes, the 60/30 stat. I really got upset at our losses in the 1800s, especially since we didn't even start giving out our first round of scholarships (some were partial) until the 1930s, no excuse for an intramural team to lose. Especially crushing was the first loss in 1894, only to be followed up by the second loss 8 days later. Yes sirreee, it would be fair to UNC if they had to play duke in hoops four times in the doherty year they went 8-20, would have been completely fair where everyone was on scholarship. We were shut out against UNC in football until the 7th game and were shutout 10 of the first 11 games. But hey, intramurals are the same thing as division one football --Dan Hawkins

6/26/2011 8:12:32 PM

This ain't intramurals, brother. This is division I football.

6/26/2011 9:39:14 PM

The only record I'm concerned with at this point is the record under the butch " we are contending for national championship" davis era

And the way it looks that's gonna turn out to be big 0-for for his entire career at UNC...

6/26/2011 10:49:11 PM

In comparing NC State's past NCAA transgressions to UNC's current issues:

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"Remember. One player, Charles Schakleford, taking almost FIVE times as much as the worst Carolina offender, Marvin Austin. And that's just ONE State player. Kind of puts the magnitude of that institutions deeds in perspective, doesn't it? Kind of like a serial rapist trying to criticize a jaywalker, isn't it?"

What. The. Fuck.

6/27/2011 8:58:47 PM

Why would Lawrence Taylor criticize a jay walker?

6/27/2011 9:01:47 PM

haha, but thats different, Shackleford had to earn his money

6/27/2011 9:04:05 PM

those guys are like the bush administration.

6/28/2011 8:34:10 PM

Those fuckers just can't get over Sweezy/Bryan/etc issue from last summer

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1408&t=7628077

6/29/2011 4:46:16 PM

i regularly make fun of the whole PED issue they keep trying to bring up on all the news forums; its fun to turn it around on them

6/29/2011 4:52:08 PM

If only people knew how often private schools get away with their players busted for smoking pot. Trust me, at The U players get busted like every couple weeks but it gets swept under the rug...

6/29/2011 4:56:46 PM

lol Bobby

6/29/2011 5:02:37 PM

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"So I seem to remember they were caught with another banned drug than just the ephedrine. Weren't there pills intended for use by cancer patients to gain/keep weight on also found in the apartment? This is serious stuff. Someone should look into this. This should all be brought to light. Someone had to know what was going on over there."

I like how he says "this should be brought to light" as if only a few people on IC know about this...it's not like there's a huge cover up going on. When it happened, it was reported (including the "PEDs") in the N&O and other outlets. This was fairly well documented...it was news went it happened and it made the news when they were cleared because of an illegal invasion (or whatever it was).

6/29/2011 5:38:03 PM

UNC fans hate people with asthma

6/29/2011 5:41:52 PM

That explains their fetish with pine trees

6/29/2011 5:43:07 PM

I work with a total unc homer. He thinks the players did nothing wrong because "they should be getting paid anyway" . You cant win with these guys....

6/30/2011 12:05:06 AM

From one of the mods on IC in a thread about the 216 BD phone number:

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"Still, after all the ridiculously false info, we're still creating threads based on the malicious rumors started by NCSU fans?"

Isn't it a fact that the 216 number is BD's? What's the "malicious rumor" here?

6/30/2011 12:54:52 PM

^ What's good for business and what's right/factual are two differnet things at IC. They are essentially the athletic department's PR machine to get their message out to the Walmart Nation and the few grads that visit the site. The people that work for IC have bills to pay too, they aren't going to say anything or let topics start about something that could be bad press for UNC unless it's already picked up by other media outlets, such as the NOI, then the LOA. They know they can't refute that, so they have to talk about it and minimize the damage with spin. I'm pretty sure UNC let's the IC writers on the team plane/team hotel/sit two rows behind Roy etc. It's buddy buddy to the Nth degree, they are an extension of the athletic department in reality.

Until it comes out in the national media or the local papers that Butch had another cell phone, they are going to sit on the fact that his university cell phone (zero calls) was submitted and say case closed. Of course Butch has a cell phone of some sort that he used for his coaching position. But until that number is confirmed through a legitimate source (i.e. not a rival message board) it's good for business to squash it over at IC. To continue to treat them as anything as a joke is not worth the time to get bent over anything over there. There's plenty of nonsense on any team's board as well, every unranked team thinks they are going 10-2 preseason and every top 25 team thinks they're going to win it all.

They had half their board and a few writers say that even the NOI was nonsense 6 months ago. Well, that came and went, along wiht the 42 page LOA. So, did they admit they were wrong? Of course not, they just move on to the next topic to refute. Better to just poke fun at Walmart Nation or simply ignore them if you can't keep from trying to rationalize what they say.

[Edited on June 30, 2011 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2011 1:36:34 PM

Maybe someone should just call it and ask whose phone it is

6/30/2011 1:50:48 PM

Most numbers dont work now Idb

7/1/2011 12:04:46 PM

Maybe the Cary PD will seize BD's phone and it will get magically erased.

7/1/2011 1:22:26 PM

IQ is mini meltdown mode because they have only one 4* recruit so far. I guess TOB and Beamer are negative recruiting again.

7/2/2011 11:47:32 PM

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"I'm surprised no national media outlet has done an article on the irregularities in UNC's punishments versus other, more high profile football programs. It seems like it would be an easy one to write...plenty of examples. We're the only program that welcomed the NCAA onto campus when they began to investigate. Thus far, that hasn't paid any dividends."

7/7/2011 7:16:11 PM

^hahaha

That is funny. We welcomed them with open arms, like you have a choice in the matter.

7/7/2011 7:29:47 PM

we allowed the police to arrest us instead of giving chase, we should have all charges dropped

7/7/2011 7:30:43 PM

^ , ^^ and there's no proof that they did "welcome them with open arms"...that's all stuff from the UNC side (and is Baddour really going to say "we don't plan to cooperate"?). The word "mislead" appeared an awful lot in the NOA...but I guess those were just rogue individuals

7/7/2011 9:17:20 PM