Clifton All American 4711 Posts user info edit post |
I don't believe Keatts should go to Pitt, but their T's are deep. 3/9/2018 4:04:32 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
<3 u e man 3/9/2018 5:19:36 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Scrumples thinks he's funny. 3/9/2018 7:10:47 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Took a team projected to finish in the basement to a #9 seed. Credible 3/11/2018 7:36:25 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
+10 for getting us back to the NCAA’s for the first time in three years. 3/11/2018 10:03:28 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Because he got us in the tourney, Keatt's contract was automatically extended 1 year and he got a raise of $110,000.
+110,000 credibility. 3/12/2018 9:04:44 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Team that finished the season looked like the team everyone expected in the preseason 3/15/2018 6:43:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
you live a miserable life 3/15/2018 6:44:59 PM |
Kickstand All American 11595 Posts user info edit post |
+5 for getting his team to the tourney in year 1
-5 for having players waste energy on a weak press 3/15/2018 6:46:16 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
+cred for making the tourney and making this season much more fun than any of us expected. I’m eager to see how this team looks next year with even more of KK’s guys and more time in his system. There are obvious concerns defensively and with rebounding. I think some of that can be corrected/improved with better personnel 3/15/2018 6:46:27 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Bitter end but he was ahead of schedule this year. Want to see how he addresses some schematic issues after turning over the roster. We know he's good, but is he system good or actually good? Can't really tell with the roster issues we had this year. 3/15/2018 6:54:03 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^ agreed. Next years team will be a lot of new faces. But it’ll be more guys he recruited for his style. So hopefully the personnel matches what we’re trying to do better. 3/15/2018 7:42:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I'm feeling okay about ncsu basketball, looking forward to next season 3/15/2018 8:02:26 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
We scored 83 points in a NCAA tourney game in a season where we started not even good enough for the NIT.
Good job Keatts, but now the bar is set. 3/15/2018 8:18:17 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Good regular season, much better than expected. Postseason was awful. I hope he comes up with a better defensive plan for next year. If he is going to stick with the full court press we need to get so much better at getting back because I got tired of seeing our big men left 2 or 3 on 1 for an easy layup. 3/15/2018 11:31:00 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a little worried about Keatts with the way the season ended TBQH. Lowe and Gottfried both overperformed their first years too, and those teams got better in the postseason, not worse. 3/16/2018 10:16:04 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not 3/16/2018 10:19:08 AM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty terrible to close the season losing those 3/4, but I'm still pumped for next year.] 3/16/2018 10:25:57 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm a little worried about Keatts with the way the season ended TBQH. Lowe and Gottfried both overperformed their first years too, and those teams got better in the postseason, not worse." |
i think you're putting too much stock in the last 3 losses of the year. and, tbh, Lowe and Gottfried's year 1 success has really no bearing at all on Keatts's first year or any year going forward. especially considering that Gott took over a much more talented team.
i'm not saying KK is above any form criticism. i just think it's really premature to be worried about his future because his overachieving year 1 team ended the season with a couple bad games.
[Edited on March 16, 2018 at 11:22 AM. Reason : f]3/16/2018 11:21:11 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Relax guys. Our best and most consistent offensive players this season were AL "NO NO NO YES" FREEMAN and OMER "soft as charmin" YURTSEVEN.
Both of them were big negatives on the defensive end. Both of them probably gone next season.
I'm as disappointed as the next guy with how our season ended, but there are a lot of reasons to have hope for next season.
-We give Abu's and --bless his heart--narddog's minutes to two capable and highly athletic freshmen bigs. They both rebound and play D at minimum. -We replace Al's and Yurt's come and go offensive production with more balanced scoring from Bryce, Daniels and Dorn (maybe Batts figures out how to shoot over the summer) -Markell Johnson takes full control over the offense as a Junior and Beverly becomes the second unit spot shooter he was meant to be -Another off-season of Keatts conditioning and defensive schemes. 3/16/2018 1:01:30 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
St. Nard the Selfless
GNSP 3/16/2018 1:45:59 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^I agree with a lot of that, but it is a little concerning that all our bigs are unknown at this point. They could be a step-up from Lennard and Abu, and they could just as easily be a step-down (Abu was an athletic high 4-star and was ranked the 2nd best player out of Massachusetts- Goodluck Okonoboh was #1). 3/16/2018 2:44:48 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
I honestly cant see how the new bigs could be any worse than Abu. Worst case scenario would be they are the same.
Lennard never had the size/athleticism to compete on a regular basis in the ACC. Both of these kids do.
If they can rebound and play average D, we are already in a better place. Losing Yurt's offense production in the front court will hurt but I think our new guard talent will make up for that. 3/16/2018 2:56:06 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I really do wonder what happened to Abu. Was it his injury? Did he get lazy? Did he not mesh well with Keatts? He seemed to be just as passionate as ever with his cheering/celebrating/interviews, but he definitely regressed this year, he just seemed to constantly make silly mistakes. His senior season was his worst at State.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3138158/abdul-malik-abu
[Edited on March 16, 2018 at 3:10 PM. Reason : (stats)] 3/16/2018 3:03:29 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone keeps blaming the injury, but was Abu really that much better last year or the year before?
I know he had more points, but I think it was more because we had no other options than any amazing skill he displayed.
His bball IQ has always been pretty questionable, but my guess is someone got in his ear and told him he needed an outside shot for the NBA. So he started cranking more long 2s this year and didn't make many.
His D got exposed because Keatt's system seems to require more from the big men. Gott would have his guards going under screens so the bigs just had to show on a screen and then run back to their man and help defense rarely happened.
With Keatts, the bigs often switched on screens and then had to constantly make the weak side rotations--especially when Abu and Yurt played together. That lead to lots of Abu being out of position and dumb fouls.
He seems like a nice kid, so I don't want to shit on him too hard and I hope he can find a place playing ball overseas. 3/16/2018 3:13:51 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Good points.
Yep, he seems like a good guy, hope he's successful somewhere. 3/16/2018 3:17:31 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "was Abu really that much better last year or the year before?" |
Yes, he was. Comparing this year to last year:
FG efficiency: -12% FT efficiency: -22% Points/Minute: -16% Rebounds/Minute -9%3/16/2018 3:58:41 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yep, he seems like a good guy, hope he's successful somewhere." |
He has a promising rap career.]3/16/2018 4:01:32 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Noone is arguing that statistically he was worse this year. I am arguing that he was the same player skill wise, he was just a better fit to have good statistics with Gott than Keatts. Alot of it could just be because he played alot of 4 with Yurt at the 5 so he was farther from the basket. He took more long shots. He guarded (very loose definition of this word) smaller guys.
I mean, his defense, shooting and bball IQ have never been great. His hands are god awful. 3/16/2018 4:34:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Points/Minute: -16%" |
Quote : | "Rebounds/Minute -9%" |
How do those #'s work?3/16/2018 7:27:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Rebounds per minute played...as opposed to per game. since his mins/game have dropped off so much, it wouldn’t be accurate to compare stats on a per game basis. 3/16/2018 8:38:27 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I am concerned that we gave up over 90 points in our two tournament games. Where is the defense? 3/16/2018 11:02:25 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Hamilton leaving for Eastern Kentucky job 3/17/2018 1:34:54 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Exactly. Have to base everything on averages to compensate for significantly less playing time. Like how ERA is per every 9 total innings and not per individual game, since the number of innings pitched in a game varies so much.
[Edited on March 17, 2018 at 1:43 AM. Reason : -] 3/17/2018 1:40:43 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^^good for him...he made the jump from Hargrave coach to D1 HC pretty quick. 3/17/2018 3:51:10 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hamilton leaving for Eastern Kentucky job" |
or maybe not3/18/2018 7:54:27 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Tore his patella. -3 credibility 4/12/2018 8:25:27 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
He tore his kneecap? I don't think you can tear bone. 4/12/2018 8:36:12 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck off I'm not even gonna edit it 4/12/2018 8:43:54 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
He went 3-0 in the pick-up games before he tore it. So +3. 4/13/2018 8:00:25 AM |
Kickstand All American 11595 Posts user info edit post |
How many years probation does a program get for the coach getting caught playing pick-up games? 4/13/2018 12:47:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
PI!!!!!1 https://packinsider.com/2018/12/14/release-nc-state-approves-new-contract-for-kevin-keatts/A
Quote : | "The NC State Board of Governors approved Friday a new six-year contract for second-year men’s basketball Kevin Keatts." |
12/14/2018 1:09:07 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
I really like Keatts. But this seems a tad premature. Maybe it’s in part due to Yow’s coming retirement? 12/14/2018 2:46:12 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
Gotta pay for them $900 loafers somehow 12/14/2018 2:49:50 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
UNCW 2014 7-23 (3-13) UNCW 2015 17-12 (12-6) UNCW 2016 23-8 (14-4) UNCW 2017 29-6 (15-3) UNCW 2018 11-21 (7-11)
NC State 2017 15-17 (4-14) NC State 2018 21-12 (11-7) NC State 2019 9-1 (0-0)
We're winning 25+ games this year guys 12/15/2018 5:14:15 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Dumbasses on Twitter and the wral headline keep calling Keatts new contract a "6 year extension" 12/15/2018 7:35:48 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah announcer said it multiple times today. 12/15/2018 8:31:22 PM |
slumdog Veteran 104 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone? 12/19/2018 9:16:31 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
12/19/2018 9:17:41 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Do we not have a Keatts driving the train pic? I know it's not the original.. Figured somebody would have made it though 12/19/2018 9:23:49 PM |