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"NC State has been out-scored 141 to 69 on field goals since the start of the 2015 season"

He also posted a yellow pad that we have the worst "fg defense" in the league, ie opposing teams hit a better % against us then anyone else

11/8/2017 4:05:54 PM

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"Unless you think you are a playoff contender there is no reason to schedule a hard OOC slate."

Tell that to Wisconsin. They've got a real chance of going undefeated and being left out of the playoff. Also, how does one know that they are a playoff contender 5-10 years before it happens when these OOC games are scheduled?

11/8/2017 4:10:16 PM

So you're saying Wisconsin is a playoff contended that may miss out bc of bad OOC scheduling?

Sounds like you're arguing FOR their point, not against




Interesting though: I think B10 play 9 conf games so technically they play the same min number of P5 teams

[Edited on November 8, 2017 at 4:18 PM. Reason : E]

11/8/2017 4:16:02 PM

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""NC State has been out-scored 141 to 69 on field goals since the start of the 2015 season""

nice. wait. actually not nice.

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"Tell that to Wisconsin. They've got a real chance of going undefeated and being left out of the playoff. Also, how does one know that they are a playoff contender 5-10 years before it happens when these OOC games are scheduled?"

0 chance that happens. undefeated p5 conference champ will ALWAYS make the playoff.

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"I think B10 play 9 conf games so technically they play the same min number of P5 teams"

plus they played BYU this year, who is bad...but would, like ND, count as a P5 OOC. plus a potential conference title game is another conference opponent.

11/8/2017 4:32:19 PM

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"0 chance that happens. undefeated p5 conference champ will ALWAYS make the playoff."

Exactly. In the BCS era, you may have had to do a little extra to get the bump when there were 3-4 undefeated teams to get a championship bid. Now that there is a playoff, win out and be a P5 and you will be in. May be more of an issue if you are a one loss team, but you know what helps you be only a one loss team in the first place? Playing a shit Noncon schedule.

Also I don't think recruits care more about who they are playing as much as winning and the chance to stunt on people. I don't think anyone is going, "I want to play for that 3-9 team cause they get stomped by good teams like Bama and Penn State all the time".

11/8/2017 5:05:36 PM

also those high impact games bang your team up and diminish your chances of winning conference games. thisbisnt basketball

11/8/2017 6:09:26 PM

I don't think anybody is advocating for a tougher OOC

11/8/2017 7:45:43 PM

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"Give me P5 matchups or ECU/App State over cupcakes. At least WVU will be a tune up for air raid teams in our conference (Syracuse) next year."

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"it definitely is smart to schedule some games that get us more exposure and help in recruiting and stuff like that. "

to me that reads like advocating to me

11/8/2017 8:26:56 PM

^goddamn son, you HAVE to schedule a P5 team. aside from following that rule, nobody's saying we should be playing a buncha P5 teams. i said nobody's advocating for a tougher OOC. this year we played SCar and @ND OOC. nobody says it should be tougher than it currently is. christ. sounds like folks are advocating for, roughly, our current schedule structure. G5 teams like Marshall are roughly ECU equivalent (in general, obviously ECU is assss this year). so that statement does not really change anything. and the other comment about playing games that give us exposure is, again, something we're already doing. so no...that ain't advocating for much change.

[Edited on November 9, 2017 at 8:07 AM. Reason : v]

11/9/2017 8:04:37 AM

Did we really agree to ECU in 2019? I thought we were done with all of your required ECU games, why would we schedule them?

Let's just schedule Duke as an OOC game since we don't get scheduled to play them anymore

11/9/2017 8:41:00 AM

^I thought NCSU and UNC were on a rotation with having to play ECU every so many years?

11/9/2017 9:14:11 AM

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"nobody says it should be tougher than it currently is. christ. sounds like folks are advocating for, roughly, our current schedule structure."

Can confirm this is what I meant. Wasn't asking to add another P5 school and ECU/App to replace Marshall and Furman to our schedule this year. This year is the typical OOC year for a program in our position. I'd probably divide it up like this:

- 1 game that'll test us. We should win 33%-50% of the time. (ND this year, or generic P5 school)
- 1 game that we probably should win, hopefully regional. We should win 66%-75% of the time. (South Carolina, ECU or App State)
- 1 game against a non-P5 FBS school. We should win 80%-100% of the time. (Marshall this year)
- 1 game against FCS school. (Furman this year)

Those soft OOC schedules were great early in DD's tenure here because it almost guaranteed us to make a bowl despite the fact that we couldn't win more then 3 conference games each year. At this point though, think it's justifiable to expect more.

Can't remember a time when we played more then 2 OOC P5 opponents in the regular season, so this conversation is kinda unwarranted anyways.

11/9/2017 9:55:16 AM

^don't know that i'd include SCar in that second category - i'd keep them in the first category of P5 games. obviously exceptions may arise when we have ND on the schedule, but generally i'd say only one P5 game/year.

11/9/2017 10:14:12 AM

Good point. One P5 game per year that seems to be the norm for us (including ND as a P5 even though technically they're not).

Since 2000, we've only played two P5 schools in the regular season - 2009 (South Carolina and Pittsburg, before they moved to the ACC) and 2003 (Ohio State and Texas Tech).

I could have made a mistake, but I think we've had more seasons where we've avoided any P5 schools then had 2 or more on our schedule.

11/9/2017 10:40:54 AM

Updated CBS mock draft has Finley #2 to the Browns.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-derwin-james-lands-with-seahawks-to-be-kam-chancellors-understudy/

11/10/2017 12:12:56 PM

Oh, it's still that same moron

11/10/2017 12:17:19 PM

that seems insane to me. but if he's anywhere near that, great for him (except that it's Cleveland)...he should totally go

11/10/2017 12:18:11 PM

Agreed its crazy but good to see Finley getting some national press. If nothing else, these mock drafts are getting his name out there to the country as a whole.

11/10/2017 12:33:55 PM

I would come back to school before I went and played QB for the Browns haha

11/10/2017 12:49:54 PM

no doubt he'd get drafted if he went pro this year...just didn't realize first round (let alone #2!) was on the table for him.

11/10/2017 12:58:36 PM

It's not. This dude is literally the only guy on the internet who thinks so. Also his mock drafts are hilariously bad.

[Edited on November 10, 2017 at 1:05 PM. Reason : Motherfucker has a guard mocked as the #1 pick]

11/10/2017 12:59:49 PM

How is Finley better than Mayfield?

11/10/2017 2:26:29 PM

Citrus Bowl or bust

11/13/2017 8:48:30 AM

Like, if I chose a bowl based on opponent, it would be Camping World, dumb as the name is.

Likely Oklahoma State as opposed to Mississippi State again.

Or Military bc it's probably Navy.

[Edited on November 13, 2017 at 10:15 AM. Reason : Citrus probably means us getting donkey punched by Auburn.]

11/13/2017 10:07:33 AM

If someone is going to draft Finley it should be a team in the south. He has been a lot less accurate in the cold.

11/13/2017 10:25:09 AM

I say this with all honesty, if we attempt another field goal this year, DD should be fired and im not joking.

[Edited on November 13, 2017 at 10:27 AM. Reason : s]

11/13/2017 10:26:56 AM

^^or a dome team

11/13/2017 10:33:12 AM

Something to keep in mind for tailgates/transportation to games in the near future:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/traffic/article179277606.html?utm_content=buffer08819&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

11/13/2017 11:19:08 AM

Oh man I work over here near that intersection fuck that shit haha

11/13/2017 12:11:37 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-browns-get-myles-garrett-a-running-mate-in-bradley-chubb/

Chubb #1 overall and Finley a first rounder

11/15/2017 2:27:49 PM

Finley in buffalo cold.

11/15/2017 3:17:11 PM

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"Chubb #1 overall and Finley a first rounder"

And we still cant win a conference championship. /DebbieDowner

11/15/2017 3:28:44 PM

I think we should make posting that idiot's mock drafts a suspendable offense.

I don't even bother reading them once I see Chris Trapasso in the byline.

11/15/2017 3:43:55 PM

unfortunately having a single lottery pick on your team isn't really enough people to make that big an impact on the field.

It's 33 v 33 out there.

11/15/2017 4:27:44 PM

damn

[Edited on November 15, 2017 at 6:11 PM. Reason : bc killed finleys stock]

11/15/2017 6:11:14 PM

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"I say this with all honesty, if we attempt another field goal this year, DD should be fired and im not joking."

What is even more amazing is the fact we have a kicker on the roster who made a 60 yarder in HS and routinely kicked it in the endzone on kickoffs last year and we decided to move him to safety. Maples hasn't attempted a single kick while Bambard and Wise suck it up.

11/15/2017 7:22:54 PM

Are we really playing JMU and Delaware? Who the fuck scheduled that? Under no circumstances should you ever intentionally play a good FCS team. It should be Western Carolina's and Liberty's every season. Fuck, call up Elon

11/15/2017 7:30:29 PM

Yo Liberty is alright mane.

11/16/2017 8:08:39 AM

Liberty is alright? Are you just saying that because you go to one of the churches affiliated with their cult?

11/16/2017 8:52:32 AM

They beat Baylor.

11/16/2017 9:14:30 AM

isn't liberty moving to fbs?

11/16/2017 10:07:54 AM

just give me a bowl game we can win

[Edited on November 19, 2017 at 12:12 AM. Reason : k]

11/19/2017 12:10:42 AM

The question is will anyone care about the game against UNC now? Also what mediocrity bowl will we get?

11/19/2017 7:17:21 AM

^no, and their new QB can move the ball, which will be easy to do against our defense. We'll prolly lose that game and end the best season we can have under doeren at 7-5

11/19/2017 9:40:28 AM

Baylor sucks now, btw.

Buy your plane tickets for Charlotte. Route through another city, make it feel like a "vacation."

11/19/2017 9:47:24 AM

fire the D (Dave D or Dave Hux or the whole defense)

11/19/2017 11:38:53 AM

^^^ why is this the best season we can ever have under DD?

11/19/2017 11:44:51 AM

people think that because our srs on the dline who had 0 sacks and fumbling jaysam are apparently irreplaceable

11/19/2017 11:54:15 AM

So we will squeak one out against Fedora's worst team and beat USF in Tampa. Give him a raise. TOB fired for 7, 8, 9 win seasons.

11/19/2017 12:20:30 PM

7,8,9 win seasons by tob...but not in that order. Also if we beat UNC, 6-2 is our best conference record in ~25 years

11/19/2017 12:25:17 PM