Which one was 497? I remember having to take E115 and E110 or 121 or something like that. I thought 497 was like the FE Exam Prep course.

8/23/2011 11:09:44 PM

E497F. Sat in a lecture hall a few times while Bottomley talked about something. Never did any work. Got an A.
Still have no idea what that class was supposed to be about. Just 1 credit hour, though.

497 and 115 seemed to be tightly linked. I remember being a freshman and not being able to tell what each class was supposed to teach me. Perhaps I learned how to log in to the Unix system in 115 at some point...

[Edited on August 23, 2011 at 11:13 PM. Reason : ]

8/23/2011 11:12:27 PM

yeah E497F but I guess the F is maybe for Freshman so its not a typical 400 level course?

I think I took it in Leazzar, or did I take E115 in Leazar?

[Edited on August 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM. Reason : who knows!]

8/23/2011 11:14:52 PM

yeah, E497F was the "intro to Engineering" BS class that all engineers had to take. I can't think of a more worthless course I ever took. They ended up saying that they took the 497 number because all the other 100 numbers were taken, or something like that.

8/23/2011 11:45:21 PM

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[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 12:01 AM. Reason : ,]

8/24/2011 12:00:07 AM

Yeah in 2005 that was E101 and E115. Annoying classes..

8/24/2011 12:18:31 AM

I didn't mind E115, I got an easy A and a basic intro to linux

I'll bet Marvin Austin could've learned a thing or two in that class though

8/24/2011 12:22:32 AM

8/24/2011 12:39:00 AM

interesting thoughts in this article about the possible future (or lack of a future) for the ACC after all of these violiations:

http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2011/08/22/can-the-flagging-acc-survive-in-a-football-driven-industry/

This line in particular caught my attention:

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"If you’re Florida State … if you’re Clemson … if you’re Virginia Tech … if you’re North Carolina State … do you want to stay in the ACC and play Class AAA football if you have big-league options? (And surely some among those will.) "

I don't think I've ever heard us mentioned in the same class as those other three by a non NCSU homer.

8/24/2011 4:05:41 AM

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"(And surely some among those will.) "

some, not all, and I dont think we are in the same class as VT, FSU and Clemson

8/24/2011 8:22:10 AM

With Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, and Kentucky banded together they can't get the 9 necessary votes to get FSU or Clemson in the conference. Yet, they continue to be the first names that pop up. It's a head scratcher to me.

8/24/2011 8:44:47 AM

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"Lee_Folwer Coach L Folwer marvin austin ripped one of his tits at giants practice yesterday. i could swear i felt my house shake. 13 minutes ago"

8/24/2011 8:55:42 AM

^^^Yeah, the only team we've had any success against is FSU. I think this represents our record against those teams in the last 10 years:

VT: 1 - 3
Clemson: 2 - 8
FSU: 5 - 5



[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 9:01 AM. Reason : -]

8/24/2011 9:00:24 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/08/24/1431497/flags-are-down.html


N&O Editorial, there's some letters to the Editor as well if you want ot click to them.

8/24/2011 9:03:25 AM

Va Tech can go (though id prefer not) but fuck an ACC without FSU Clem, or god forbid NCSU

8/24/2011 9:36:46 AM

sounds like someone from PP hacked the editorial login, haha

8/24/2011 9:38:33 AM

ahahaha some dumb cunt wrote a letter to the editor saying it's not the professor's job to catch stuff like plagiarism

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/08/23/1429211/not-professors-job.html

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM. Reason : .]

8/24/2011 10:16:54 AM

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"UNC Class of 2012, Communications/African Studies, Carrboro"

must be friends with marvin

8/24/2011 10:28:55 AM

^^ That letter probably was plagiarized from another letter. The Carolina Way

8/24/2011 10:31:48 AM

Sorry, but what the fuck is African Studies anyway? And how can you major in that and then talk about the academic reputation of your university as if you actually had a real major? Maybe I'm being a massive racist but it seems pretty clear to me that "African Studies" is just some bullshit program for people who want to feel like they're doing something important by learning about the culture of their "heritage", and more than likely something that they've never even really experienced themselves anyway. Why not get a real major? Like one that will actually provide you with a job, or a meaningful purpose in life? Or are you going to go join the Peace Corps in Africa? That's about the only use I can see for "African Studies."

Sorry.

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 10:43 AM. Reason : Yeah.]

8/24/2011 10:41:56 AM

its no worse than the Puerto Rican basketball players that are majoring in Spanish. Spanish is their fucking first language

8/24/2011 10:46:56 AM

What about americans majoring in English?

8/24/2011 10:54:22 AM

^

8/24/2011 10:55:11 AM

english classes are completely different than foreign language classes.

you dont learn the definition of words, or how to say simple sentences for the first two years of english classes

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM. Reason : asdf]

8/24/2011 11:06:48 AM

UNC people on my facebook giving NC State a hard time because of football tickets being sold on Groupon. jesus

8/24/2011 11:09:10 AM

somebody just sent me that. 4 tickets for the S Alabama game for $78 (half-price).

8/24/2011 11:11:43 AM

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"Butters"

8/24/2011 11:14:47 AM

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"Sorry, but what the fuck is African Studies anyway? And how can you major in that and then talk about the academic reputation of your university as if you actually had a real major? Maybe I'm being a massive racist but it seems pretty clear to me that "African Studies" is just some bullshit program for people who want to feel like they're doing something important by learning about the culture of their "heritage", and more than likely something that they've never even really experienced themselves anyway. Why not get a real major? Like one that will actually provide you with a job, or a meaningful purpose in life? Or are you going to go join the Peace Corps in Africa? That's about the only use I can see for "African Studies." Sorry."

I'm in an African Studies class at State right now with 2 basketball players and (at least) 1 football player. It's not like athletes taking easy classes is anything new, or isolated at UNC. Of course, State grads don't jizz all over themselves talking about the academics at State, unlike UNC fans.

8/24/2011 11:28:17 AM

Is your class easy? Have you taken any others in the major?

8/24/2011 11:39:20 AM

We've only met twice so far, it's not hard yet. Doesn't sounds too taxing either. IIRC, there are no tests (or maybe just not final, can't remember) but there are several projects we'll have to present to the class. It will certainly require some effort, but it shouldn't be too hard to get an A. It's a 200 level course (Austin's was 400 level) and, yes, it is my first course in the major. I'm just taking it to fill an interdisciplinary requirement.

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 12:03 PM. Reason : ]

8/24/2011 12:02:36 PM

just out of curiosity, which basketball players are in your class?

8/24/2011 12:37:26 PM

Zo and Raymond.

8/24/2011 12:39:57 PM

Aww. Would have been funny if it was Wood and Vandy

8/24/2011 1:40:50 PM

Why would our two WHITE players be in that class/major? lol.

8/24/2011 1:47:23 PM

thats why it would be funny

8/24/2011 1:47:54 PM

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"Why would our two WHITE players "

It's "two of our white players"

not "our two white players".

8/24/2011 1:50:22 PM

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"Why would our two WHITE players be in that class/major? "

racist.

8/24/2011 1:52:34 PM

haha the girl that wrote it's not the job of the professor to catch plagiarism has weed as one of her interests and her twitter is full of #stoned hash tags. i'm sure she is doing a fine job of getting educated at the public ivy

8/24/2011 2:05:24 PM

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"We've only met twice so far, it's not hard yet. Doesn't sounds too taxing either. IIRC, there are no tests (or maybe just not final, can't remember) but there are several projects we'll have to present to the class. It will certainly require some effort, but it shouldn't be too hard to get an A. It's a 200 level course (Austin's was 400 level) and, yes, it is my first course in the major. I'm just taking it to fill an interdisciplinary requirement."

Does the grade distribution not include a single F (the unc class in question never hands out an F iirc)? Is this class restricted access (the class in question for UNC reportedly requires special approval to enroll)? Also it isn't like the "entire starting lineup for the basketball team" is in this one class as was claimed in a news article about a Swahili class (assuming it is the same one).

So yes all schools have easy classes but this Swahili class could likely be taking it to a whole new level (and clearly implicate basketball).

8/24/2011 6:59:23 PM

^To answer your questions...here is the grade distribution (does not include my professor, he is new...or at least new to this course): http://ncsu.blinkness.com/class/ncsu-afs241
No, the class is not restricted access.
There are 2 bball players in the course (Brown and Raymond) and at least 1 football that I can recognize (DJ Greene...there may be others but I don't recognize any more).

And I wasn't trying to compare the course I'm in to the UNC 400 level Swahili course. Just responding to the poster, jsausely, who was questioning the validity of African Studies courses, in general.

[Edited on August 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM. Reason : ]

8/24/2011 7:29:41 PM

Sorry if it sounded kind of shitty. To me it just sounded like a reinforcement of the Insidecarolina line that "all schools have easy courses so this isn't a big deal". This has potential to be a HUGE deal if it is indeed confirmed that this class has restricted access (a course designed to give athletes good grades) and could turn this into an investigation into the entire athletic department not just football.

8/24/2011 7:50:54 PM

^Oh I absolutely agree with you...there's nothing wrong with a professor grading in a manner that results in few D's and F's. However, there is absolutely something wrong with a professor using a different grading system for athletes, or only offering a course to athletes, or restricting access to certain "easy" classes to allow athletes in them. There does seem to be something fishy about a student-athlete taking a 400 level class prior to taking his required remedial English course. I'm not getting my hopes up for the media digging much more up here, but I will definitely be interested in what they find....if they find some damning evidence, this could be huge.

8/24/2011 8:01:17 PM

i can only imagine the feeding frenzy that would have ensued at WRAL and the N&O if anything remotely similar were found at NCSU. I commend them for at least reporting on it, but I wish they would actually dig and start demanding records to either prove this shit or clear the air

8/25/2011 1:11:42 AM

have you not been following this at all?

8/25/2011 1:21:18 AM

yes. they've written an editorial bemoaning it, but, AFAIK, they haven't demanded any actual investigations or requested school records to see who is getting into the class. They've also done a shitty job overall with their bully pulpit in berating UNC over not releasing bona fide public records.

8/25/2011 1:38:05 AM

just as I thought

you haven't been following it at all

just the headlines

8/25/2011 1:42:45 AM

I had an Afro American studies course. I was late for the final because I was sting NBA 2k9 and I wet into triple overtime with my friend. I considered that studying.

8/25/2011 8:47:05 AM

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"I had an Afro American studies course. I was late for the final"

lol, oh this racism is killin me inside

8/25/2011 11:44:38 AM

I thought it was pretty funny.

8/25/2011 11:52:16 AM

Me thinks lion4russel should be studying more and playing video games less

8/25/2011 11:57:53 AM