wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If I was voting I might go for Trump over Clinton because at least he's more transparent with how shitty he is
they're the same goddamn person" |
THIS
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 8:10 AM. Reason : not the voting part; I'm not voting for that shithead]5/9/2016 8:10:16 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There is no good option for 2016. I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson, because let's face it" |
People like you are teh problem. You say you don't like either primary party candidate. Yet, you continually vote for them.
WTF do you expect to happen in this scenario? As long as shitfucks keep voting for parties instead of individuals, we'll be left with this shit.5/9/2016 8:15:21 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
i voted for trump in the primary and will vote in the general. that was my plan since he announced his candidacy. 5/9/2016 8:23:12 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yes, but when faced with Trump or Clinton, and you know that the third party can't win, whadayado?
You make sure that Trump isn't president, that's what you do. 5/9/2016 8:28:25 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^trump cant win either, so even using your flawed logic then you should vote for the best candidate 5/9/2016 8:31:53 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
im writing in Ross Perot 5/9/2016 8:38:02 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Ralph Nader needs to come the fuck back.
If he had become pres in 2000, the US would be double the country it is now, in terms of awesomeness. 5/9/2016 8:41:45 AM |
jsdail All American 3260 Posts user info edit post |
I'm voting for Deez Nutz...
5/9/2016 8:44:18 AM |
Novicane All American 15416 Posts user info edit post |
*the conservative mass base is hyped up with Trump. the more liberals, democrats and paid protesters protest him the more it solidifies them to get out and vote for Trump. The same people we see at these rallies are the same people in the moral Monday stuff. Working conservative votes are tired of it.
Grass roots and protesting has completely back fired this election cycle in my opinion.
*I am registered Non-Affiliated
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 8:49 AM. Reason : k] 5/9/2016 8:46:27 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Look, I think Trump's campaign has been very well planned from the beginning. If he's not trolling. What he did was look across American demographics and picked a segment that he knows has been left behind and has been waiting for "their" candidate. The blue collar white male. Everything he has said, with the exception of a few newer statements such as the HB2 bill, has been pointed to that crowd. Is that crowd enough to elect him? Maybe not. But do you want to take a chance by making a statement with a Johnson vote? 5/9/2016 8:50:12 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and you know that the third party can't win, whadayado?" |
Third party can win, if all you "least bad option" fucks are actually serious about not liking the D & R candidates and would vote third party.5/9/2016 9:02:26 AM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
I would write in Mickey Mouse before I voted for Trump or Clinton.
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 9:41 AM. Reason : Y'all have drank the kool-aid. Congratulations.] 5/9/2016 9:41:03 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Ok. If I were to consider moving away from the usuals, it certainly doesn't seem like he's trying very hard for my vote. Johnson should get his word out. 5/9/2016 9:52:11 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^Johnson is obviously trying. He did an interview on the ABC Sunday morning show yesterday 5/9/2016 11:32:52 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
Everybody knows cbs sunday mornings are the best. 5/9/2016 11:39:38 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-national-debt-money-print-2016-5
Trump is worse than Clinton, by miles. 5/9/2016 12:10:35 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hear ya, but the chain reaction has already begun. The interesting times are now." |
Ha yes, life is a series of causes and effects, and big choices like who's president have more of an effect than most.
Trump and Clinton are very different, it's flawed reasoning to suggest they're the same.5/9/2016 12:19:41 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Targeting a specific race or gender for votes is only racist/sexist when the targeted group is white males. 5/9/2016 12:23:59 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Ha it's racist when the targeting includes trashing Hispanics and Muslims. 5/9/2016 12:26:26 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
As opposed to those trashing white males? 5/9/2016 12:39:59 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Honestly though, not sure I could socialize with any Trump supporter under the age of 75.
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM. Reason : T] 5/9/2016 12:41:27 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
All you had to do was elect Romney in 2012. Then we wouldn't have to worry about Trump. 5/9/2016 12:49:08 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Do you really want to socialize with someone who actually supports either candidate?
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 12:50 PM. Reason : Wow if Romney had won imagine how tuff the hilary campaign would be right now.] 5/9/2016 12:49:19 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
I'm voting for Howard Dean. 5/9/2016 1:51:51 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Wait maybe if 1 percenter Romney had gotten elected then Bernie would've actually had a chance. Maybe the secret is to vote for the shittiest candidate and hope that the internet doesn't get shut down theres no new internet security acts before shit bounces back
[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 3:52 PM. Reason : because shit alwayz bounces back] 5/9/2016 3:50:45 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A source familiar with Trump’s thinking explained that the billionaire businessman was reluctant to add new layers of policy experts now, feeling it would only muddy his populist message that has been hyperfocused on illegal immigration, trade and fighting Islamic extremists. “He doesn’t want to waste time on policy and thinks it would make him less effective on the stump,” the Trump source said. “It won’t be until after he is elected but before he’s inaugurated that he will figure out exactly what he is going to do and who he is going to try to hire.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/donald-trump-administration-transition-222944#ixzz48CGNmw3h" |
Waayy worse than Hillary. If you've read anything his personal doctor or lawyer has put out so far in the campaign, you should be pretty worried who Trump's going to put into government.5/9/2016 5:35:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
such fear mongering by the left 5/9/2016 6:55:34 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
^^
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Quote : | "Look, I think Trump's campaign has been very well planned from the beginning. If he's not trolling. What he did was look across American demographics and picked a segment that he knows has been left behind and has been waiting for "their" candidate. The blue collar white male. Everything he has said, with the exception of a few newer statements such as the HB2 bill, has been pointed to that crowd." |
This is what i've been saying all along. One of Trumps many critiques is that he has no platform or hard position on topics. I think this was strategically done. If you are $Billionaire trump, even if you are dumb as bricks, you can at least pay someone to make a platform for you. I think most of this shit he blabbers is rhetoric to hype up the Joe the Plumber crowd and his lack of platform is intentional.5/9/2016 8:42:35 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Third party can win, if all you "least bad option" fucks are actually serious about not liking the D & R candidates and would vote third party." | Too many of us actually think the D or R candidate is the best option overall, and even if nobody voted strategically, the D or R would still probably win.5/9/2016 11:43:09 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Too many of us hate 'merica. 5/11/2016 9:23:51 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "even if nobody voted strategically, the D or R would still probably win." |
or no one would get electoral college majority and 12th amendment kicks in:
Pursuant to the Twelfth Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to vote for president if no candidate for president receives a majority of the electoral votes (since 1964, 270 of the 538 electoral votes).
In this event, the House of Representatives is limited to choosing from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state delegation votes en bloc – each delegation having a single vote; the District of Columbia does not receive a vote. A candidate must receive an absolute majority of state delegation votes (i.e., at present, a minimum of 26 votes) in order for that candidate to become the President-elect.5/11/2016 11:10:16 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " but the one person I really don't want in the White House is Sanders and it looks like we won't have to worry about that (Thank God)" |
Would love to know why you think easily the best candidate of the bunch is the one you don't want. Or maybe I don't want to know based on your current views.5/11/2016 1:06:18 PM |
SSS All American 3646 Posts user info edit post |
^ I was wondering that too. To him, SANDERS is the fate worse than death? 5/11/2016 1:25:41 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
5/11/2016 2:06:22 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I was wondering this too and assumed that the reason was the effect that a Bernie Sanders administration's increased spending would have on the deficit, but Donald Trump's original tax proposal would have lowered federal revenue by $9.5 trillion over the next ten years.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/264027-analysis-trump-tax-plan-would-cost-95-trillion 5/11/2016 8:34:31 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
what if we lowered taxes and spending? 5/11/2016 8:39:01 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Impossible.
Once a government program or agency is created it never goes away. For example, even though the TSA is demonstrably ineffective it will never lose funding, get parred back, or re-evaluated in a meaningful way. In fact, it's much more likely to grow larger and encompass more things, just like every other federal program ever. 5/11/2016 8:48:10 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^Exactly! That's why Obamacare sucks. The classic example though is social security. Every time anyone in either party mentions reform, the other party just blocks it, puts out ads explaining that the other party will take your SS away, and hope that is a tipping point to get them in office in a close election. 5/11/2016 9:05:42 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8779 Posts user info edit post |
lets stop funding domestic programs as much and fund Israel's military even more 5/11/2016 9:18:00 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
whoa, buddy. keep making comments like that and someone is going to call you anti-Semitic.
[Edited on May 11, 2016 at 9:22 PM. Reason : fuck israel and the horse they rode in on] 5/11/2016 9:22:11 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
^^I would love it if they would quit giving money to other nations. We give money to help fund the war on drugs in Mexico, we let all of those Syrian refugees come to America, and we give plenty of money away to other places too that we probably shouldn't. I'm all for helping the world like when we sent our military to Haiti after the Earthquake, but at the same time we need to cut everyone off in most situations. We can't constantly try to be the big brother and solve the worlds problems.
[Edited on May 11, 2016 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .] 5/11/2016 9:27:48 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
if you think we send money and troops around the world to help solve other folks' problems, then you have been duped
[Edited on May 11, 2016 at 9:32 PM. Reason : gotta keep selling those rifle$, ammo, boot$, plane$, missile$, helicopter$, etc.] 5/11/2016 9:30:13 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Our military is, in some part at least, a jobs program. I don't necessarily object to it either, but what I do dislike is all the boondoggle hardware programs or purchasing unwanted equipment to support the various businesses in congressional districts.
There would be short term economic pain, but if we dialed back our global scope of operations and forced our allies to actually field a military we would probably end up supplying them and maybe some of those businesses might either diversify or change their businesses to something less reliant on government funding. 5/11/2016 9:36:45 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what if we lowered taxes and spending? " |
How would lowering taxes reduce the deficit?5/11/2016 10:44:49 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
haven't you heard? the deficit doesn't matter. we'll just print some more monopoly money. 5/11/2016 11:21:34 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ the U.S. doesn't assist other countries for pure altruistic purposes, nor does it do so to police the world entirely. -Our military is a jobs program as well. A gigantic one if you include the whole military industrial complex. -in addition, if we want to be relevant, it is necessary to establish a footprint in other parts of the world. -building infrastructure in less developed parts of the world is one way the U.S. makes economic slaves out of other countries. We build billion dollar bridges, dams, airports, etc... using and paying our own citizens while simultaneously allowing these other countries to rack up billions in debt that they have no hope of repaying. We then use that debt to extract natural resources, labor, military favor, and UN votes.
[Edited on May 12, 2016 at 7:39 AM. Reason : Big4country has a 7th graders' understanding of the world. ]] 5/12/2016 7:26:49 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
#stopallwars 5/12/2016 9:03:13 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I'm voting for Trump. I don't know that I am a big fan of any of the circus clowns who ran this time, but the one person I really don't want in the White House is Sanders and it looks like we won't have to worry about that (Thank God). We need some fresh blood in Washington anyway. With all that being said, I don't think Trump is quite the train wreck people make him out to be, he just speaks the truth, but PC American has declared he is racist for it.
We need to shut down our southern border and quit letting the people from Latin America come here illegally. You shouldn't get an American citizenship just for being born on this side of the border. The illegals have undercut a lot of people in the construction industry and other fields. They are a burden on the health system and other welfare programs. I don't know if Trump will do anything about it, but he sounds more serious about it than the other clowns who have previously been in the oval office.
Obamacare is a joke and it sounds like he wants to get rid of that. Something needs to change with that. Healthcare costs have only gone up, not down.
The terrorists causing trouble in today's world are Muslims. Don't fool yourself, it isn't the IRA. I'm cool with shutting down travel from Muslim states to the USA to some degree.
Also, it was anti-Trump crowds protesting at his rallies. There would have been no violence, if they had stayed away. A black man who supported Trump knocked out a white guy carrying an anti-Trump rebel flag that was wearing a KKK robe. What do you expect to happen in that situation? The people supporting Trump, Rubio, Cruz, etc didn't charge the stage at rallies for Clinton, or Sanders. For the most part, supporters of the Republican candidates behaved themselves. 5/12/2016 9:07:10 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I will, if I have the right. 5/12/2016 9:26:44 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You shouldn't get an American citizenship just for being born on this side of the border." |
then go home and cancel your citizenship. put your passport where your mouth is.
Quote : | "The terrorists causing trouble in today's world are Muslims." |
you are unequivocally wrong. you just aren't counting non-muslim terrorism as terrorism.5/12/2016 9:30:42 PM |