5/8/2012 10:09:57 PM

So does the Amendment get automatically put on the books? Or is there any kind of challenge period?

5/8/2012 10:11:10 PM

Sad thing is the people who propose this bill are probably more likely to get caught fucking some other dude at a truck stop then those voting against it. Including the out of the closet homosexuals.

5/8/2012 10:12:59 PM

are you saying there is something wrong with consensual homosexual intercourse?

5/8/2012 10:14:45 PM

tell 'em, fat wesley crusher

5/8/2012 10:17:00 PM

^^Yes, in the same way that any of us bwning each other at truck stops would be looked down upon.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM. Reason : Meet me at exit 101. ]

5/8/2012 10:17:20 PM

HABITUAL

INTER

COURSE

It's illegal here... ya heard?

5/8/2012 10:18:16 PM

Quote :

" You mean to tell me that less educated people are (on average) more bigoted and closed minded regarding social issues???? Notify the press"

That's a lie. I've met a lot of educated people that seem to think they know everything and are twenty times more bigoted than the uneducated. Knowledge can close your mind just as not knowing any better can.

And black people probably didn't come out in full. Proof? Obama only has 79% of the Dem vote. The other 20% voted no preference.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:20 PM. Reason : f]

5/8/2012 10:19:18 PM

Bottom line for me is that the constitution should protect our rights, not take them away.

Can we go ahead and outlaw divorce now too?

5/8/2012 10:19:20 PM

back to the pile

5/8/2012 10:21:19 PM

Amendment is automatically added.

5/8/2012 10:22:09 PM

lol

y'all actin like a judge won't strike this down and gay marriage won't be like legal in, at most, 5-10 years.



it's inevitable, regardless of the will of the majority.

5/8/2012 10:23:37 PM

Man this is gay! C'mon er'body back to the pile!

5/8/2012 10:23:53 PM

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"Bottom line for me is that the constitution should protect our rights, not take them away."

I agree. who has lost rights today? who is going to be thrown in jail today that wouldn't have been thrown in jail yesterday?

5/8/2012 10:26:28 PM

what rights were protected today?

5/8/2012 10:28:56 PM

Surely burro knows the difference between a right and a law

5/8/2012 10:29:01 PM

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=627185

5/8/2012 10:31:17 PM

Quote :

"what rights were protected today?"

what rights were removed today?

^^ surely you know the difference between a right and gov't benefit, right?

5/8/2012 10:32:11 PM

What about the domestic legal union between 1 man and 1 fish?



[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM. Reason : a motha' fuckin gay fish!]

5/8/2012 10:34:01 PM

Marriage between man and woman is the only Domestic legal union recognized. Therefore the rights of all other legal unions have been stripped

5/8/2012 10:38:47 PM

Quote :

"That's a lie. I've met a lot of educated people that seem to think they know everything and are twenty times more bigoted than the uneducated. Knowledge can close your mind just as not knowing any better can."

Yeah, except you're wrong

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html


[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2012 10:40:11 PM

so where is the best list of ways this is going to fuck unmarried heterosexual couples?

5/8/2012 10:40:17 PM

http://www.law.unc.edu/documents/faculty/marriageamendment/dlureportnov8.pdf#page16

Yeah it's from unc, but I think it's the best paper written on this

5/8/2012 10:41:51 PM

Quote :

"Marriage between man and woman is the only Domestic legal union recognized. Therefore the rights of all other legal unions have been stripped"

Really? So now no man can live with another man that he loves? No man can have sex with another man? Again, gov't recognition is NOT a right. Get that through your skull, dude

5/8/2012 10:44:15 PM

^^^ I happen to agree with you, but understand that IQ and level of education are merely correlated, not the same thing.

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"I guarantee you a LARGE number of the "for" votes came from black Democrats."

Lower socio-economic Democrats, I'd say (of which, statistically, blacks are largely a subset)

5/8/2012 10:44:49 PM

Quote :

"The last time North Carolina amended their constitution on marriage it was to ban interracial marriage."

That was another popular amendment that passed with flying colors in NC. No pun intended.

5/8/2012 10:46:10 PM

Quote :

"Really? So now no man can live with another man that he loves? No man can have sex with another man? Again, gov't recognition is NOT a right. Get that through your skull, dude"

He explicitly says the rights of a legal union, not the rights of an individual. The ability to do anything that have you quoted has nothing to do with legal benefits given through a recognized union.

5/8/2012 10:46:19 PM

So you are saying there are no legal rights when you get married? Damn, so when you get married you stay on your own insurance, you can't get on your spouses. Just one example ass

5/8/2012 10:48:09 PM

benefits. not rights. note the difference. and, much of what you just alluded to are a matter of private contracts. you know, the kinds of things that are NOT restricted by this amendment

Quote :

"The ability to do anything that have you quoted has nothing to do with legal benefits given through a recognized union."

key word being "benefits." I get a driver's license and I now have the benefit of being able to drive on gov't roads. I could always drive before I got the license; just not on gov't funded roads.

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2012 10:50:38 PM

trollin' on the riiiiver

5/8/2012 10:51:35 PM

sorry guiyz i tried

5/8/2012 10:51:45 PM

Rights - benefits, what's the difference?

"In 1997, we issued a report identifying 1,049 federal statutory provisions classified to the United States Code in which benefits, rights, and privileges are contingent on marital status or in which marital status is a factor."

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf

5/8/2012 10:55:49 PM

If this vote was up to my Facebook friends, I think it would have been defeated 400 to 0

5/8/2012 10:57:38 PM

Hey, at least our intolerance got us some pub on the front page of CNN!!!

Quote :

"Tami Fitzgerald, the head of Vote for Marriage NC, said she had been confident that "the people of North Carolina would rise up and vote to keep the opposition from redefining traditional marriage. "We are not anti-gay, we are pro-marriage," she said. "And the point -- the whole point -- is simply that you don't rewrite the nature of God's design for marriage based on the demands of a group of adults.""

I don't understand this quote. Were "the gays" railroading a law through that redefined traditional marriage? Did I completely misunderstand what this amendment was?

5/8/2012 10:57:46 PM

I would like to introduce the nc bill of rights.

#1 the government shall not fuck with anyone's rights to do anything that doesn't physically harm another person or their property.

/ bill of rights take your bigotry elsewhere with your. We have the right to oppress homosexuals bull shit.


Hey next year lets make them count as a fraction of a person when they vote
And after that we can have them wear pretty rainbows on thier clothing
Ooooh ooooh then we can have homosexual retreats at camps you know away from the rest of us.



Jesus this really does embarass me an yes i am refering to this as the "gateway drug" of oppressive behavior.

5/8/2012 10:58:52 PM

Also, love CNN comments

Quote :

"if gays would focus half as much energy on trying to get well and cure themselves of their disease as they do trying to push their agenda down everyone's throat, then this wouldn't be an issue. "

5/8/2012 10:59:15 PM

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"I love how the fact that I disagree with same sex marriage and heterosexual couples living together outside of marriage makes me intolerant. I do not believe that supporting Amendment One is me forcing my beliefs upon others, I simply think that the title of "Married" should only exist between a man and a woman. I believe common law marriage is a farce. If you want the benefits of a married couple, grow a pair, commit to your woman, and marry her. Set an example for the children that you bore outside of marriage and commit to your mate. Show them what true love stands for, and guess what, leaving yourself the ability to leave at any moment without reprisal is not that. This is not a gay issue. This is not an intolerance issue. This is not a civil rights issue. This is a statement of definition of what marriage is and should be. In the philosophical words of Beyonce, "Cause if you like it then you shoulda put a ring on it." Good job North Carolina."

fuck this guy

5/8/2012 11:01:20 PM

Quote :

" the "gateway drug" of oppressive behavior"

that's why I dislike this so much. It's not specifically championing gays so much as opposing opening the door even wider for statist intrusion.

5/8/2012 11:02:48 PM

Quote :

"theDuke866: Lower socio-economic Democrats, I'd say (of which, statistically, blacks are largely a subset)"

Whether it's black Democrats or poor Democrats...why are you guys so eager to pass this off on Democrats???

And I've already mentioned that black people barely vote.

I don't suppose I'm shocking anybody when I say that poor people barely vote either.

You guys seriously think they came out for the primaries?

[Edited on May 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM. Reason : ]

5/8/2012 11:04:12 PM

Quote :

"if gays would focus half as much energy on trying to get well and cure themselves of their disease as they do trying to push their agenda down everyone's throat, then this wouldn't be an issue."

5/8/2012 11:04:52 PM

Quote :

"Really? So now no man can live with another man that he loves? No man can have sex with another man? Again, gov't recognition is NOT a right. Get that through your skull, dude"

Actually, domestic unions are a right. It takes away a LOT of rights. If your partner is in the hospital, you'd no longer have the legal right to make decisions on their behalf. If your partner dies unexpectedly, you are no longer recognized as a family member or spouse in dealing with the Estate.

There's no way to get a single insurance policy of any sort without going to another state to establish a civil union.

Not to mention there's now no way to file taxes jointly, which means fewer deductions and more taxes paid for homosexuals (potentially).

5/8/2012 11:06:29 PM

To be honest the bill doesn't affect me at all, I am married and will stay married to my wife through thick and thin.

It just offends and embarrasses me.

5/8/2012 11:07:08 PM

^That's my response.

For those of you who voted to "protect marriage", screw you. My marriage is fine and doesn't need protecting by you dipshits. No one else's relationship can alter how my marriage functions.

5/8/2012 11:10:09 PM

~61% for it here as it stands right now with 97% reported

5/8/2012 11:13:34 PM

Quote :

"To be honest the bill doesn't affect me at all, I am married and will stay married to my wife through thick and thin. "

While I am in a heterosexual marriage, I am not above considering how this could impact my own life. I believe that this is just one more step that furthers the reach of our government. I believe that in the long run that this amendment could impact industry and jobs in our state. I also believe that the amendment could impact my loved ones who are gay, loved ones who are in non-traditional heterosexual relationships, and most importantly, my children who have yet to define their sexuality.

5/8/2012 11:17:44 PM

Some people from the DNCC are talking about getting the convention pulled from NC and others have already started petitions on Facebook.

5/8/2012 11:18:55 PM

^^ you'll notice above I compared this to regressing back to slave times and nazis.

I completely agree.

5/8/2012 11:23:15 PM

I did. I do read.

5/8/2012 11:25:05 PM

At this point I hope a large corporation points to this as a reason for not doing business here, to prove a point. Then anyone voting for purely religious reasons has to take a step back and think real hard

5/8/2012 11:26:04 PM

Since so many folks' facebook posts are being put here, I'm going to go ahead and copy down mine:

Quote :

"Found this on CNN.com: *Tami Fitzgerald, the head of Vote for Marriage NC, said she had been confident that "the people of North Carolina would rise up and vote to keep the opposition from redefining traditional marriage.* Excuse me, Tami, but YOU were the one trying to redefine what it means to be human. Gay marriage was already not recognized in the state, no one was trying to even touch the definition of marriage. I don't understand how someone else's love was hurting your life so much."

5/8/2012 11:29:05 PM