Poised to set up a term paper mill for all ACC athletes and become an on-staff agent for our football program if punishments are "light."

3/12/2012 11:27:47 AM

Quote :

"If it is really bad news, it will pretty much assure send a message to the NCAA that no program will EVER bend over backwards for them like UNC did."

God bless IC

Quote :

"If we get a bowl ban and more scholarship reductions, it is completely over the top. 1. We have a clean history for the prior 50 years in all sports. 2. One of our "major violations" was for a rule that was not in existence (monitoring social media). 3. Two of "our" major violations were for former employees who did not cooperate. How the heck can we make Blake or Wiley talk? 4. Several of our "major violations" were for things that causes INDIVIDUALS to be ineligible. Is State's basketball program on probation because CJ Leslie took a few improper benefits? 5. We cooperated fully, provided all information requested, did not play ANY ineligible players once we learned of violations, and even sat players who did NOTHING wrong. 6. Our compliance education program was praised by the ncaa. Now, contrast all of that with Ohio State who knowingly played ineligible players, was a repeat offender, had a coach cover up violations, and even had more violations during the investigation. Now, how does Carolina get as severe a penalty?!?!?!? DO.NOT.COOPERATE. is the message the ncaa is sending. That is ludicrous. They should be giving a lighter sentence to encourage cooperation as well as for the prior clean record. Truly, this is akin to a judge giving a 50-year sentence for petty theft to a 40-year-old who had no prior arrests, who admitted to the crime, and who paid restitution. Rant over."

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM. Reason : had to add]

3/12/2012 11:36:22 AM

Lol. In CH it's bend over forwards isn't it

3/12/2012 11:39:24 AM

Plz2kill them NCAA

3/12/2012 11:42:50 AM

so did unc get all weekend to plan out how to spin this?

3/12/2012 11:49:07 AM

from what i've seen on twitter, protocol is generally for the ncaa to inform the school in the morning and then release the info to the public later that day. so, it wouldn't seem like they've had all weekend to spin this.

3/12/2012 11:52:14 AM

i didn't follow this whole saga too closely, why do i keep hearing unc fans talk about how great they cooperated? where are that getting that from?

3/12/2012 12:12:28 PM

it's been Greg Barnes' mantra throughout the whole saga

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 12:14 PM. Reason : ']

3/12/2012 12:13:39 PM

Because they went to the meeting in October and said "hey, I know we screwed up, so I'm going to propose you punish us like this..." and gave what punishment they would be fine with getting.

3/12/2012 12:13:41 PM

^I think it refers more to sitting players out of games before they were officially deemed ineligible.

I don't know how much that will factor in since they were essentially allowed to build a program via cheating for several years. Holding out a few players for a few games doesn't really address that.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 12:18 PM. Reason : -]

3/12/2012 12:16:31 PM

If they dont get the hammer I cant wait to see the protests put up by the likes of USC and OSU. Even if they did cooperate after they got busted, the shit that they pulled over there was blatant obvious cheating both in the football program and academically. They deserve far worse than what those other schools got.

3/12/2012 12:16:35 PM

^^I certainly think that's part of it. But a lot of people are saying "if we get screwed over, we should have just denied the thing, and never gone to the meeting, and never told them they were right."

Nevermind the $27k or the tutor thing to begin with, it's the whole "we're getting punished because we told the truth" mentality.

3/12/2012 12:19:23 PM

just remember to remind any unc fan that talks about cooperation, Butch STILL hasn't turned over his phone records

3/12/2012 12:36:50 PM

i think i recall a unc fan countering with "just not to the media".....

3/12/2012 12:40:32 PM

3/12/2012 12:46:20 PM

David Glenn says there are penalties beyond what UNC self-imposed.

3/12/2012 1:10:18 PM

AHAHAHA, LOL. Just found out that it's "HONOR AND INTEGRITY" week at Carolina. March 12-17. Perfect timing NCAA, perfect timing.

Quote :

"For more than 130 years, Carolina students have pledged not to lie, cheat, or steal. Students enjoy a great deal of freedom at Carolina and have been entrusted to hold each other accountable for maintaining a just and safe community. As such, students hear and decide all alleged cases of conduct and academic integrity violations."

I felt bad about posting the honor system facebook page, but y'all can search for it. I had a momentary sympathetic streak there, as there has likely never been a football player or a basketball player involved in the honor system.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 1:28 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2012 1:19:17 PM

which player was it that used the term "Muhhamadism" in his term paper that was copied from a 1907 book? I thought it was McAdoo, but was that basketball or football

/lazy

3/12/2012 1:26:00 PM

^^That's fantastic. TWW needs to join that page.

3/12/2012 1:27:01 PM

^^ football McAdoo

3/12/2012 1:27:37 PM

This is awesome

3/12/2012 1:32:33 PM

I'm starting to get kinda giddy. Pleeeeease don't disappoint.

3/12/2012 1:36:42 PM

oh shit, is it friday?

3/12/2012 1:41:32 PM

Quote :

"I felt bad about posting the honor system facebook page"

lolwut.


their honor system is a huge joke, much like the rest of their undergraduate education program.

3/12/2012 1:53:30 PM

I know. But those little junior lawyers take it seriously, and for some reason, I feel bad about hurting peoples' feelings today.

3/12/2012 1:54:47 PM

Quote :

"their honor system is a huge joke, much like the rest of their undergraduate education program."

3/12/2012 1:56:31 PM

Quote :

"Truly, this is akin to a judge giving a 50-year sentence for petty theft to a 40-year-old who had no prior arrests, who admitted to the crime, and who paid restitution"

I like how they used "petty theft" in their example to make their case sound more innocent. I also like how he included "restitution" like they were able to completely "return" or negate ALL positives in their favor by benching a couple players for a few games and firing the coach.

A better made-up but still useless metaphorical example is: Someone steals $100,000, and *only after they get caught* admits to the crime and returns $50,000. Apparently Carolina's eyes, this man should now only have to pay a $25,000 fine and serve no jail time because he admitted and cooperated.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 2:00 PM. Reason : ]

3/12/2012 2:00:29 PM

To celebrate I made a victory lap around Kenan for my lunch run today. Now back just in time for the announcement.

3/12/2012 2:03:47 PM

who would be the best person to follow on twitter for updates?

3/12/2012 2:11:16 PM

It will be live streamed on WRAL and 99.9.

3/12/2012 2:11:50 PM

purrrfect

3/12/2012 2:12:45 PM

link?

3/12/2012 2:14:42 PM

http://den-a.plr.liquidcompass.net/player/flash/audio_player.php?id=WCMCFM&uid=24

3/12/2012 2:15:19 PM

all i have to say is Vacating wins is the stupidest penalty ever by the NCAA..seriously stupid.

3/12/2012 2:15:32 PM

I think any of the local sports guys would be good to follow. @armstrongwtvd is usually good for updates. since it's being streamed on wral, @wralsportsfan might be another good one. hell, @insidecarolina would probably be good.

3/12/2012 2:18:05 PM

where's the wral stream? i wanna see the looks on their faces

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM. Reason : or is it gonna be audio only]

3/12/2012 2:21:10 PM

DROP THE HAMMER

3/12/2012 2:23:51 PM

its a conference call so im not sure that they will be doing a video feed.

I hope so.

rumor mill saying its a lot worse than the self-imposed. but thats already been posted I see now.

3/12/2012 2:27:08 PM

It should be a lot more, their self imposed penalties were a joke.

3/12/2012 2:28:32 PM

Not sure if it been posted, but the time line is:

Quote :

"NCAA release at 2:30pm followed by a conference call at 3pm. UNC response at 4:30pm. "

So I expect twitter updates before the conference call.

3/12/2012 2:29:52 PM

2:30

3/12/2012 2:30:20 PM

It's 2:30 and nothing...NCAA loves UNC

3/12/2012 2:33:08 PM

+

3/12/2012 2:34:05 PM

video will be at http://www.wral.com/news/video/10844908/#/vid10844908

3/12/2012 2:34:23 PM

CAN'T RESUME WORK WITHOUT UPDATES

Quote :

"1 yr bowl ban, 15 lost scholarships, 3 yrs probation."

http://ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2012/march/unc+receives+postseason+ban+scholarship+reductions

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 2:36 PM. Reason : link]

3/12/2012 2:35:43 PM

NCAA report on UNC football is online:http://ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/latest+news/2012/march/unc+receives+postseason+ban+scholarship+reductions

Penalties: 1 yr bowl ban, 15 lost scholarships, 3 yrs probation.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 2:37 PM. Reason : 1]

3/12/2012 2:36:20 PM

Only one year postseason ban.

Meh. Wanted much more. Not exactly satisfied, but I guess it's better than nothing.

3/12/2012 2:36:50 PM

i'll take it

3/12/2012 2:39:03 PM

as is typical with the tar holes, they get off easy

3/12/2012 2:40:04 PM

3/12/2012 2:40:20 PM