weak questions for the committee. very weak.

3/12/2012 3:32:47 PM

Not as much as I would have liked but about as much as we could have expected.

The comments on the forums are already getting ridiculous

Quote :

"They did this to appease NCST. The Wuffies got into the dance for the first time in forever yesterday and get to gloat about UNX penalties today. Anti-NCST conspiracy my pale white arse."

3/12/2012 3:40:10 PM

Quote :

""OK, here to take my beating like a real man. Come on you Red and Blue Ragers have at it. I know you want a peice of Smitty. Watch out, I do bite back. Well, I was expecting the 3 year probation, 3-4 schollys per year. 15 schollys, a little harsh as it hurts the 2* players, not the 3 and 4 star players. Heels will find a way around that one AKA "disadvantaged culture hardship" schollys or something like that. So we end up with a few more "walk ons". The bowl ban? I'm like Jbrd on that one. I predicted none so got that one wrong too. Did not see the value as recruits do not go to a college because they can play in a bowl game unless it's BCS, they go where they will improve and will enjoy their college experience. Since all the recruits are signed we are set so the 2012 ban does not hurt our recruiting. If this had come out before signing day then it might have. We will be back in the bowl picture for 2013 and depending on how Fedora does 1st season, that will be the key to getting great recruits 2013 and on. OK I'm done. Feeling pretty good it's over and take the smackdown and get back up more determined than ever. Great coach, great AD, NC in Basketball this year, Foxy will probably have us back at the CWS, we will win the Capital One Cup, and also the other award which name escapes me. Whoot!!! Go Tar Heels!!! #Heelblood!!! #Ramsblood!!! Eat NCAA sanctions for breakfast, pass them out the back just before bed. Oh, BTW, you Wolfpups make sure the name on that check from your bowl appearance this year is spelled TAR HEELS. Yeeeeeeeehhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!""

dude is already proclaiming a Championship in BBall...please...what a moron.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM. Reason : h]

3/12/2012 3:47:09 PM

^, ^^

Carolina fans make up the largest contingent of assholes on the planet. Douchebaggery is as defining a trait for them as promiscuity for a prostitute. The social media wasteland doubles as a microcosm of their real-world behavior and as a sponge, absorbing their witless, inane circle-jerking and oozing it out to the rest of the world. Like seriously: you can't go two feet on the internet without observing UNC fans furiously sucking themselves and each other off, assaulting the mind, body, and spirit of the rest of the human race with their feeble "command" of the English language. They're an entire colony of grab-ass retards patting themselves on the back and taking potshots from the highest of high horses.

"Oh derp 19 out of 20 nuff sed!!!" - HEELZFAN4LYFE
"State fans ned to quit whinning about calls and go back to tracktor racin HA" - BABYBLEW_ALLDAWAY

Go shotgun a bottle of bleach, you unemployable fucksticks.

3/12/2012 3:49:28 PM

lol k

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 3:52 PM. Reason : :0 ]

3/12/2012 3:50:44 PM

Quote :

"Eat NCAA sanctions for breakfast, pass them out the back just before bed"

well, at least they're regular

3/12/2012 3:52:01 PM

Quote :

"The NCAA said that the committee was never presented with a charge of "Lack of Institutional Control", but an allegation of "Failure to Monitor" was presented. Either charge would have likely added to the punishment handed forth by the NCAA."

Quote :

""“It’s been almost two years since this investigation began, so getting the NCAA ruling is a big step in moving forward," said Chancellor Holden Thorp in a statement Monday. "We approached this investigation the way that you would expect of Carolina – thoughtfully, thoroughly and with full cooperation – and that was the right thing to do.""

3/12/2012 3:52:17 PM

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"As required by NCAA legislation for any institution involved in a major infractions case, the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill shall be subject to the provisions of NCAA Bylaw 19.5.2.3, concerning repeat violators, for a five-year period beginning on the effective date of the penalties in this case, March 12, 2012."

dare they take any risks within 5 years?

3/12/2012 3:53:26 PM

THOUGHTFUL INVESTIGATING

3/12/2012 3:53:54 PM

Quote :

"UNC gets caught cheating but doesn't finish above 500 and loses to State 5 straight times in the process. LOL"

Quote :

"Damn UNC got fucked by the NCAA"

What is this guy smoking?

3/12/2012 3:58:33 PM

^ probably a cock.

3/12/2012 4:05:53 PM

$50,000 fine is a joke too. The athletes were paid much more than this...

3/12/2012 4:06:30 PM

Wow this might be the WORST conference call I have EVER heard in my life.

3/12/2012 4:40:13 PM

Ahhh carolina fans just trying to claim how many worse violations State has committed and how classy their program and school is.

3/12/2012 4:44:14 PM

haha, they bumped gott's call in for this LOLfest?

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 4:52 PM. Reason : fat finger]

3/12/2012 4:47:36 PM

i think it's horseshit that unc still gets bowl money this year.

3/12/2012 4:48:47 PM

Quote :

"Wow this might be the WORST conference call I have EVER heard in my life."

I had to turn it off, all the feedback and static was killing me

3/12/2012 4:49:13 PM

I think it's fucking hilarious. We've got hotel reservations, dial tones, feedback, etc...

3/12/2012 4:54:43 PM

From what I've been told, the 15 scholarships over 5 years won't be shit. According to my friend, those 5 scholarships/year can be pulled from anywhere. So they can recruit their full 25 person class and drop 5 older/existing players who aren't doing shit, as long as their roster <=80.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 4:57 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2012 4:57:29 PM

It still hurts their depth.

And we, of all fanbases, ought to appreciate the value of depth.

3/12/2012 5:04:06 PM

Quote :

"From what I've been told, the 15 scholarships over 5 years won't be shit. According to my friend, those 5 scholarships/year can be pulled from anywhere. So they can recruit their full 25 person class and drop 5 older/existing players who aren't doing shit, as long as their roster <=80."

Nope...they have to sign a full class, then drop the 5 highest rated recruits each year for three years...

Seriously...what the fuck kind of restrictions do you think they could put on that??

3/12/2012 5:10:30 PM

Does the loss of scholarships have to be 5 each year? Let's say they are 6 under the limit next year. Does that leave 9 for the last 2?

3/12/2012 5:11:03 PM

^^uh, drop new scholarships by 5/year, dumbass. that is reasonable and very doable.
^^^sure, but not by much if they have 5 players on scholarship that turned out to be scrubs.

3/12/2012 5:17:47 PM

15 scholly is a huge hit. Who the fuck cares about post-season bans? That doesn't mean shit, the scholarship reduction is the real killer, ask Alabama in the 90s.

Of course they will appeal and get that reduced, but even if its 12 scholarships and probation, that's a helluva punishment IMO

in response to the scholarship reduction, it is from their recruiting class, not from players currently on the team, i.e. they should be only able to sign 20 per year, rather than 25. And that is a huge fucking hit.

[Edited on March 12, 2012 at 5:20 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/12/2012 5:18:49 PM

slap on the wrist

3/12/2012 5:21:32 PM

^^ok, is that how it works. there was a discussion at work and a few thought it was from anywhere on the team.

3/12/2012 5:22:58 PM

Quote :

"uh, drop new scholarships by 5/year, dumbass. that is reasonable and very doable."

It's called a "limit." You can do whatever you want as long as you don't go over the limit. It's not rocket science.

And it will effect them. It won't cripple them, but look at our problems with depth this year. If you would have added 5 reduced scholarships to our injuries, we would have been playing the water boy at defensive tackle.

It also effects your recruiting. You can't give as many offers and have to be pickier and not go on potential as much. You might put all your eggs in one basket because you know you can't fuck around...and if that guy doesn't come, you're SOL and thin at that position.

I would have liked 18-20 schollies...but 15 will put a dent in their team.

3/12/2012 5:24:19 PM

Water boy plays linebacker, towel boy plays wide receiver.

3/12/2012 5:26:55 PM

15 scholarships over five years means instead of 25/year and 85 total, they are subject to 20/year and 80 total for three years.

They can't sign 25 and cut 5 cruddy seniors.

3/12/2012 5:33:14 PM

I think they should put limits on recruiting trips, OVs, etc as well as a scholarship ban anytime a team gets in trouble recruiting. Not only will that hurt the number of players signed, but also the quality.

3/12/2012 5:33:45 PM

Any bets on swofford (may he die and rot in hell) asking for more penalties like he did when clemson got in trouble?

3/12/2012 6:46:15 PM

unc already said they won't appeal

3/12/2012 6:51:05 PM

^^

Either us or the Clemson AD need to do that!

3/12/2012 7:02:46 PM

Quote :

"I know you want a peice of Smitty. Watch out, I do bite back."

3/12/2012 7:04:53 PM

Quote :

"uh, drop new scholarships by 5/year, dumbass. that is reasonable and very doable."

Scholarships are renewed on a yearly basis, they aren't multi-year contracts. There is no way for the NCAA to enforce what you're crying for.

3/12/2012 7:05:06 PM

Those poor innocent players that were dumb enough to join a team that was under investigation.

3/12/2012 7:17:32 PM

Quote :

"Ahhh carolina fans just trying to claim how many worse violations State has committed and how classy their program and school is. "

lol. We all know that if this were State that the North Carolina Attorney General and the University of North Carolina Board of Governors would deem the penalties not harsh enough and they would further impose all kinds of penalties.

3/12/2012 8:56:15 PM

If it were State they'd find a way to charge everyone at the school with some sort of felony with prison time

3/12/2012 9:09:48 PM

Bowl ban should have been longer.

Sorry Shreveport/Charlotte, unc won't be available to come finish runner up this year

3/12/2012 9:23:01 PM

Quote :

"Scholarships are renewed on a yearly basis, they aren't multi-year contracts. There is no way for the NCAA to enforce what you're crying for."

didn't they just vote to change that? or am i thinking of something else?

3/13/2012 3:00:32 PM

I thought it was slightly weak as well. While I had hoped for the death penalty, I knew that it would probably be a slap on the wrist. The one year bowl ban was good, but I was hoping for a 2-3 year bowl ban. Might have been a bit optimistic though.

3/13/2012 4:42:08 PM

Boss today was talking about how harsh it was. And if "Jimmy V had done what he did today, he wouldn't have been allowed to be Athletic Director".

I had to correct him on a few finer points, and he still bought my lunch. Score.

3/13/2012 4:42:56 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/03/13/1932081/former-unc-ch-tutor-had-horrible.html

Damn. That tutor must be pretty well connected if Joe Cheshire is representing her free of charge.

Also, my former law professor (Broome) is quoted. She's a kick-ass professor, and represents UNC on quite a few NCAA boards.

3/14/2012 10:32:24 PM

^^ well. He wasnt allowed to be an AD, after.

3/14/2012 10:35:02 PM

Exactly.

3/14/2012 10:44:56 PM

"free of charge"

wonder who really wrote the check

3/14/2012 11:08:13 PM

How can you feel bad for the tutor?

Boo hoo, people on internet message boards are talking shit about you. Maybe if you got some balls and at a minimum made a statement to the media during all the allegations then people wouldn't assume you were 110% guilty. I don't feel bad for her one bit.

3/15/2012 10:23:47 AM

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"Wiley, who declined to speak with NCAA investigators and to talk with UNC-CH administrators, assisted several players with their school work, Cheshire said, in ways that placed her “sometimes out of bounds without even knowing she was, but yes, occasionally just out of bounds.”"

REALLY? she wrote whole fucking paragraphs! She was a tutor yet didn't know that wasn't allowed? Did she attend Nyang'oro's tutoring class or something? jesus

and then she paid almost 2000 for a player's parking tickets, and she didn't know that wasn't allowed? if she didn't know that, then they need to investigate the FUCK out of the athlete tutoring program at UNC, because what the fuck else do the tutors "not know is wrong"?

[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2012 4:23:32 PM

I like how her lawyer tries to make it seem like she was the victim and didn't do anything that bad...but there was not any explanation from the lawyer for this part:

Quote :

"She also paid a $150 airline ticket change fee so a player could return from spring break early. She also made a one-time payment of $1,789 to settle a player’s overdue campus parking tickets. It was unclear whether she was reimbursed."

no quote from the lawyer or anything. i'd like to hear him (or wiley) try to explain away that part.

[Edited on March 15, 2012 at 4:53 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2012 4:52:30 PM

I'm hopin this shit is gonna end up like the McAdoo case and we get MORE information released which causes the NCAA to have to take another look. really, as undergrad/new teacher, she paid 2000 to pay off a player's tickets? where the fuck did she get that money, cause she sure as fuck shouldn't have that kind of disposable income as an undergrad, much less as a new teacher

3/15/2012 6:03:29 PM