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" A summer class at UNC-Chapel Hill that lacked any instruction was enrolled exclusively with football players – and it landed on the school calendar just days before the semester started, university records show. The records show that in the summer of 2011, 19 students enrolled in AFAM 280: Blacks in North Carolina, 18 of them players on the football team, the other a former player. They also show that academic advisers assigned to athletes helped the players enroll in the class, which is the subject of a criminal investigation. The advisers also knew that there would be no instruction. "

So much for the idea that athletes were treated no differently than regular students.

I love how despite the "thorough internal investigation" being released, it took a FoIA request by the N&O to discover that the shammiest of the sham classes were packed with athletes, and steered into those classes by the athletes' academic advisors. It should be obvious to everyone by now that a cover-up is going on, and Thorp and the administration are in full damage-control mode. They released that report as a way to deflect criticism when the truth came out, spinning it all as the work of a "rogue professor" and not an athletic scandal.

[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 11:02 PM. Reason : 2]

6/8/2012 10:58:27 PM

this thread and the unc scandal:

6/8/2012 11:53:17 PM

nothing to see here.

6/9/2012 12:15:18 AM

So does this reopen the NCAA investigation and cause further punishment?

Does this cause the BOG to finally decide to take notice?

Does the trail lead all the way back to the Dean Dome?

It has been brought up on here before. There is NO WAY that the football players are taking these no show classes and the basketball players aren't invited to the party.

I'm really just happy that the N&O is pressing hard on this. The funny thing is, you are dealing with the Alma Mater of numerous employees at the N&O with this matter. Has to be mixed feelings about bringing down your school.

6/9/2012 12:51:09 AM

I'll give it to the Daily Tarheel (and by extension the N&O), they report news. They don't tend to care about protecting their school, they have on multiple occasions gone straight for the truth.

6/9/2012 2:05:29 AM

Odd, I've thought the DTH (and by extension the N&O) seems like the only ones concerned with protecting the integrity of UNC. Everyone else seems determined to try and cover up the academic fraud issues.

6/9/2012 7:37:04 AM

^^^ Basketball has clearly already been implicated and given the level of this scandal I cannot see any way that the NCAA can simply look the other way. BOG will not take action because the BOG is part of the problem. I want to know if this will finally bring the local pressure to make Bitch release his phone records.

Quote :

"Other records show that football and basketball players made up a majority of the enrollments of nine particularly suspect classes in which the professors listed as instructors have denied involvement, and have claimed that signatures were forged on records related to them. "

6/9/2012 8:14:48 AM

followup to sham summer class article

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/06/10/3307752/unc-ch-board-chair-football-class.html

tl;dr UNC board of trustees finds this class "troubling" and Thorp says UNC will take back the $12,000 paid to N'oshow for "teaching" this independent study class

6/11/2012 5:05:25 PM

Quote :

"So much for the idea that athletes were treated no differently than regular students."

Well we all know that's not true already.

Reading the article, don't these departments ever have audits or accreditation reviews?

[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2012 6:02:26 PM

Quote :

"I want to know if this will finally bring the local pressure to make Bitch release his phone records. "

What's it matter? He can tell everyone "f*ck you, I don't have to release sh*t."

6/11/2012 6:07:01 PM

i feel good about another unc internal investigation.

and im also sure that n'osho will have his $12k given back to him to keep him quiet

6/11/2012 6:51:21 PM

Quote :

"What's it matter? He can tell everyone "f*ck you, I don't have to release sh*t.""

Contempt of court becomes a huge issue then (correct me if I am wrong but jail time is a real possibility). What does it matter? I have every belief that there is much more shady shit to be revealed by those records. Why else would everyone be fighting so hard to not release them?

6/11/2012 7:50:46 PM

^

Flyin Ryan refuses to write out curse words on message boards

6/11/2012 11:43:37 PM

what are we, 12?

6/12/2012 8:49:55 AM

More worthwhile articles:

http://themountaineer.villagesoup.com/column/columnpost/universitys-response-neither-thorough-nor-diligent/837491?cid=1567410#.T9c1Suq6jL0.facebook

6/12/2012 8:56:14 AM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2515&t=9064227

So who copied who??? Lol

6/12/2012 10:11:35 AM

Quote :

"Nyang’oro took steps to add the course, AFAM 280: Blacks in North Carolina, to the summer schedule."

6/12/2012 10:23:32 AM

^ LOL

This whole investigation is just officer barbrady now...

6/12/2012 11:22:07 AM

might have been posted but here is a pdf from the N&O on the courses
http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2012/06/08/22/51/1d2hRv.So.156.pdf

6/12/2012 11:33:33 AM

^how does that not prove preferential treatment?

54 irregular and/or fake classes. Most students are athletes, by a good margin. Athletes were steered into these courses...

6/12/2012 11:37:27 AM

^Yeah there are a couple courses where there are only 1 or 2 students for the course. Maybe those are "independent study", but that concept is kinda bullshit even without bringing athletics into the mix.

6/12/2012 11:39:41 AM

Nothing will come of it. They'll just be allowed to internally sweep it under a rug again and even get help from the top down to do so.

6/12/2012 12:53:58 PM

They weren't officially on probation until March of this year I believe, when the NCAA finally made their official ruling

But the fact that this latest bogus summer class with the 100% football player enrollment, changed grades, forged signatures, etc happened in Summer 2011 could be really damning.

The NCAA started investigating their program in Summer of 2010. They're under investigation for a year and they're still cheating? Basically a big "Fuck You, NCAA"

6/12/2012 1:01:31 PM

that PDF shows that out of the 681 students enrolled in the shady classes, 398 of them were student athletes...58.4%

if that were representative of the student body as a whole, there would be 10,858 student athletes at UNC

6/12/2012 3:13:14 PM

^ There was speculation that UNC left baseball players out that number as well

6/12/2012 3:16:26 PM

How did he take steps to add the course? I thought he's been out of the country and unable to comment since the whole thing began...

6/12/2012 4:14:53 PM

He wasn't involved until the paper came to light.

6/12/2012 4:29:12 PM

the scholarly Michael McAdoo was cut by the Rams today

6/12/2012 5:17:51 PM

Ravens actually. He tore his achilles and was taken to Ball So Hard University Medical Center for treatment, a series of events that he copied directly from Terrell Suggs.

6/12/2012 5:41:39 PM

Quote :

"the scholarly Michael McAdoo was cut by the Rams today"

i like the way you worded that and i am going to use it in a tweet to poke some folks lol

6/12/2012 8:17:39 PM

Sounds like he should have spent more time hitting the books

6/13/2012 1:55:33 AM

^^^i knew he played for the Ravens, but i typed Rams like a buffoon

6/13/2012 2:02:12 PM

Quote :

"Another surprise came at the meeting, when Ross confirmed that Deborah Crowder, the administrative assistant at the center of the case, has been in a long-standing relationship with a former UNC basketball player, Warren Martin. Crowder, who retired in 2009, has declined to talk to university officials about the suspect classes. Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/14/2137034/former-unc-employee-linked-to.html#storylink=cpy#storylink=cpy"

6/15/2012 12:05:05 AM

awww yeah.

let's spread this shit out, finally!

6/15/2012 12:38:26 AM

Quote :

"The Board of Governors placed the academic fraud case on its governance committee’s agenda this week after rival N.C. State fans and officials raised the issue of disparate treatment. They pointed out that 23 years ago, the board launched an investigation into improprieties within the Wolfpack basketball program and the subsequent findings helped lead to the exits of coach Jim Valvano and Chancellor Bruce Poulton."

We would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those pesky NC State fans.

6/15/2012 8:10:36 AM

NCSU
* NCAA investigates, no major violations were found
* Shoes, tickets sold
* Students performed very poorly academically

UNC:
* NCAA investigates, 9 (is that right?) major violations found
* To save time, everything else

So people really got bent out of shape in our case because we had a bunch of student athletes with bad grades... and UNC gives a goodly percentage of athletes in revenue sports As for no-show classes and they are allowed to self discipline within the same corrupt system. But at least their grades weren't C averages.

Someone have the details on what exactly the BoG did in our case? UNC's case? Referring to extra penalties imposed above and beyond self imposed punishments and punishments doled out by the NCAA... because on the surface what UNC did feels orders of magnitude worse. Devil's advocate: maybe UNC's punishment was orders of magnitude worse, the difference being we never recovered whereas UNC will likely recover the instant they get their scholarships back, if they experience a dip at all, meaning 5 scholarships yanked from a football team means practically nothing when compared to yanking 5 scholarships from a basketball team.

[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM. Reason : -]

6/15/2012 8:29:34 AM

Yes, internal investigations are trustworthy

I laugh every time an organization does this. THIS COP WROTE ME A SPEEDING TICKET, BUT MY MOM INVESTIGATED IT AND DETERMINED ME TO BE NOT GUILTY, KTHXBYE

6/15/2012 8:41:00 AM

i think it's been posted a few times before, but tyler hansborough's reading of chicken little is pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JieHmC9DH8

6/15/2012 8:53:34 AM

LOLOLOL

Quote :

"A CORN FELL"

6/15/2012 9:01:10 AM

yes, i called that number when it was new and heard it. great shit.

THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!

6/15/2012 10:59:30 AM

Quote :

"But a scandal was brewing in the years leading up to her retirement, with dozens of courses popping up that had little or no instruction. Student athletes, especially football players, were taking up the majority of those seats. Men’s basketball players were a small but significant minority – in at least two suspect classes a basketball player was the sole student enrolled."

Quote :

"One message Crowder wrote on her Facebook page also suggests she has had a close-up view of men’s basketball games. On Feb. 6, she comments on a Daily Tar Heel feature about a longtime security official whose job has been to keep unauthorized people from entering the tunnel that leads to the team lockers. Crowder wrote: “We saw him all of the years when we used to come in through the tunnel. He is a very nice man and I miss seeing him.”"

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/15/2139061/former-unc-aide-was-close-to-athletics.html

6/15/2012 1:07:38 PM

6/15/2012 1:10:59 PM

Quote :

"A University issue, definitely not a basketball issue"

-Roy Williams

6/15/2012 2:26:32 PM

Quote :

"the real story isn't that roy said "it's not a basketball issue", it's that he said it with a straight face. the guy's a pro."

-- Coach L Folwer (@Lee_Folwer)

6/15/2012 3:27:24 PM

picked up some GSL and EDC

6/15/2012 3:34:27 PM

I'm shorting my UNC and picked up some NCSU. Need to put some trailing stops on there and I'm hoping to make a few quick bucks soon.

6/15/2012 3:39:36 PM

Dan Kane wrote an article about the AfAm class taught by agent Carl Carey.

Here is the website Carey created as a rebuttal:

http://www.dirtydankane.com/

6/15/2012 7:45:17 PM

^lol yeah lets piss off somebody whose job it is to basically dig up dirt on other people while you and you're associates are fighting off a scandal

6/15/2012 8:35:46 PM

BobbyDigital, in case you're wondering, corruptcarlcarey.com is available

6/15/2012 8:53:02 PM

Quote :

" “In our review, the evidence did not show favoritism to student-athletes in the courses...They were treated the same as other students in the courses.” Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/15/2139061/former-unc-aide-was-close-to-athletics.html#storylink=cpy"

What "other students"?

6/15/2012 9:37:06 PM