lol, someone finally told him it was obstruction

8/30/2018 4:04:27 PM

my racist uncle, an open trump supporter, is starting to post shit about trump acting like a dictator

8/30/2018 8:51:44 PM

^ does he mean that in a good way or a bad way...

8/30/2018 10:01:45 PM

in a bad way

for some reason he got spooked by the google thing

8/31/2018 12:10:13 AM

Interesting, thought the McCain thing would have been what did it

https://twitter.com/abcpolitics/status/1035483253690523648?s=21

I think our anecdotes are valid, looks like 53% strongly disapprove and 60% disapprove over all

Gonna be interesting to see how the final meltdown plays...

8/31/2018 9:26:40 AM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/04/politics/bob-woodward-book-donald-trump-fear/index.html

9/4/2018 12:16:53 PM

Those stories are wildly unsurprising, but still banannas.

9/4/2018 12:19:24 PM

So pretty much everybody is in agreement they don't like Trump, but who did you people vote for, or did you all just not vote?

9/4/2018 5:07:34 PM

People here voted for trump, they're just too cowardly to keep posting

9/4/2018 5:09:27 PM

^I mean the people that didn't. I'll start. I voted for Gary Johnson, but sure as hell wouldn't want Gary Johnson as president. I just think it's important to vote. If I had to do it again I wouldn't vote at all, and moving forward consider that an option.

9/4/2018 5:18:46 PM

Right...I mean...Gary Johnson, while I think would be a good governor or even Senator, would be a flawed President...but I would have taken him over either Clinton or Trump. Almost anyone would be better than Trump.

I disagree that it's always incumbent upon people to vote, though. Sometimes there's just nobody who's worth a shit, and you're fucked regardless. Also, most people who vote don't know shit about shit and ought to stay home.

9/4/2018 6:13:58 PM

Wasted votes

9/4/2018 6:25:39 PM

vote of principle

9/5/2018 5:44:41 PM

i don’t like the two party system so i participate in it in a way that makes our country worse

9/5/2018 6:37:20 PM

I voted for Hillary because I'm not a fucking idiot who wastes his vote and contributes to the victory of a mentally challenged narcissist.

9/5/2018 9:16:53 PM

ooh so principled

9/5/2018 9:51:36 PM

Voting isn’t a principle

It’s a strategic/tactical act

If you want 3rd parties support them in the primaries

9/5/2018 11:19:35 PM

I heard moron didn't, but considered, voting for Trump

9/6/2018 12:51:57 AM

Quote :

"Voting isn’t a principle It’s a strategic/tactical act"

Voting third party is a strategy. It's a "neither" vote with a record.

9/6/2018 12:34:00 PM

strategic wasted vote

9/6/2018 1:17:01 PM

They were all wasted

9/6/2018 4:23:02 PM

^Sounds like a good time

9/6/2018 4:29:21 PM

[OLD], but for posterity, since he says or types something crazy almost everyday

9/7/2018 10:03:03 AM

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1037883056252694528?s=21

This doesn’t sound good...

9/7/2018 10:08:44 AM

better version of ^
https://twitter.com/LeviGibian/status/1037886447037112321

9/7/2018 10:31:28 AM

^^

Nobody knows who the hell he is... or she... although they put "he" but probably that's a little disguise, that means it's she... unless they knew I'd think it was a she because they said he, in which case it was he... but they know I'm a stable genius, so they knew that I would know that because they said he that people would say it's a she and that I wouldn't fall for it, so it clearly can't be a she.

Dude is paranoid. Whatever wheels that guy had have clearly come off.

9/7/2018 2:19:34 PM

never a good sign when you can't even narrow down which of your employees may have written an op-ed about how much of a moron you are

9/7/2018 2:22:13 PM

maybe this is more of a soap box thing. but am in the minority for thinking that the op-ed is kinda bullshit and not that important? i get the outrage about it, i really do.

but...there have been stories and leaks from the WH since day 1 that Trump was an idiot and that the staff had to go out of their way to make sure he didn't do and say even more stupid shit than he already has. we know that the WH is in near constant damage control mode over stuff he's done. it's no secret that they've been treating him like a child and dumbing everything down for him this whole time, right? it doesn't seem like a big reach to assume they are also heavily influencing (or outright controlling) his agenda and what he pursues and doesn't pursue. obviously they can't control his tweeting and his general public outbursts of idiocy.

to me...and i'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist or anything...but this seems more like a wink and nudge message to more moderate conservatives in the lead up to the midterms than a "we're risking everything to do what's right for the country" type message. i see this as an attempt to either win over some of the non-Trump conservatives and/or get them a little more excited prior to mid-terms. the conservatives who want a border wall and love the tax cuts, for example, but dislike Trump's personality and style can now say "hey look, there is an adult in charge after all...we've got him in check, everything's like we want it!"

9/7/2018 4:24:46 PM

My next-door neighbor shared this on Facebook:

9/22/2018 12:16:41 PM

Is he serious?

9/22/2018 4:44:21 PM

If there’s anything I learned from the Republicans the past week, it’s that I could have been doing a LOT of sexual assaulting in high school and it wouldn’t matter as long as I got away with it.

[Edited on September 22, 2018 at 9:32 PM. Reason : ]

9/22/2018 9:31:58 PM

^^^Can we find the original guy? Me and the world's women just wanna do a quick face check, and then we're all gonna marry him. We're gonna marry him so hard.


^Some of these Republican women are extra crazy.

"Find me a teenage boy who didn't do stuff like that in high school. Seriously. Try and find him. Cause I'd like to meet him!"

I get that they're pro-life, and they need Kavanaugh. But they should be able to continue supporting him without dogging out all teenage boys as sexual assault robots.

9/23/2018 5:45:41 PM

Is there any proof that he actually did anything? Last I saw it was just “he said she said”

9/23/2018 6:48:28 PM

There's nothing that would meet a legal standard, if that's what you're asking.

9/23/2018 7:11:56 PM

^^We don't know. But these conservatives are acting like it happened and that it's normal behavior for teenage boys.

Regardless of whether or not it's true, I think the random stuff in the yearbook should be enough to disqualify him. There's also some email he sent to his buddies reminding them to be very vigilant about confidentiality, especially with their spouses, after their annual boys' weekend or whatever.

I suspect that many of us like to party and do outrageous stuff, but we're not trying to be on the Supreme Court.

And I don't think I can bear to watch a drunk rich kid waltz off his sailboat and on to the Supreme Court just so he can overturn Roe v. Wade.

And I really wish women weren't so ashamed of their abortions...and every one of these lawmakers' mistresses could show up at a hearing somewhere and testify about the abortions these dudes have totally paid for.

9/23/2018 7:33:30 PM

2 things I’m wondering...

How are teenagers these days watching all this go down? GOP is sending a strong message if you try to rape a girl in high school and get away with it, there’s nothing wrong about that

Also, how are other countries parsing this? We like to mock other countries as being backward and degenerate when it comes to treatment of women and children, and here we have top leaders of American gov saying attempted rape is no big deal

9/23/2018 8:13:54 PM

I think teenagers have been losing faith in adults since Vietnam, and it's pretty much all gone now. We've been acting like jackasses, and they've watched all of it on the Internet. Basically, Santa Claus is dead.

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/09/what-teens-think-of-brett-kavanaugh-high-school-sexual-assault-accusations/570994/

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/brett-kavanaugh-high-school.html

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/21/650039170/how-to-talk-to-young-people-about-the-kavanaugh-story

9/23/2018 8:47:04 PM

Quote :

"We don't know. But these conservatives are acting like it happened and that it's normal behavior for teenage boys."

Exactly. The jury is out on Kavenaugh, I suppose, but there are a lot of people defending him in indefensible ways, and the worst is that it's from the "family values" crowd. You've gotta be fucking kidding me. I've literally seen them saying "well, you know, the accuser did a lot of drinking and partying in those days." What the fuck, maybe people said that decades ago, but since sometime before the dawn of this millennium, stuff like that is supposed to be primarily bullshit tropes, exhaustingly trotted out by man-hating feminists and self-loathing pencil-necked leftist men. But no, these motherfuckers are saying it, and meaning it!

I'm far from a choir boy. I''m sure that I've probably done things that wouldn't look good if aired in public, especially if deliberately framed in a way to serve as character assassination...but holy shit, I've never done anything even remotely close to what either of these accusations are, nor have I ever seen anything like that happen, and off the top of my head, have never personally known it to happen (to my knowledge). This, despite being around for more than my fair share of pretty wild parties in college, both in a fraternity house and otherwise, and then ongoing somewhat in flight school. I mean, yeah that's all anecdotal, but I've spent a whoooooole bunch of time collecting a whole lot of anecdotes about people drinking, partying hard, and trying to get laid. I've seen plenty of things that won't make the NOW highlight reel for women's empowerment, but I have never known of a dude to hold a girl down, try to pull her clothes off, and clamp a hand over her mouth to keep her quiet...or even to poke a drunk girl in the face with his dick or whatever the other accusation is.

These holier-than-thou squares need to shut up and praise Jesus, and stop talking about things they don't know anything about--like having a good time without hurting anyone.

[Edited on September 24, 2018 at 2:13 AM. Reason : ]

9/24/2018 2:12:36 AM

I don't understand how you're confused about conservatives defending Kavanaugh. This is the same group of people that voted ol' 'Locker Room Talk' into the presidency.

9/24/2018 8:04:48 AM

Quote :

"and the worst is that it's from the "family values" crowd. "

I know you used quotation marks but it seems like you still don't get that all the major qualifiers of the republican policy are/were just a ruse. "family values". "small government" "low deficit" etc etc

9/24/2018 9:48:33 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/copaken-kavanaugh/571042/

Woman writes about being raped and then confronting the rapist 30 years later

9/24/2018 12:50:14 PM

I'm going to share a story. When I was 16 or so, I was at a large party drinking heavily. That night I was later on a bed top of a girl kissing her and fondling her, but she did not want it. My friends came in the room, got me and were very what the fuck. This is obviously not a good story and if I were running for any office, this would be a very bad story. That said, there is some context to this story that doesn't make it better, but I do feel important to share.

I have no recollection of how I got in the room with her and how things started heading where they were headed. My memory only phases back in about 20 to 30 seconds before my friends came in. From all I ever uncovered, it sounds like we started making out and I was making moves towards sex, which she wasn't interested in. I was so wasted that several times that evening people had to tell me who it was I had just been on top of. I'd like to think the best of myself here, that I wouldn't have pushed any further or that shortly after I came out of blackout that I would have stopped myself. But I'll never know, and that story will always be the time a girl told me no and instead of get up I kept fondling her.

One other piece of context, before I get to my point in sharing all of this, is that she and I never spoke of it. She never reported me in any way, and in fact we hung out together many times after that for years, including by ourselves drinking and smoking pot.

The Kavanaugh situation resonates with me because his situation could easily be mine. While I didn't forcibly remove any clothing, muffle screams, nor have a buddy watch me, it's not a positive story and I doubt any of the women here are looking forward to a happy hour with me any time soon. When the story is recounted, the term rapist probably crossed many minds. However, I don't consider myself rapey, haven't been in any other situation such as that, and consider myself a pretty strong supporter of women and women's equality. If asked if I were a good man, who is considerate of women and understands no means no, I would answer yes. I believe many who have known me for years (men and women) would say the same, even most who were there that night. From that perspective, I can understand that Kavanaugh may believe he is a good mean, who respects and supports women. I think several people get that and that is why men, women, republicans, democrats, etc don’t consider this as an issue that disqualifies Kavanaugh for SCOTUS, no matter how rapey, the events that took place 30+ years ago. A single incident for decades ago does not necessarily define a person, especially as they are today.

With that said, there are several things that are absolutely not okay. If Kavanaugh does recall the event in question, denying it and trivializing it would bring his character into question. He may not recall those events, because I wouldn’t have had my friends pulled me off 30 seconds earlier. But if he does, he needs to address it because owning up to it as an event that he is not proud of would show it was a one off. Otherwise, it sounds like a greater trend that he’s trying to hide. I don’t think it is reasonable to expect associates of his to uncover the truth because some from the party may not even be aware- just as some of those from trhe party I attended- and most of those close enough to know would be willing to lie. Shit, I wouldn’t have to pressure anyone to deny those events if I were under scrutiny. I’m confident my friends from then would deny it on their own accord; not part of some big bros before hos mentality but because they’d recognize the events as a mistake and wouldn’t want to see an individual they see as a genuine, fair, and good human to be punished for a decades old mistake. It’s on the perpetrator to own up if it is truly something that was not standard behavior.

What is also not okay is people criticizing the woman for not speaking up earlier. Just because the girl in my story never complained to anyone, never mentioned it to me, continued to hang out with me, and be friends with me for several years ago does not mean her perspective of the evening isn’t as one where she was almost raped.

The other thing for me that is not okay to white wash the behavior as just what young boys do. Saying this sends the wrong message and definitely doesn’t progress toward making a safer world for women.

In general, I don’t want Kavanaugh to be SCOTUS but the accusers account is not enough to exclude him from office. Kavanaugh should be judged on his overall merits. I don’t view it as a definitive indicator of his character. I do think that we shouldn’t vilify someone who shows the strength to speak up and we shouldn’t dismiss the conversation with a boys will be boys mindset. We absolutely should make sure, to the best of our ability, that he doesn’t have a history of this behavior or worse. If we don’t do this, then that is an upsetting indicator of our character as individuals and a society. If he has a history, we hold him accountable. If he doesn’t have a history, then we let the process unfold as intended. If we fail to do that, we that is also an upsetting indicator of where we stand as individuals and as a society.

9/24/2018 3:31:09 PM

Man reading those first few paragraphs I def didn't expect that post to end by saying that shouldn't keep Kav from the SC

[Edited on September 24, 2018 at 4:13 PM. Reason : E]

9/24/2018 3:57:44 PM

Quote :

"While I didn't forcibly remove any clothing, muffle screams, nor have a buddy watch me"

yeah big difference between your situation and kavanaugh's

9/24/2018 4:52:18 PM

^
I think it’s primarily the fact that Kavanaugh has multiple accusations, his victims felt victimized, and that he is not showing any sign of accepting he could have made mistakes in the past is what makes this disqualifying for him.

If Kavanaugh had come out with some remorseful explanation like Gepetto early on AND demonstrated it wasn’t a pattern of behavior, then that specific quality in his past could maybe be looked past. But it seems he was very mysogynistic in his youth, and arguably still carries some of this with him today (the way he handled the Clinton blowjob case certainly wasn’t very deferential to Monica).

9/24/2018 5:26:58 PM

https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1044329355340632064?s=21

Clip from fox interview airing later today

He seems more mad he got caught to me, than anything else

9/24/2018 5:36:56 PM

There's no way to guarantee this hypothetical, but if Kavanaugh had recognized the horrible thing he did while still young and found a way to atone for his act and apologize to Ford, she may not have felt the need to come forward at all. Oh and of course if he had stopped his toxic behavior, which probably would have involved some form of sobriety.

9/24/2018 5:38:26 PM

^ I think that’s the key point.

Just treat people with decency... no one’s perfect, life is a constant learning process, if you treat someone badly own up to it, apologize and deal with any consequences of this.

9/24/2018 5:49:35 PM

Has Kavanaugh responded at all to the doppelganger smear Ed Whelan launched for Kavanaugh's benefit?

9/24/2018 6:44:46 PM

I haven’t seen the fox interview but I’d be surprised if they asked what he knew about whelan

9/24/2018 7:50:03 PM