Boom! Hit a woosh and dropped 2lbs overnight to the lowest I've been in 2 years: 166lbs. About 4-5 more to go over the next 5 weeks

4/23/2013 11:24:27 AM

Anyone going to see Marky Mark's new movie?

Will you be dressing appropriately for the theater to show off how fit you are?

4/24/2013 12:36:38 PM

I feel like Marky Mark has always had this chip on his shoulder about being taken seriously as an actor and not the meathead/Calvin Klein model/Funky Bunch guy...but it's kind of hard when you look like a ball of muscle.

Obviously that was important for this role...but you would think he would slim it down a little in order to get looked at for more serious gigs.

Just to get the argument restarted...I think his level of muscle in this movie would not be found attractive by an overwhelmingly majority of women.

4/24/2013 12:48:07 PM

He's not even that big. Cut down to 8-10% and he'd look even better.

Yes, there are many, maybe even an "overwhelming majority" of women that wouldn't be into that physique. Who cares? There are plenty of smoking hot women that are.

4/24/2013 3:41:50 PM

I just want to take my finger and touch that vein on his back

4/24/2013 3:46:12 PM

Holy fuck that is big. Way tooo big.

4/24/2013 4:13:24 PM

Don't let Mark Wahlberg know, he'd be really upset that you don't approve of his physique.

4/24/2013 4:16:47 PM

Way too big for what? I'd agree it's probably too big to achieve with out AAS.

4/24/2013 4:18:12 PM

^ That I guess. Definitely juicing.

Well...he's big enough for that movie role. But unless he's doing competitions, I see no point in being that big.

Question...what does your body look like when you come down from that? It looks to me like he's about 40 or 50 pounds above his normal size. do you get loose skin after that? I mean...he's fucking jacked.

4/24/2013 4:20:52 PM

Out of all the pics in this thread, including Marky Mark, I most "appreciate" jbrick's pics. Especially since his diet/fitness routine sounds very balanced.

We all have different goals though. Am enjoying reading all the different opinions ITT.

4/24/2013 4:38:46 PM

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"Out of all the pics in this thread, including Marky Mark, I most "appreciate" jbrick's pics."

Hells yeah...my target market.

...as well as my overall health, of course.

Completely missed this a few pages back:

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"145lbs is light! How tall are you?"

I'm 5'7.5". I have an incredibly small waist. Just had to order a pair of slacks from BR that are 28" in the waist and I still have a little room. But of course, they're fucking tight in the thigh and calf...so they are almost skinny pants.

4/24/2013 4:46:42 PM

I feel the same way about women. The "fitness" girls at my gym only look good in workout clothes and "LuLus" but I think there is a certain grace in wearing a dress and in most cases, these girls don't look great in regular clothes.

I'm not hatin'. I'm an ectomorph, it's hard with me, and the amount of work and dedication these girls put in, I do envy.

4/24/2013 4:58:23 PM

^ I'm sure they could look great in regular clothes... but don't know how to dress for their body type. That's the challenge. Gotta dress for your body and not just embrace every trend.

Though, it is tricky to find a perfect pair of jeans when you have an athletic build.

Also, this is hilarious: http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/why-going-to-the-gym-is-a-huge-waste-of-time

[Edited on April 24, 2013 at 5:12 PM. Reason : m]

4/24/2013 5:10:34 PM

I think we've established this before, but jbrick83 and I have pretty identical body types.

Same height, same waist size, I'm a tad lighter but we both put muscle on the same way. Kinda weird

4/24/2013 5:20:06 PM

i'm not attracted to the super low body fat/veiny look but i definitely appreciate bigger muscles on guys. once their neck is as big as their head thats too much for me but i have yet to meet a guy who i thought was "too muscular". i have seen a few at the gym though.

4/24/2013 9:08:09 PM

Here's my progress pic. The April pic is probably almost two weeks old.

4/24/2013 9:17:51 PM

What, are you famous or something?

4/24/2013 10:16:31 PM

I don't know how tall whalberg is, but I do know he's my height (5'8) or shorter...and he was 60lbs heavier than I am for that movie

4/25/2013 12:47:34 AM

Yesterday I walk/jogged for 30minutes (2 minutes of jogging alternated with 1 minute of walking) on the green way near my gym... That's the first time I've ran for an extended distance in over a year Felt pretty good on my injured side, but I can tell I have a way to go until I can hit a <6minute mile.

Woke up today, down another pound to 165 I've hit a great weight loss groove and will probably be able to ride this momentum for another easy 1-2lbs until I need to do another refeed.

The refeed process is like taking a step backwards, so you can take 2 steps forward. Spiking your carbs seems to help with a bunch of pyschological and physiological mechanisms; making getting very lean more feasible.

Next week, I'm going to trim the manbearfur and take some update photos that aren't glamour shots

4/25/2013 8:50:22 AM

^ Can you provide an example of a typical day of eating for you? I am trying to drop some weight to get more "cut" and I've kind of hit a wall at about 10 lbs loss (195 lbs). All through college I was between 190-210 and I'd like to get down to maybe 180.

I've only been working out steadily now for maybe 6 weeks after not being able to for about a year. Sticking to a diet and not eating too many calories has proven difficult as I am hungry a LOT now.

4/25/2013 9:27:30 AM

My diet is hard to cartegorize, I do a hybrid of all the stuff I've learned through out the years...

A combination of intermittent fasting, carb cycling, protein sparing modified fasts, and refeeding.

Yesterday my intake was pretty low calorie and looked like:

Caffeine + Yohiminbine then 30min run/walk
30min later 15g of BCAA
90min later 15g of BCAA
3 eggs and 3 slices of bacon for brunch
hour later Protein shake (30g) + protein bar (20grams)
hour later protein shake
Dinner: 2 pan fried chicken breasts + avacdo + walnuts + cucumber + spinach and lettuce

4/25/2013 9:59:27 AM

Damn. How did you feel on practically no carb?

4/25/2013 10:33:16 AM

"I feel the same way about women. The "fitness" girls at my gym only look good in workout clothes and "LuLus" but I think there is a certain grace in wearing a dress and in most cases, these girls don't look great in regular clothes."
This could probably apply to most of them even without the muscles. I have wide shoulders and think I look funny in strapless dresses. I need to get more muscle on my arms because that would be an improvement over looking so gangly.

4/25/2013 10:48:51 AM

^ Be aware of you posture. That might help.

Are you pretty tall?

[Edited on April 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM. Reason : /]

4/25/2013 11:22:49 AM

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"Damn. How did you feel on practically no carb?"

I felt fine, the day before I had a moderate carb do so I wasn't depleted. I am also fairly well conditioned to run on low carb, since I generally fast ~16hours a day.

If the average joe wanted to try this, there'd be a few week adaptation period.

4/25/2013 12:19:08 PM

^ What kind of protein do you buy?

I have been mainly eating eggs, greek yogurt, nuts, beef jerky, fruit (apples and oranges, some bananas), any kind of meat - chicken, lean pork, steak, etc, lots of 1% milk and soy milk, and then as many veggies as I can get for dinner - mainly green beans, sweet peas, broccoli, squash, zucchini, etc. I'll occasionally have a peanut butter sandwhich at night when I am starving.

I do cheat at some meals and eat some extra carbs like brown rice. I've been at this for a few weeks now and I keep waiting for the pounds to start dropping. I guess I still am getting too many calories though. I am just hungry a lot and drinking water only suffices for so long.

4/26/2013 3:14:09 PM

^ I def need to start eating eggs. Beef Jerky is too fucking expensive. Any tips on where to get it cheap? I mean, I guess I could make it, but still. The only nuts I can bare are pistachios, but they're outrageous, especially if they're pre-shelled. AND I eat entirely too much beef and not enough chicken.

As far as too many calories, I don't know what the fuck it would take for me not to get enough - Everything I look at tells me I need to be taking in AT LEAST 1800 a day (probably significantly more)...well, I'm getting ~1500 most days, and even down to 1000 other days and I haven't dropped a fucking pound over the past 3 months.

No, you all don't care about that. Whatever.

[Edited on April 26, 2013 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

4/26/2013 3:25:52 PM

I order beef jerky in bulk from ebay. Sounds weird, but it's the cheapest and best way to buy it. Some dude sells jerky made in the same factory as Jack's Links under the brand name "Dakota Trails". I buy lots of 125 ounces at 100 bucks, free shipping, which comes out to 80 cents an ounce, which is about half of what you'll pay for by ounce in any store. It's delicious, and the original flavor comes out to something like 80 calories, 15g protein, 3g carbs, .5g fat per ounce.

4/26/2013 4:08:00 PM

^^^ cut the fruit, nuts, and squash and you'll do great. Those are killers on a fat loss diet. Id drop the milk, way too much sugar there are better protein sources.

^^ youre miscalculating your calorie intake. Common mistake. Start measuring your food intake and uploading to a calorie counter for a week and youll see what I mean


[Edited on April 26, 2013 at 6:30 PM. Reason : a]

4/26/2013 6:29:18 PM

I don't know why you'd cut out any of those incredibly nutritious foods. I mean, an entire butternut squash is under 400 calories and it's amazingly filling, delicious, and all around good for you. Cutting out fruit I can understand, but nuts and squash have a good purpose in a cutting diet.

Most people that are overweight don't need a Lyle McDonald "Rapid Fat Loss" inspired diet, they need to eat less. They aren't trying to get shredded, they need some kind of diet/lifestyle that can be sustained in the long-term. I think there is a way to be fit and healthy without forcing yourself through cycles of gluttony and extreme deprivation. If the staples of your diet are real food, instead of processed foods that light up the reward centers of your brain without even coming near a satiety response, the appetite has a tendency to self-regulate.

Yes, you have to intentionally "cut" to get below 12 or 13%, but with a healthy metabolism that shouldn't be too painful. If you have a bad metabolism (from, I don't know, going on crash diets 3 or 4 times a year), then getting ripped is going to be nearly impossible.

4/26/2013 6:51:34 PM

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"^ What kind of protein do you buy? "

As for as powder, I get 100% Whey from Cytosport and ON 100% Isolate from Costco. Cheapest, best tasting and is convenient bc Costco is around the block from my gym.

Beyond the supplementation, I get protein from beef, chicken, tuna, salmon, other white fish, pork, greek yogurt Milk (skim when i cut), protein bars, eggs, bacon.

4/27/2013 7:38:26 AM

Fruit is just incredibly counterproductive on a fat loss diet.

Its simple if you are eating a ton of carbs you will burn less fat

4/27/2013 9:28:20 AM

A bit late on this, but:

I love when less-thans attribute the phenomenal success of others to "steroids" or some other shortcut.

Couldn't just be hard work right? Because then you'd look like that too right?

4/27/2013 9:39:55 AM

Is the keto diet for everyone?

And it's not meant to be adhered for long term correct?

School me.

4/27/2013 2:37:06 PM

The best diets are the ones you can be compliant with.

Why not give it a shot and see how you respond?

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"A bit late on this, but: I love when less-thans attribute the phenomenal success of others to "steroids" or some other shortcut. Couldn't just be hard work right? Because then you'd look like that too right?"

IMO, there's a lot of misrepresentation on what is realistic for an average guy to achieve. Especially in media and marketing.

You can build a great physique with a mix of good genetics, training (quality and quantity), and nutrition. When you add AAS in to the equation, the barrier to a great physique is dramatically lowered.


[Edited on April 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM. Reason : moar]

4/27/2013 6:02:43 PM

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"^^ youre miscalculating your calorie intake. Common mistake. Start measuring your food intake and uploading to a calorie counter for a week and youll see what I mean"

Worth a shot - I've got a minimum of 20lbs of body fat to lose that just won't fucking come off. And of course it's all right in my gut. If I don't suck it in 24/7 I look pregnant.

[Edited on April 27, 2013 at 6:57 PM. Reason : ]

4/27/2013 6:54:59 PM

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"Is the keto diet for everyone? And it's not meant to be adhered for long term correct? School me."

Keto is really good for fat people trying to lose weight. I'm not sure that I really buy into the claim made by many keto advocates: that when you cut out carbs, the body can only run on fat, so you will get fat loss. While it is true that eliminating carbs requires your body to use fat for energy instead, you'll still store fat if you eat too much.

I think the real reason keto works is because a diet high in protein and fat is more satiating than than a standard American high-carb diet.

The problem with long-term keto is that carbs become more important as you lean out. If you're overweight, you can maintain normal leptin levels without any carbs at all. Beyond 10-12% BF for males, 16-18% for females, you simply won't be able to maintain normal leptin levels without some carbs and your fat loss stalls/you feel like shit. Of course, as I said before, not everyone is trying to get shredded.

Also, if you plan to do any kind of sports that require "quick energy", carbs can't really be replaced.

4/27/2013 9:18:08 PM

Without the usage of steroids males have limitations of their genetic potential.

As a novice you can gain around 0.5-1 lb of muscle per week.

When you reach wahlbergs size its more like 4-5 lbs a year and you have to bust your ass just to maintain that muscle without losing it.

So clearly hes on steroids to get those results. Most actors are

4/28/2013 11:16:24 AM

he looks pretty 'roided in the second pic, but not really at all in the first. those pics aren't from the same time, are they?

4/28/2013 12:38:32 PM

he looks a little photoshopped in that second pic, to me.

4/28/2013 12:46:21 PM

[He/She] must be on steroids because I just know that it is impossible to achieve those results otherwise

4/28/2013 12:49:22 PM

are we going to get more pictures of the top of lucy's mons pubis again? because that was pretty cool

4/28/2013 12:58:27 PM

2nd wahlberg pic: THEN WHO WAS CAMERA???

4/28/2013 1:43:00 PM

2nd is a chop.

4/28/2013 1:50:13 PM

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"[He/She] must be on steroids because I just know that it is impossible to achieve those results otherwise"

If you're interested and you keep up with bodybuilding, you know what to look for. There are tested natural bodybuilding competitions, and there's a certain amount of "thickness" or "fullness" to the muscle that natural trainees can't obtain. When you see the giant, bulging traps and huge, bubble-like delts, they're on some kind of drugs.

It's not really taking away from anything they do, it's just part of the game. If you want to stay drug free I think it's probably good to set expectations for yourself. You aren't going to look like Ronnie Coleman solely by working really hard in the gym.

4/28/2013 5:01:38 PM

There's an [old] article on this issue which, to me, is more or less the gospel, so I'll just link to that . Stand by.

4/28/2013 5:52:04 PM

wait isn't grayfox a bubblebobble alias?

4/28/2013 8:27:28 PM

4/28/2013 8:36:35 PM

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"acraw: Is the keto diet for everyone? And it's not meant to be adhered for long term correct? School me."

I started it by accident. It makes me really foggy, which I actually enjoy. If I had children or an intellectually demanding job, it would probably be a problem. I still have ten pounds that I need to lose so it makes sense for me, but I dunno how it would work for people who are just tryna to trim a bit. Also, I don't know about the long term business because I spend a few days in bed eating cheetos/candy every couple months.

In mid-June, I'm planning to get down with some Very Berry Starbursts and some Darkside Skittles. If y'all see any other new candies, post them here, please!

4/28/2013 10:35:48 PM

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"Keto is really good for fat people trying to lose weight. I'm not sure that I really buy into the claim made by many keto advocates: that when you cut out carbs, the body can only run on fat, so you will get fat loss. While it is true that eliminating carbs requires your body to use fat for energy instead, you'll still store fat if you eat too much. I think the real reason keto works is because a diet high in protein and fat is more satiating than than a standard American high-carb diet. The problem with long-term keto is that carbs become more important as you lean out. If you're overweight, you can maintain normal leptin levels without any carbs at all. Beyond 10-12% BF for males, 16-18% for females, you simply won't be able to maintain normal leptin levels without some carbs and your fat loss stalls/you feel like shit. Of course, as I said before, not everyone is trying to get shredded. Also, if you plan to do any kind of sports that require "quick energy", carbs can't really be replaced."

I remember Lyle McDonald saying something about better to just create a large calorie deficit(eat less) for weight loss. Didn't he also say that it would be easier on the calorie deficit than what the average person burns with excercise; the amount burned is insignificant that we are actually overestimating.

For an overweight person, my thought is, it would be better to create a calorie deficit than go on a keto diet ( which I think it's a bit extreme). And a person who is fitter and has a decent amount of lean body mass already, I think would utilize the dietary fats easier for fat burning than a fat person.

And Bridget, I can't get over the foggy headedness. I'm also very tired on it. Everytime I jump into something close to keto, I get frustrated very early and don't get past the 3rd or 4th day. And by the 3rd or 4th day, I can't fucking shit anymore.

I think Matt's right. Choose a plan that you can adhere to for long term. Seems like you're doing better than I was on a high protein/low carb.

4/28/2013 11:32:08 PM