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"The University owns land between Enterprise Street and Maiden Lane, a block containing businesses like Sadlack's Heroes and the Bell Tower Mart, and it accepted a proposal from developer Bernstein Companies to do what it wants with all 1.38 acres of land using the endowment fund. Developers decided a hotel and retail space would be the best fit for the land, according to Vice Chancellor for Business and Finance Charles Leffler. The University will have no part in the actual development of the property. "The goal is not to have any of those particular [businesses] go away – like Sadlack's. Whether it fits into what happens on that block in the future is something we'll have to see," Leffler said. "What [Schwetz] decides to do long-term is something she will have to sort out as options become clearer." But Sadlack's is not the only business in danger. Schoolkids Records has been on Hillsborough Street for 38 years and has moved four times. "We knew that there was a plan in place, but we have asked for the plan and no one has shown us," Ric Culross, Schoolkids Records owner, said."

http://www.technicianonline.com/news/hillsborough-street-business-owners-left-wondering-1.2613159

While I think the project could be good for the street

a) I think it's crap the university is taking such a hands off approach to the development when so much university money is invested into it. That's just asking for trouble.

b) It's bullcrap they're not being more transparent with the current tenants of that building. If I were Schoolkids, I'd at least want a timeline and some idea of what the retail space in the new building are going to be like so I could make a decision on whether to relocate now or stick it out.

8/29/2011 9:04:44 AM

Hillsborough Street is going to look a lot different in a few years with all the projects that are on the horizon. These changes should be interesting in shaping the Universities image and attracting future students to the area. Its fairly exciting to see especially with the current economic conditions.

8/29/2011 11:02:18 PM

Nothing says come to our school like drug stores and hotels

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8/30/2011 1:44:14 AM

^.

8/30/2011 7:16:05 AM

I, for one, loved having the Eckerd Drug right across the street from the library bus stop during my first year or two

8/30/2011 7:30:24 AM

I thought that drug store was still there?

8/30/2011 8:43:14 AM

Eckerd? On Hillsborough? That's been gone since like 2002. Schoolkids was in that building before they moved down where they are now, and that was after Eckerd closed and the space was subdivided.

8/30/2011 8:56:33 AM

I could have sworn I drove by the other day and saw a drug store over there. But google confirms I am crazy

8/30/2011 9:10:48 AM

Eckerd doesn't exist anywhere anymore. They got bought out.

8/30/2011 9:24:51 AM

The two closest drug stores to campus are Kerr Drugs in Mission Valley and CVS in Cameron Village. So, especially as more folks start to live on Hillsborough when the Valentine/Stanhope project becomes occupied, I think a drug store there will make sense.

8/30/2011 9:42:25 AM

There's no CVS at cameron village

8/31/2011 10:57:36 AM

^ Correct, it's a Rite Aid over there.

8/31/2011 11:28:38 AM

Rite Aid, CVS, Walgreens, they all blur together for me.

8/31/2011 11:45:44 AM

Me too, hence my error. Though newer Walgreens do tend to have a very uniform look-and-feel.

[Edited on August 31, 2011 at 1:03 PM. Reason : Didn't that one used to be an Eckerd too before they got bought out?]

8/31/2011 1:02:56 PM

I think it was.

8/31/2011 1:22:51 PM

Burn down sadlacks. Burn down school house records. Anything is better than that shit.

9/3/2011 9:43:07 PM

Schoolkids, guy :-/

9/3/2011 10:22:26 PM

wormhole to chipotle splinter thread

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9/10/2011 12:43:17 PM

9/10/2011 12:50:23 PM

you've stumped me with that one

the hunter has become the hunted

9/10/2011 1:07:37 PM

Chipotle-gone

Gets the Bloody shit stains out of your underwear after eating a burrito

9/10/2011 6:20:06 PM

Come on man. It's right there in the picture.

9/10/2011 7:04:08 PM

hahaha

man i had no clue

forest for the trees

[Edited on September 11, 2011 at 1:35 PM. Reason : !]

9/11/2011 1:34:55 PM

Speaking of Chipotle, the Grand Opening is Sept 20th.

9/14/2011 3:30:38 PM

i wish they had quality places when i was there. all we had that was legit was mitchs

9/15/2011 9:43:58 AM

when were you here?

i bet porter's was there

that place is legit

9/15/2011 7:01:18 PM

The PR is legit

9/15/2011 7:06:08 PM

ate there yesterday... got a hamburger for free :-)

9/17/2011 12:45:11 PM

was at Frazier's last night for dinner. It was great, but I don't understand how that place can survive with it being basically surrounded by the university.

9/17/2011 1:10:34 PM

^More well-to-do old people and academics that love a wine bar than you apparently realize.

9/17/2011 1:24:55 PM

Is it true Two Guys closed down?

9/17/2011 3:00:36 PM

How is Frazier's now? I like the old resturant It was a good panty dropper for an ex.

9/17/2011 3:45:01 PM

Quote :

"ate there yesterday... got a hamburger for free :-)"

senior discount?

9/17/2011 11:58:00 PM

^^Still a good panty-dropper.

http://www.frazierswinebar.com/

9/17/2011 11:59:24 PM

The next phase of Stanhope Center / Valentine Commons has been submitted. It includes 2 buildings along Hillsborough street, one at the corner of Hboro / Concord, the other at Hboro / Friendly. There is also an 1100 space parking deck behind it screened on three sides by a 7-story, 126 unit apartment complex (248 bedrooms total.)


The design of the deck and the 7-story apartments surrounding it is included in the PDF linked below, but the design of the buildings along Hillsborough Street is not really clear (yet.) What is clear about the buildings facing Hillsborough street is that the buildings themselves will be built up to the sidewalks on Hillsborough, but there will be a parking lot between them, facing Hillsborough Street, occupying about 1/4 of the length of the block. There will also be a drive-through in back. Evidently both the drive through and parking lot were insisted upon by Kerr Drug (though I notice they didn't insist upon drive-throughs or parking lots at their store at East 54 in Chapel Hill.)

It's not as bad as it could be, however, since (1) there won't be any driveways from the parking lot to Hillsborough Street; it will be accessed by an alleyway from behind, and (2) the deck has a surplus of parking spaces above and beyond what is required by zoning, so if they ever wanted to build a third building where the parking lot is currently depicted, they could do so with relative ease.

http://www.raleighnc.gov/content/PlanCurrent/Documents/DevelopmentPlansReview/PlansInReview/2011/PlansSubmittalMapsByType/SitePlan/SP-043-11.pdf

10/6/2011 3:34:39 PM

fucking left handed check marks

10/6/2011 8:21:54 PM

lol I noticed that too.

10/6/2011 8:25:39 PM

This is what the building at the corner of Hillsborough & Friendly will look like.

10/7/2011 10:44:01 AM

yo i heard you built a new campus cause you ran out of room on your old campus so we took a blueprint from your new campus and built it next to your old campus

[Edited on October 8, 2011 at 8:36 PM. Reason : -]

10/8/2011 8:34:24 PM

lol pretty much

10/8/2011 8:35:35 PM

^^^ That rendering looks a lot like the newer YMCA on Hillsborough. It also looks somewhat similar to the building right beside it on Friendly. Theres nothing wrong with uniformity in architecture along Hillsborough St. IMO.





[Edited on October 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2011 1:06:58 PM

In some regards it does look centennial-ish. I'm kind of intrigued by the large glass area on the left side of the building though. It's too far away from the YMCA to get any uniformity benefit, IMO, but I suppose it does have a few things in common with the yellow bulldozer building, if the scale matches up.

10/10/2011 12:47:25 AM

It looks like Time Out isn't ready to throw in the towel just yet.

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/food/time-out-in-raleigh-will-return-to-24-hours

10/10/2011 10:00:41 PM

^didn't realize how amazing that place was until a few weeks ago. Its a little expensive, but god is it good.

10/10/2011 10:18:37 PM

It's expensive, quality is hit or miss, and they've suffered a lot from bad decisions on when to open and how to stay open.

I wish the best for them though.

10/11/2011 3:14:47 AM

Honestly, I think it really all boils down to foot traffic. They get tons of it on Franklin St and get very little in comparison on Hboro St. It's not the food or advertising or anything like that imo.

10/11/2011 8:34:06 AM

If they can tough it out until the construction behind/around them is finished and move back into the new building, they'll be golden. The question is where they'll move to in the meantime, as the building they're in will be demolished at some point.

I think it would be really cool if they could move into and rehab the old Nehi bottling plant (the cream-colored brick building with the black entranceway to the left of the Wilmont). That building has been empty ever since I came to Raleigh (1998) and probably a lot longer than that. Someone needs to save it before all of the black bakelite tiles fall off the entranceway.

[Edited on October 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM. Reason : Though they would get even less foot traffic there than they do now, which is a problem.]

10/11/2011 9:23:44 AM

Quote :

"but I suppose it does have a few things in common with the yellow bulldozer building, if the scale matches up."

Val Valentine owns both lots and had the old bulldozer building renovated. I imagine he wants both developments to compliment each other. I remember seeing plans for all this at least 4 years ago.....

10/11/2011 9:36:59 AM

Are you sure Valentine was involved in the Carolina Equipment Company rehab? I didn't think he had anything to do with it.

10/13/2011 2:28:29 PM

^Think you're right about that. I know Jim Goodnight was involved with Lulu (I think his wife runs the company) and, looking at tax records, It was sold from NC Equipment Company to Rose Mary Development holdings, the current owner, in 2007. All of the properties Valentine is planning to build on, save for one, are owned by Courtland Apartments LLC.

10/13/2011 3:56:45 PM