vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i love him. he's the fucking best.
kanye is 100% himself at all times, no matter how delusional, driven, and insane that may be. it's why his records are gleefully all over the place. it's why he can wear diamond masks and put jesus in his show and do synth pop ballad albums and sample richard james. the dude rules. 9/15/2014 3:44:35 AM
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adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to go to a GWAR show but NOT get fake blood and vomit sprayed on me. 9/15/2014 11:20:54 AM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Love his music, but he's still an insane prick. 9/15/2014 11:22:58 AM
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Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to go to a GWAR show but NOT get fake blood and vomit sprayed on me." |
Apples to oranges. ![](images/rolleyes.gif) 9/15/2014 11:27:29 AM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
geniuses at his level tend to be difficult/megalomanic
it kind of comes with the territory 9/15/2014 12:57:48 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^hahaha
oh that post; surprise of my life 9/15/2014 1:04:01 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
I hear what he's saying in that sway interview, and don't wholly disagree with it. It is unfortunate that he chose the harshest and most ignorant way to get his point across. It makes the whole thing hard to listen to. And there is a really high signal to noise / substance to bullshit ratio that turns almost everyone off. 9/15/2014 1:15:39 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
the main problem with his attitude is that he absorbs everything he hears
for example, i don't think he reads what people say about him on the internet, but i think when someone asks about that in an interview, what he hears is "200 million people on the internet say they hate you" and what comes out in his response is an emotional reaction to that statement, even if it's not accurate/not applicable in the moment
he views typical celebrity bullshit as an earnest attack, and combined with the fact that he is indeed trying to do something larger with every facet of his art, he feels backed into a corner on behalf of his views and his art at all times 9/15/2014 1:23:35 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
I will admit that I haven't seen that sway interview in a long time...since shortly after it happened, and can't remember all of the details. From what I remember though, he was saying:
He is trying to go beyond just being a rapper. Which is true.
Doing that through his art requires next level thinking, trend setting, and exploring new areas. Yep, that's also true.
There's a lot of stress and criticism because of this that not many people experience. Yeah, duh.
And in response to sway trying to offer constructive criticism he flew off the handle. But I think what he was trying to say was that sway just didn't understand what he was going through, and thus couldn't possible have the answers. Yeah, true.
Again, I think he said all of this in the absolute worse way possible though.
[Edited on September 15, 2014 at 1:36 PM. Reason : shaky assholes ] 9/15/2014 1:35:01 PM
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BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
so... how's he gone beyond it? that's all he's done. 9/15/2014 1:51:09 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
A clothing line, and making music that isn't what most would consider rap in the traditional sense. Those are the examples that roll off the top of my head. 9/15/2014 2:08:52 PM
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moron All American 34409 Posts user info edit post |
It's kinda weird to think Kanye is griping about 13 million, when Microsoft just spent $2.5 billion on mine craft. Facebook spent $19 billion on WhatsApp. 9/15/2014 2:09:49 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
lol, last year I went to the Kanye and Kendrick Lamar concert. Kanye laid down on stage and bitched/sang about his problems for 25 minutes at one point. He was wearing a sparkly mask, and he lookedlike his breath stunk. 9/15/2014 2:12:48 PM
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Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And in response to sway trying to offer constructive criticism he flew off the handle. But I think what he was trying to say was that sway just didn't understand what he was going through, and thus couldn't possible have the answers. Yeah, true. " |
IMHO it was an immature response to failing to break into the fashion industry. He bad mouthed a lot of people in his rant. In his eyes it has to be someone else's fault that his designs didn't gain traction. I can see how that sort of brevity can be helpful for entrepreneurs in some situations, but I see no indication that he has done any inner reflection as to why his designs may not have succeeded. Did he really spend time studying fashion and design to come up with an innovative and stylish line, or does he just think that if he spends enough money he should be able to slap his name on anything and expect the world to appreciate it?
There are plenty of people who have worked harder and spent more time studying design and fashion who will never make it, but they don't have the luxury of using their fame as an entertainer to spew garbage about those who have enjoyed success.
[Edited on September 15, 2014 at 2:23 PM. Reason : l] 9/15/2014 2:21:01 PM
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jocristian All American 7528 Posts user info edit post |
Even the president thinks he is a jackass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078BGtKNL1o 9/15/2014 2:24:55 PM
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slappy1 All American 2303 Posts user info edit post |
confirm/deny: he is the black male version of Lady Gaga
(re: delusional narcissistic personality disorder, convinced that what they're doing is "art" in every sense of the word) 9/15/2014 2:52:40 PM
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Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
I fucking hate this dude and his rap blows.
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 9/15/2014 2:55:11 PM
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LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
^He's been around longer than Lady Gaga...so wouldn't she be the female version of Kanye? 9/15/2014 2:55:17 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
Gaga isn't even in the same universe when it comes to her impact on music in general when compared to Kanye 9/15/2014 2:57:41 PM
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slappy1 All American 2303 Posts user info edit post |
what is his impact? 9/15/2014 2:58:16 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
kanye makes great records. lady gaga does not. 9/15/2014 3:02:05 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Drake doesn't become Drake if 808s and Heartbreak never comes out
(and that's the Kanye album that most thought was a mis-step, yet it's been hugely influential) 9/15/2014 3:04:08 PM
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EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
At the very least, Kanye is an extremely prolific producer.
He just doesn't yell out MIKE WILL MADE IT on every song for which he had production involvement.
[Edited on September 15, 2014 at 3:08 PM. Reason : SWISS SWISS BEATS] 9/15/2014 3:05:03 PM
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dmspack oh we back 25817 Posts user info edit post |
Is Lady Gaga still, like, a thing? Honest question. 9/15/2014 3:29:31 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
She's on the cover of this week's Parade Magazine! 9/15/2014 3:38:11 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
get back to me when she takes an instrument-less Justin Vernon vocal, a spoken-word piece from Gil Scott-Heron, and turns it into an absolutely epic jam
[Edited on September 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .] 9/15/2014 4:41:52 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
He's no Trent Reznor 9/15/2014 5:22:25 PM
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slappy1 All American 2303 Posts user info edit post |
^^what is that?
Speaking of, when will Bon Iver PLEASE put out a new album 9/15/2014 7:53:52 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
He's talking about "Lost in the World."
Repave came out last year, isn't that good enough? 9/15/2014 9:20:50 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
ITT we learnt thegoodlife has different meanings for 'genius' and 'epic' than everyone else 9/15/2014 9:25:55 PM
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Big4Country All American 11919 Posts user info edit post |
I thought he was a gay fish? 9/15/2014 9:29:28 PM
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Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
yeah wow nice 5 year old recycled ad nauseum joke 9/15/2014 10:25:44 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
so he unleashed on Sway because his clothing line didn't sell? I had no idea he even had a clothing line. Guess not everybody can make Sean John or Wu Wear or Rocawear. 9/15/2014 11:37:52 PM
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ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18949 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Love his music, but he's still an insane prick." |
9/16/2014 12:41:41 AM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ITT we learnt thegoodlife has different meanings for 'genius' and 'epic' than everyone else" |
more like any thread about music / media / art, ever. 9/16/2014 9:58:46 AM
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dmspack oh we back 25817 Posts user info edit post |
http://rankings.gawker.com/kanye-west-album-tracks-ranked-1635086563/+laceydonohue
gawker made a pretty shitty ranking of all kanye west's songs. how shitty, you may ask. this shitty:
Quote : | " 64. We Major
63. Roses
62. Homecoming
61. Crack Music" |
9/16/2014 2:38:42 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
it's been ripped apart all day, thankfully
LOTS OF CLICKS, THOUGH 9/16/2014 2:48:30 PM
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dmspack oh we back 25817 Posts user info edit post |
i mean...it's somebody's opinion of their favorite kanye songs. so i can't be too hard on them...but come on. "we major" being one of his worst and that damn "lost in the world" track being one of his best? really hard for me to respect that list and the writer of it.
besides, any list that doesn't just outright rank all of 808s at the very bottom is a bad list imo.
[Edited on September 16, 2014 at 3:03 PM. Reason : d] 9/16/2014 3:02:51 PM
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ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18949 Posts user info edit post |
That list lost me when "So Appalled" was ranked last. 9/16/2014 3:48:36 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
"Flashing Lights" being as low as it is on that list is absurd, but it's just one dudes opinion, so meh 9/16/2014 4:19:11 PM
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Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
The deifying of this guy that some people are doing ITT is actually disturbing. You'd think that there actually was a god, and this guy was actually his son. Instead of him just being a talented rapper/producer/whatever. 9/16/2014 4:30:11 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
deifying? disturbing?
what??? 9/16/2014 4:40:21 PM
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nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
Kanye will always be an enigma to me. I dont give damn about all these interviews nowadays. if you look back at his early interviews in his early career him being egotistical was the only thing that got him thru the door. Jay Z wanted no parts of him. It's funny to me now that he wants to be "beyond a rapper" cause earlier he wanted to be so bad to be a rapper.
I thought at first he was hip hops messiah ( i know he thinks this) He was the bridge between underground afro centric rap and mainstream "bling bling" rap. Then something....happen...I think it was his mother's death. he drowned himself in alcohol and strippers. however I think "My twisted dark fantasy" is his best album
I still love his music despite him. Kanye pandora radio station is always on lock
[Edited on September 16, 2014 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ,,] 9/16/2014 4:46:31 PM
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Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In his eyes it has to be someone else's fault that his designs didn't gain traction." |
actually he said multiple fucking times that it was his fault and that he "didn't know enough" about fashion because it was hard to balance it with hip hop, but that he was trying.
Quote : | "Did he really spend time studying fashion and design" |
Of course he did.
Quote : | "however I think "My twisted dark fantasy" is his best album" |
Ya, you like it so much you have no idea what it's called.
And if you people could get past his taylorswifty incidents for two seconds and actually listen to him or use a little critical thinking you'd realize how incredibly subversive he is. 9/16/2014 5:27:08 PM
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Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
Just curious, is dating a Kardashian part of his subversion? 9/16/2014 5:36:01 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
rock stars have never dated/married celebrities before 9/16/2014 5:38:48 PM
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Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
^^I mean it's pretty perfect that the most unreasonably hated male celebrity is married to the most unreasonably hated female celebrity. 9/16/2014 5:41:21 PM
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
Is it not reasonable to "hate" someone for being a pompous asshole?
I think he's really good at making beats, but that's about it
He's definitely not on the Beatles / James Brown level that some of you want to put him on as far as impacting music
[Edited on September 16, 2014 at 5:46 PM. Reason : .] 9/16/2014 5:43:39 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
we're in the middle of his run and he's already impacted contemporary music greatly
those artists full impact wasnt completely felt while they were in the middle of their runs, either 9/16/2014 5:49:13 PM
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y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
i hate full impact in the middle of the runs 9/16/2014 7:38:03 PM
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