AlaskanGrown I'm Randy 4694 Posts user info edit post |
Is it on now somewhere? Bout to start here. 2/15/2011 7:30:16 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I know the people know the answers to these questions because I know half of them. It seems like nobody can buzz in time. Watson is getting the first chance to answer every question.
[Edited on February 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM. Reason : l] 2/15/2011 7:35:47 PM |
Hey_McFly All American 1116 Posts user info edit post |
i lol'ed at the collective gasp from the audience when Watson blew the final jeopardy question 2/15/2011 7:36:02 PM |
AlaskanGrown I'm Randy 4694 Posts user info edit post |
WHY YOU GUYS RUINING MY JEOPARDY, also why does my jeopardy start at 7:30 instead of 7:00 like you guys. 2/15/2011 7:41:49 PM |
mizzo All American 3541 Posts user info edit post |
^what he said 2/15/2011 7:42:32 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
BTW my cousin was on jeopardy a few years back and won 4 days in a row, racked up like $70,000
http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2007/11/16/jeopardy-contest-has-answers/ 2/15/2011 7:44:00 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28381 Posts user info edit post |
After watching tonight's episode, I'm pretty sure IBM is paying the humans to throw the game. 2/15/2011 8:16:48 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39458 Posts user info edit post |
what makes you say that?
they are obviously buzzing in, Watson is just faster 2/15/2011 8:19:17 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Terminator is out there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQFXneSROf8#t=01m16s
2/15/2011 8:53:08 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "does watson determine his own wager? " |
definitely. i'm sure there's some algorithm that takes into account everyone's scores and such, hence the _exact_ wagers.
also there's an algorithm for figuring out which spaces are more likely to be daily doubles, hence the erratic picking
[Edited on February 15, 2011 at 9:48 PM. Reason : .]2/15/2011 9:47:52 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I want MIT to develop an implant for Ken Jennings' brain and then throw him up head to head against Watson.
Also, I know a girl who's last name is Watson and she is hot. 2/15/2011 10:02:55 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
emma watson amirite
2/15/2011 10:11:40 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what makes you say that?
they are obviously buzzing in, Watson is just faster" |
If by faster, you mean immediate, then yeah. I don't understand how the humans ever beat it to the button unless they have it occasionally programmed to 'lose' the grab. I don't see how it is fair at all given the total disadvantage with the clickers, a much better contest would involve them all answering the questions and seeing how many the humans got right versus Watson.2/15/2011 10:17:24 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords 2/15/2011 10:23:28 PM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You can wager up to the highest valued question in that round. So $1k in Jeopardy $2k in double Jeopardy." |
Right, if you have below 1k or 2k. If you have more than that you can wager up to whatever you have.2/15/2011 10:25:20 PM |
HaLo All American 14302 Posts user info edit post |
the whole contest won't determine if Watson is "smarter" than Jeopardy Champions
however, it is incredibly clear to me that Watson is AS smart as the Jeopardy Grand Champions
Quote : | "KEN JENNINGS : Good human players do this all the time: you buzz when you see something that trips some "This looks familiar!" switch in your brain and count on dredging it out in the five seconds after Alex calls on you.
Watson can't do this: it only buzzes once it has an answer in mind and a sufficiently high confidence interval. As weird as it sounds, yes, the human brain still has a speed advantage over a 2,880-processor-core computer." |
from Ken Jennings live-blog: http://live.washingtonpost.com/jeopardy-ken-jennings.html
realize that Watson realistically only gets ~3 seconds to determine the answer (the time it takes Alex to read the question), while the humans get 8 (3 for reading + 5 second countdown)2/15/2011 10:28:46 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
That's cool and all, but watching it tonight it just does not seem to be the case at all. There were tons of questions that even I knew, and I know the two champs knew very easily, yet Watson always beat them on the clicker, Ken himself even got a smirky annoyed face toward the end after so many in a row. 2/15/2011 10:33:27 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the whole contest won't determine if Watson is "smarter" than Jeopardy Champions
however, it is incredibly clear to me that Watson is AS smart as the Jeopardy Grand Champions" |
If by smart you mean "knows trivia"2/15/2011 10:37:17 PM |
BubbleBobble EUPHALO.COM RIP JK 114575 Posts user info edit post |
ugh emma watson with that short hair.... 2/15/2011 10:40:12 PM |
HaLo All American 14302 Posts user info edit post |
by smart I mean able to develop the answer to complex natural language questions. exactly what jennings and rutter are doing. 2/15/2011 10:44:49 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
I agree that it's not really fair since Watson can respond way faster than a puny human 2/15/2011 10:45:29 PM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ugh emma watson with that short hair...." | I ♥ androgyny2/15/2011 10:47:35 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I think this is horse shit. If it isn't going to do voice recognition, then it should get the text file after Trebek finishes.
You can't take out one of the hardest parts of the jeopardy problem and give the computer a huge advantage at getting input.
By the time Trebek is done reading, the fucking computer has processed the text file and come up with an answer, and it can out buzz a human every time.
This is an IBM infomercial. Fuck them 2/15/2011 10:52:29 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
im wondering if the computer takes into account the category at all... i mean guessing "Toronto" for "US Cities"?? 2/15/2011 10:57:46 PM |
fleetwud AmbitiousButRubbish 49741 Posts user info edit post |
Stupid 15 terabyte iPod. 2/15/2011 11:07:51 PM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
hehe
Quote : | "If you are the winner, would you be willing to sit with the Watson designers to improve the machine even further? If so, what would you suggest?
A. Ken Jennings :
The Watson team told me two things after the match: that the idea for Watson was born after watching my 2004 streak on Jeopardy, and that they watched LOTS of tape of me while honing its skills. "There's a lot of you in Watson," one guy said. So I already feel like the Dr. Frankenstein here. If it goes amuck and kills humanity and stuff so sorry lolz my bad! " |
2/15/2011 11:13:28 PM |
Lavim All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If by faster, you mean immediate, then yeah. I don't understand how the humans ever beat it to the button unless they have it occasionally programmed to 'lose' the grab. I don't see how it is fair at all given the total disadvantage with the clickers, a much better contest would involve them all answering the questions and seeing how many the humans got right versus Watson." |
2/15/2011 11:23:59 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
not sure if it has been said, but watson is physically mashing a clicker, for what its worth. 2/16/2011 12:02:23 AM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "by smart I mean able to develop the answer to complex natural language questions. exactly what jennings and rutter are doing." |
It's clearly not as good at that as the other two (or most any other fully functional/remotely educated human) based on some of the specatcular failures, but the advantage in sheer trivia knowledge and reaction speed makes up for it.
[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 1:34 AM. Reason : ]2/16/2011 1:33:26 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10253 Posts user info edit post |
Please watch the special Nova just did on Watson. It's on the PBS app and probably online somewhere. Really good.
^dude it's not about trivia or any of that shit. This is a proof of concept and a sneak peek at what our future holds. A computer system that can understand what it is being asked and then reliably find the right answer? To be able to access an enormously vast amount of data that you could never hope to memorize? Imagine the implications of such a system in medicine, for example.
It's not perfect yet, but it is extremely impressive. It is way more than a simple search engine.
[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 2:50 AM. Reason : Lol nerds] 2/16/2011 2:41:42 AM |
lewisje All American 9196 Posts user info edit post |
^watch online here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/smartest-machine-on-earth.html 2/16/2011 4:00:18 AM |
Pikey All American 6421 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is TORONTO???????" |
2/16/2011 7:46:04 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103355 Posts user info edit post |
2/16/2011 8:11:52 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |
The beginning of the end..
2/16/2011 8:13:06 AM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^dude it's not about trivia or any of that shit. This is a proof of concept and a sneak peek at what our future holds. A computer system that can understand what it is being asked and then reliably find the right answer? To be able to access an enormously vast amount of data that you could never hope to memorize? Imagine the implications of such a system in medicine, for example.
It's not perfect yet, but it is extremely impressive. It is way more than a simple search engine. " |
Yeah I know why it was built, but I'm saying it's not as smart as a human. It's very impressive for a computer though.2/16/2011 9:45:00 AM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
^ how do you measure 'smart'? 2/16/2011 9:57:13 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 28381 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so sorry lolz my bad!" |
2/16/2011 10:10:07 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder who would win a Jeopardy match between Watson and Smarterchild? 2/16/2011 10:22:02 AM |
dharney All American 4445 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "realize that Watson realistically only gets ~3 seconds to determine the answer (the time it takes Alex to read the question), while the humans get 8 (3 for reading + 5 second countdown)" |
good point. score humans!2/16/2011 10:50:01 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Not impressed. Let me know when they design a computer that can beat humans in freestyle rap battles. 2/16/2011 10:52:14 AM |
Wraith All American 27276 Posts user info edit post |
^It would sound like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6H0i1RAdHk 2/16/2011 10:59:17 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "by smart I mean able to develop the answer to complex natural language questions." |
actually, it's developing the question to complex natural language answers.2/16/2011 1:49:16 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
i am enjoying this
lolz humans got the ikea question.
[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 7:04 PM. Reason : .] 2/16/2011 7:03:31 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
2/16/2011 7:06:59 PM |
khcadwal All American 35165 Posts user info edit post |
ken is so pissed
i just watched last nights and he was glaring at watson like the entire time
lol
p.s. SHIFT you stupid men/computers
[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 7:11 PM. Reason : .] 2/16/2011 7:10:37 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
delete key encryption home is where the heart is
2/16/2011 7:13:36 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35780 Posts user info edit post |
I FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW COMPUTER OVERLORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 2/16/2011 7:27:14 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
^ 2/16/2011 7:32:30 PM |
wwwebsurfer All American 10217 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If by faster, you mean immediate, then yeah. I don't understand how the humans ever beat it to the button unless they have it occasionally programmed to 'lose' the grab. I don't see how it is fair at all given the total disadvantage with the clickers, a much better contest would involve them all answering the questions and seeing how many the humans got right versus Watson." |
There are several posts on the IBM blog explaining this. First, watson can't always have an answer ready by the end of the question - so he doesn't ring in until he has an answer.
Also, on stage there is a light that "enables" the clickers. When this light comes on can be anticipated to some degree by the humans, but watson has to wait to verify signal.
Last, you can see on the shorter questions watson getting owned. He wasn't able to come up with answers fast enough - chronicled by the whipping he was receiving in early parts of rounds today. If you had a board stacked with short questions he'd never win.2/16/2011 8:51:10 PM |
snarfus Veteran 198 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't read the thread, but I'd be interested in hearing about the algorithm used to determine what he wagers for double jeopardy and final jeopardy. 2/16/2011 9:00:14 PM |