neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Well i just downloaded the normal graphical client. Should i change that to the beta smp one? (on vista 64 bit) And am i correct you can run this on as many computers as you want with the user name? and that adds to the completed WU's? 5/29/2007 6:46:58 PM |
LeGo All American 3916 Posts user info edit post |
yeah running it on multiple computers with same username/teamid will bump up your stats. 5/29/2007 6:56:13 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah you can run as many PCs/PS3s under your username (spell it the same each time of course) and all the production counts towards your username, and towards our team.
I would try to run the SMP client if I were you (shutdown the graphical first). Those work units are worth a lot more points for you/the team and its a bigger help for the research.
I was reading through the forums and it looks like you should be ok: http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=19416&highlight=vista
If something doesn't work right, you can always go back to the graphical. 5/29/2007 6:56:38 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
I did the benchmark thing and it said average of 263ppd. That alright? Ok i'm gonna try to switch to the smp client.
-ok switched to smp client, it says "completed 0 out of 1000000 steps", and both cores are maxes out at 100%. This seem right?
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 7:15 PM. Reason : :] 5/29/2007 7:01:12 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah thats perfect, both cores will be 100%, but its running at low priority so if you try to do something else with the machine FAH will back off.
And you'll probably be getting 700-800 PPD or more with the 6600. You can see what other people are getting with this: http://fahinfo.org/index.php You'll have to use FAHMon or look at logs to see which project you're working on so you can use that site. 5/29/2007 7:20:41 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
It keeps shutting down. "Folding@home core shutdown:MISSING_WORK_FILES" -before that "Examination of works files indicates 8 consecutive improper terminations of core." -now it's just stuck on "finalizing output"
[Edited on May 29, 2007 at 7:48 PM. Reason : .] 5/29/2007 7:45:14 PM |
synchrony7 All American 4462 Posts user info edit post |
^ That program isn't giving me any info (no PPD, most of the fields are blank). 5/29/2007 8:02:24 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
hmm, i'm not sure
heres a thread for missing work files http://forum.folding-community.org/fpost187323.html
i would just give it an hour or somethine, come back to it and see where you are. You can always post your logfile on that forums website above and i'm sure someone would be able to figure it out. 5/29/2007 8:03:37 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
ok it fixed itself the first time, but it keeps doing this: [time]Complete 0 out of 500000 steps [time]which no further progress can me made. [time]This may be the correct result of the simulation, however if you often see other proiject units termintating early (done this twice) you may wish to check the stability of your computer...etc [time]going to send back what have done. [time]failed to delete work... [time]failed to delete work [time]warning: check for stray files [time]....etc....deleting current work unit and continuing. that's the jist of it, and it's done this 3 times already. 5/29/2007 8:24:28 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
I signed up a couple days ago and I leave it running 5/29/2007 8:41:00 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
i'm getting 1760pts/WU/day now on my oc'd E6600:
05.30.07 1,760 1 05.29.07 1,760 1 05.28.07 1,523 1 05.25.07 1,523 1 05.24.07 1,523 1
reminds me of the days of 'ol when we had those week-long tinker WU's that turned out 1,000+ points.... now it's just a day, rather 22 hours... 5/31/2007 10:34:54 AM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I really have no idea. ^^Keep it coming. ^Wow, that is impressive. That's about my total output with all of my machines. ---
5/31/2007 10:42:31 PM |
treznor All American 5218 Posts user info edit post |
I do this too but I can't see any of our info when I type it into the website 5/31/2007 10:48:31 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah finally got it working, got 1923 ppd on a water OCed 6600 on Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
[Edited on June 1, 2007 at 12:18 AM. Reason : .] 6/1/2007 12:15:34 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
damn, keep it up! We can really use the points. 6/1/2007 12:24:39 AM |
Mr Teeny Veteran 306 Posts user info edit post |
I just signed up for this... so what's the point of points? Just to keep up friendly competition? 6/2/2007 9:44:22 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
using the SMP client I get Client-core communication errors. 6/2/2007 10:45:06 PM |
KRUZNBY All American 2655 Posts user info edit post |
^^Points are for friendly competition and to document how much you/we have contributed to the project. ^ The SMP client is still beta, so it looks like this is one of the still unresolved errors. http://icrontic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10156
Quote : | "Client-Core Communications Error: There are several different kinds of this error.
ERROR 0xX is basically another form of an unknown error. It can be found on Linux if you're having Glibc version problems. See the Linux forum for more info. Overclocking is another possible cause. ERROR 0x1 has occured with both Gromacs and Genome units. Its cause is still unknown. This error has not been replicated by the Pande group. There are known solutions to 0xX if it's caused by overclocking (stop!) or Glibc (see Linux forum). Otherwise, there's no known fix. Post relevant sections of FAHlog.txt (including version and type of client) and which version your OS is and continue folding/genoming.
ERROR 0x1 has been reported to occur if the core is killed while the client is processing, though this is a fairly rare occurrence if you are not using scripts that kill the core.
Code: [15:07:06] CoreStatus = 1 (1) [15:07:06] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x1 [15:07:06] Deleting current work unit & continuing... [15:07:26] Trying to send all finished work units [15:07:26] + No unsent completed units remaining. [15:07:26] - Preparing to get new work unit...Thanks to gnewbury for information on this form of ERROR 0x1.
ERROR 0xC0000005 means there was a memory access violation. This is a standard Windows error code for any program trying to access memory it does not control. This can be a rare hardware error and is not cause for concern. Old versions of clients/cores can also cause this problem.
ERROR 0x________, where the blank is an eight-digit hexadecimal code, is usually a general Windows error. Look up the specific Windows error code (if you need help, just post a thread) and you will most likely find the cause. Thanks to Bruce and Guha for clarifying 0xX errors. " |
6/3/2007 7:49:41 AM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Mine is 0xffffffff 6/3/2007 1:40:38 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
NM, I'll just run the regular console client I guess. 6/3/2007 2:02:24 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
When it starts as a service does it still bring up the console? If it does is there any way to configure it to run without the console or any display at all? 6/3/2007 2:53:32 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When it starts as a service does it still bring up the console? If it does is there any way to configure it to run without the console or any display at all?" |
No, when it runs as a service it doesn't bring up the console or any display at all. (for the regular or SMP running as a service)6/3/2007 3:50:24 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Well I got 4 machines going. Had to turn HT off on my p4d, unfortunate I couldn't get the SMP client to work, but the FAQ advises against using it with only 2 cores:
Quote : | "We strongly suggest people run this client on 4-core boxes. While it will run on 2-core boxes, we have noticed some potential problems (we are looking into these issues now)." |
6/3/2007 5:19:36 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ Awesome.
I've been using the SMP on my PentiumD 2.8GHz dual-core with no problems...and my buddy is running it on a couple dual-cores too. But sometimes it does take a couple trys to get it working right.
If you want to try and resolve it I'd post a thread in the folding forums, they're pretty good at fixing stuff. http://forum.folding-community.org/forums.html 6/3/2007 7:20:10 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Actually I just got it to run 2 instances per the instructions in the FAQ, seems to be using both cores. Have to copy exe to seperate folder and use advanced config to specify different Machine IDs, and specify -local parameter in the services' properties. AFAIK it seems to be working correctly.
[Edited on June 3, 2007 at 7:30 PM. Reason : of course they aren't working on the same thing, but meh.] 6/3/2007 7:26:51 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ good work, that can be tricky.
If you want to see how many PPD your machines are producing:
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/71068-how-use-fahmon-monitor-my-folding.html http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/
and you can compare your numbers with these: http://fahinfo.org/index.php 6/3/2007 7:31:04 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I'm waiting for all the PPD's to update after last config and restart -- will post. 6/3/2007 7:39:57 PM |
dakota_man All American 26584 Posts user info edit post |
Total PPD = 771.12 :-\ 6/3/2007 8:57:16 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
This is wild, we have the highest number of new users i've seen lately (12) and the highest number of active users i've seen lately (60) but the production numbers are stalled
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59 6/5/2007 2:40:36 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
put a little perspective on it, we are #3 in the university list, and when it comes down to ACTUAL students running F@H, we are probably #1
84 Mississippi State University 13,897,373 99 University of Kentucky Systems Labs 11,155,306 103 NCSU Wolfpack 10,720,468
don't forget this is to help research, it's not about points or rank, but if it makes you feel better, keep striving for the top
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 2:59:23 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ good info, thanks.
Of course its not all about the points, but the more points you get the more research you are helping (roughly speaking).
and its fun to strive for the top[100], I think we can get there if we all put the word out and keep installing clients when possible 6/5/2007 3:15:23 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
-Question Over the summer i'm working at a mechanical engineering firm, and i might be able to get them to run folding on say 10-20 of thier computers. Is there a way to say schedule the service to only run at night? 6/5/2007 3:23:14 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
you'd probably be better off at setting it to stay on all the time and just dropping it to idle@50% so it's only using 50% of cpu time even when it's just idle.
i have it set to idle@100% at work and i don't notice it nor any performance lag (and i run some demanding apps in architecture firm) so i'd say idle@50% would be safe.
only thing i notice is the fan is a bit louder than normal
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 3:24:48 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
How would i do that? Because they're using AutoCad 2008 most of the day so i wouldn't want to disrupt that. 6/5/2007 3:26:35 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
use the text-only console
when you launch it for the first time it will run through the configuration options... when asked would you like to run it as a service, type yes, when asked how you want to run it (normal/idle), type idle, when asked how much cpu time, type 50
don't forget team 59 6/5/2007 3:32:01 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet, so that's basically saying it'll run whenever idle at 50 percent?
-Also, i should use the smp console on any dual core cpus, and the regular service on p4 w/ HT, correct? The smp ones just generate WUs alot faster?
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 3:49 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 3:36:40 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
pretty much, yup, technically speaking they finish a work unit faster, not generate, but you get the idea
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 3:52:19 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah sorry finish a unit faster. -well i'm going to see how many cpus i can get running this summer. We'll get back in that top 100. 6/5/2007 3:59:22 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
some more info...
last month was our biggest month EVER!
last 7 months
05.07 516,711 1,949 04.07 377,685 1,596 03.07 289,980 1,295 02.07 238,324 1,138 01.07 246,342 2,071 12.06 246,402 2,633 11.06 268,430 1,765
we are holding on strong, considering it's summer break for most:
last 7 weeks
05.27.07 122,788 464 05.20.07 123,190 452 05.13.07 106,650 425 05.06.07 109,875 417 04.29.07 119,792 454 04.22.07 106,844 496 04.15.07 89,857 403
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 4:10 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 4:09:23 PM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
Summer break means more computer downtime for most people=more folding! 6/5/2007 4:18:38 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sweet, so that's basically saying it'll run whenever idle at 50 percent?
-Also, i should use the smp console on any dual core cpus, and the regular service on p4 w/ HT, correct? The smp ones just generate WUs alot faster? " |
Yeah install SMPs where you can (on the multi-core machines).
SMP client generates 500-1000+ PPD where the standard console client on a P4 will only be 100-200PPD (but everything helps!)6/5/2007 4:35:47 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
the one thing i didn't think about is that i'm running 4gb in windows w/ 3gb switch, and F@H uses about 320-360MB of memory, so it doesn't affect me much...
you'll have to check the memory on the CAD machines, but most CAD applications don't use over 1gb unless it's 3d based 6/5/2007 5:05:44 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
i think only the SMP client uses that much memory, the standard console clients don't use anywhere near that much.
obviosuly if any other program wants processor cycles, f@h gives them up, and i'm assuming the memory gets released too. 6/5/2007 5:38:48 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hi...i have a 1.7ghz pentium 4-m laptop with 384mb of ram...i'm just curious how many points yall think i could get a day? i see prospero or someone in this thread got like 1800 a day on his overclocked e6600...what am i looking at, maybe 800 points a day or something?
my computer seems slow sometimes so i'm not sure what it'd get 6/5/2007 5:54:55 PM |
LeGo All American 3916 Posts user info edit post |
100 6/5/2007 7:08:18 PM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
on avg. 60-160 ppd per ghz
[Edited on June 5, 2007 at 7:19 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2007 7:18:50 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Now I have 4 active CPU's...I got a C2D E6320 BTW and that too will be operational by next week. Gonna see some 1600 PPD a day from that monster! Gimme some tips on OC'ing and optimizing for folding. I want to get all I can out of this thing. 6/6/2007 8:47:06 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
The E6320 is a nice C2D. The 4m of L2 cache is defin worth it over the older versions with only 2. I'm sure you'll be able to get that thing up to 3.0. What type of mobo and ram are you including with it? 6/6/2007 9:04:34 AM |
neodata686 All American 11577 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32323/113/ smart idea, and it won't heat up my apartment room. 6/6/2007 9:25:39 AM |
Prospero All American 11662 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gimme some tips on OC'ing and optimizing for folding." |
i'd say your #1 concern should be cpu frequency, don't worry about optimizing your memory bus, go for optimizing towards the cpu bus, also get a really good cpu cooler as F@H is one of the best methods to stress test a cpu and build up heat, the larger the cooler, typically the safer your cpu will be due to increased heat by the voltage increases (if any) under load.
3.0ghz should be fairly easy, that'd be 7x429 for you, you'll probably need a "slight" vcore bump, but nothing too extreme, it'll really depend on the motherboard
i've had my E6600 up to 3.6, but for day-to-day and to prolong the life of my cpu (and keep it cooler) i run mine at 3.0, still a good jump from default 2.4
[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 9:30 AM. Reason : .]6/6/2007 9:28:33 AM |