Or you know, the fact that ROGER AILES is helping him with debate prep.

8/23/2016 11:14:50 AM

I would like to get a reasoned response from B4C about the Trump campaign backing away from the infeasible deportation plan he talked about all primary and advocating for more of the same of Obama's deportation policy.

[Edited on August 23, 2016 at 11:33 AM. Reason : X]

8/23/2016 11:33:24 AM

^prob similar to the day after cruz dropped out trump was for a living wage and more taxing of the rich.

8/23/2016 11:41:24 AM

http://slate.me/2bZ0JzY

8/25/2016 1:45:56 PM

Ann Coulter is amazing,

8/25/2016 2:03:05 PM

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what he's going to waffle on. Mark my words.

His base will be left scratching their heads if he gets elected, asking themselves who they voted for.

But really, what, if any, of his half-explained policies are right-leaning anymore? He was only retardedly right on immigration. Sure, he says he'll undo the ACA, but we all know he won't be able to realistically touch it. What's left? He's only hawkish on ISIS, it seems like the rest of his foreign policy anti-interventionist.

8/25/2016 2:04:37 PM

The "alt-right" is just nice way of saying white supremacists:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-ad-kkk-trump-227404

8/25/2016 2:24:49 PM

Well, you have to ask yourself, who is base? Sure, you've got the straight white male supremacists but that's a considerably smaller share of his supporters than you'd expect from watching his rallies. Nah, his real base are disaffected Republicans who have been tricked into voting against their own interests since the Reagan administration. These are people who've been told that if you let us cut taxes on the rich, pollute your environment, slash entitlements, deregulate everything, then we'll let you keep your guns and eventually prosperity will "trickle down".

Well, they still have their guns, but they lost their houses, retirement and their jobs have been shipped to China. So they, rightfully, revolted against the Republican establishment and turned to Trump. The problem is, while they blamed the right people, they haven't yet figured out that it's supply-side economics that have been fucking them over, which Trump is planning on continuing.

8/25/2016 2:36:50 PM

Clinton just unleashed a blistering line of attack on Trump regarding the white supremacy issue.

8/25/2016 3:51:20 PM

She should.

Among a lot of dangerous things he has done, the normalization of a HORRENDOUS part of our society is by far the worse.

8/25/2016 3:53:38 PM

^^^^ I take it that politico journalist sent that draft to the DNC for approval before he sent it to his own editor?

8/25/2016 5:14:37 PM

Cam here to post about the new Hillary ad, but I see that's been taken care of. So after clicking links on a few different sites about the ad, came across these interesting clips:

3rd video here:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-matthews-blasts-hillary-for-accurate-ku-klux-klan-ad-without-knowing-facts
So KKK is recruiting in Virginia by dropping leaflets outside homes?

And please watch this video of a black pastor who supports Trump
http://www.westernjournalism.com/black-pastor-supporting-trump-calls-clinton-kkk-ad-repulsive

Specifically, the part starting at 2:10 is the best... I was taken aback by that as I did not expect that. Interesting to see that massive crowd has blacks, Latinos, even East Asian origin Americans.

OK, I just realized the video is from when he spoke at the GOP convention. Anyway, does this black pastor really believe in what he saying there? I find it bizarre that he paints Trump as some humanist who cares for all lives.

8/26/2016 6:42:37 PM

All of Trump's surrogates are now calling the wall a virtual one.

I think basically his whole campaign is one elaborate troll of Ann Coulter.

(How long until his supporters flip and say it was always only a metaphor?)

[Edited on August 29, 2016 at 9:43 AM. Reason : X]

8/29/2016 9:40:58 AM

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"I think basically his whole campaign is one elaborate troll of Ann CoulterRepublicans."

8/29/2016 9:43:04 AM

I have a question about his wall.

A wall sounds great, and it makes for nice soundbites for simpletons. However walls can be scaled, and tunnels can be dug. I'm just curious, has he even elaborated as to what kind of wall he wants to build? I'm sure we all here can agree that a wall will be just a huge waste of money and will be nothing more than a symbolic gesture, but do his supporters not get that?

Any Trump supporters out there? Why do you want him to build a wall?

8/29/2016 3:58:30 PM

Are there even any self avowed Trump supporters here other than JCE and B4C?

8/29/2016 4:17:37 PM

it's not his wall it's our wall. the wall was planned and passed along with a lot of other things 10 years ago but was not funded back in 2008 when Congress came to a screeching halt. Trumps only new part is to make Mexico pay for it.

8/29/2016 6:30:55 PM

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"I'm just curious, has he even elaborated as to what kind of wall he wants to build?"

Two posts up man

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"All of Trump's surrogates are now calling the wall a virtual one."

It's obviously bullshit. It was obviously bullshit when he said, it was further obviously bullshit when he said the height just doubled with a wry smile.

8/29/2016 6:36:57 PM

I guess trump supporters are pretty dumb but I thought it was pretty obvious he was talking about the same wall all along. the clinton/obama/bush "fence" from 06

8/29/2016 6:40:33 PM

You know and I know that he wasn't talking about a virtual wall when he started all this wall talk. Come on man. I realize you try to find anything you can in my posts to call dumb, but that's weak even for you.

8/29/2016 7:07:58 PM

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"You know and I know that he wasn't talking about a virtual wall when he started all this wall talk."

Dude. It's all bullshit, as I noted. He wasn't talking about any actual wall. It's always been bullshit. That's what makes your questions about technical specifications so dumb. It's always been bullshit, which this latest indicator of the wall being "virtual" continues to illuminate.

[Edited on August 29, 2016 at 7:40 PM. Reason : ^ except I don't have to try. the dumb shines through, and I'm far from the only one pointing it out]

8/29/2016 7:39:06 PM

Regarding The Wall: I incidentally happened to catch a bit of Donald Trump on Sean Hannity's show one night last week. Trump was asked how high the wall would be. Someone (I don't think it was Trump, but I may be wrong) suggested a height of around 30 or 35 feet. Trump agreed this would be an appropriate height.

However, on that same damn show, another speaker mentioned that a lot (maybe even a majority? Not sure) of current illegal immigrants actually entered the country LEGALLY and have simply overstayed their visas.

I was hoping someone would call Trump out on this, pointing out "Your wall ain't gonna do shit to stop that". However, no one did (of course, this was Hannity's show, remember).

8/29/2016 8:56:51 PM

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"[109th Congress Public Law 367] [From the U.S. Government Printing Office] [DOCID: f:publ367.109] [[Page 2637]] SECURE FENCE ACT OF 2006 [[Page 120 STAT. 2638]] Public Law 109-367 109th Congress An Act To establish operational control over the international land and maritime borders of the United States. <<NOTE: Oct. 26, 2006 - [H.R. 6061]>> Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress <<NOTE: Secure Fence Act of 2006.>> assembled, SECTION 1. <<NOTE: 8 USC 1101 note.>> SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the ``Secure Fence Act of 2006''. SEC. 2. <<NOTE: 8 USC 1701 note.>> ACHIEVING OPERATIONAL CONTROL ON THE BORDER. (a) <<NOTE: Deadline.>> In General.--Not later than 18 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall take all actions the Secretary determines necessary and appropriate to achieve and maintain operational control over the entire international land and maritime borders of the United States, to include the following-- (1) systematic surveillance of the international land and maritime borders of the United States through more effective use of personnel and technology, such as unmanned aerial vehicles, ground-based sensors, satellites, radar coverage, and cameras; and (2) physical infrastructure enhancements to prevent unlawful entry by aliens into the United States and facilitate access to the international land and maritime borders by United States Customs and Border Protection, such as additional checkpoints, all weather access roads, and vehicle barriers. (b) Operational Control Defined.--In this section, the term ``operational control'' means the prevention of all unlawful entries into the United States, including entries by terrorists, other unlawful aliens, instruments of terrorism, narcotics, and other contraband. (c) Report.--Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act and annually thereafter, the Secretary shall submit to Congress a report on the progress made toward achieving and maintaining operational control over the entire international land and maritime borders of the United States in accordance with this section. SEC. 3. CONSTRUCTION OF FENCING AND SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS IN BORDER AREA FROM PACIFIC OCEAN TO GULF OF MEXICO. Section 102(b) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (Public Law 104-208; 8 U.S.C. 1103 note) is amended-- [[Page 120 STAT. 2639]] (1) in the subsection heading by striking ``Near San Diego, California''; and (2) by amending paragraph (1) to read as follows: ``(1) Security features.-- ``(A) Reinforced fencing.--In carrying out subsection (a), the Secretary of Homeland Security shall provide for least 2 layers of reinforced fencing, the installation of additional physical barriers, roads, lighting, cameras, and sensors-- ``(i) extending from 10 miles west of the Tecate, California, port of entry to 10 miles east of the Tecate, California, port of entry; ``(ii) extending from 10 miles west of the Calexico, California, port of entry to 5 miles east of the Douglas, Arizona, port of entry; ``(iii) extending from 5 miles west of the Columbus, New Mexico, port of entry to 10 miles east of El Paso, Texas; ``(iv) extending from 5 miles northwest of the Del Rio, Texas, port of entry to 5 miles southeast of the Eagle Pass, Texas, port of entry; and ``(v) extending 15 miles northwest of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry to the Brownsville, Texas, port of entry. ``(B) Priority areas.-- With <<NOTE: Deadlines.>> respect to the border described-- ``(i) in subparagraph (A)(ii), the Secretary shall ensure that an interlocking surveillance camera system is installed along such area by May 30, 2007, and that fence construction is completed by May 30, 2008; and ``(ii) in subparagraph (A)(v), the Secretary shall ensure that fence construction from 15 miles northwest of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry to 15 southeast of the Laredo, Texas, port of entry is completed by December 31, 2008. `(C) Exception.--If the topography of a specific area has an elevation grade that exceeds 10 percent, the Secretary may use other means to secure such area, including the use of surveillance and barrier tools.''. SEC. 4. NORTHERN BORDER STUDY. (a) In General.--The Secretary of Homeland Security shall conduct a study on the feasibility of a state of-the-art infrastructure security system along the northern international land and maritime border of the United States and shall include in the study-- (1) the necessity of implementing such a system; (2) the feasibility of implementing such a system; and (3) the economic impact implementing such a system will have along the northern border. (b) Report.--Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate a report that contains the results of the study conducted under subsection (a). [[Page 120 STAT. 2640]] SEC. 5. EVALUATION AND REPORT RELATING TO CUSTOMS AUTHORITY TO STOP CERTAIN FLEEING VEHICLES. (a) Evaluation.--Not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall-- (1) evaluate the authority of personnel of United States Customs and Border Protection to stop vehicles that enter the United States illegally and refuse to stop when ordered to do so by such personnel, compare such Customs authority with the authority of the Coast Guard to stop vessels under section 637 of title 14, United States Code, and make an assessment as to whether such Customs authority should be expanded; (2) review the equipment and technology available to United States Customs and Border Protection personnel to stop vehicles described in paragraph (1) and make an assessment as to whether or not better equipment or technology is available or should be developed; and (3) evaluate the training provided to United States Customs and Border Protection personnel to stop vehicles described in paragraph (1). (b) Report.--Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall submit to the Committee on Homeland Security of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs of the Senate a report that contains the results of the evaluation conducted under subsection (a). Approved October 26, 2006."

"Secure fence" is great but a wall is "omg the craziest thing ever"

8/29/2016 9:08:32 PM

So 5 sections of 2 layer fence at points of entry is the same as a hypothetical/virtual/joking/sarcastically stated/talking point thousand+ mile long border wall?

We should hear more mentions of the imaginary/super serious wall on Wednesday with Trump making a "detailed" immigration "policy" speech with no details and promises of "more details to come".

8/29/2016 9:42:35 PM

ScubaSteve got Earled

8/29/2016 9:43:26 PM

Crazy how people who claim to be so anti-Trump are consistently defending him ITT.

8/29/2016 10:05:41 PM

Although it may seem like a wild notion to democrats, it is actually possible to disagree with a politician without making up and or pushing false statements about them.

8/29/2016 11:54:49 PM

How many of the mass panics over imagined gunfire (JFK, LAX, Crabtree) are a result of Trump's insistence that radical Islams are here to kill us because Obama?

8/30/2016 8:57:00 AM

That might be part of it, but you can't exclude every other high-profile gun related death in this country over the past 5 years or so that has generally heightened our sensitivity to the subject.

I mean a dude walks into a nightclub, guns down 50 people, and you're blaming Trump's insistence on terror being a real threat as to the reason people freak out over something that sounds like gunfire? That kinda sounds like a straw-man to me.

And I'm sorry if I "normalized" Trump here. That's why I feel like I have to begin every post with "I can't stand the man."

8/30/2016 9:24:55 AM

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"it is actually possible to disagree with a politician without making up and or pushing false statements about them."

so why push the false statement that clintona and obama support Trump's wall?

8/30/2016 9:25:31 AM

^^ I can't recall any instances when people fled airports after hearing a loud noise and it's just happened twice in two weeks. That's because someone shot up a gay nightclub almost three months ago?

The Crabtree one was especially awesome because the cops detained an armed dude in camo who said he was there to "get some".

8/30/2016 9:37:59 AM

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"That's because someone shot up a gay nightclub almost three months ago?"

Not singularly. It's because of mass shootings in general, not Trump

[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 10:15 AM. Reason : V as if the locale matters, but if you must: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/A-Recent-History-of-Airport-Shootings-230253311.html ]

8/30/2016 9:57:35 AM

All those tragic airport shootings.

8/30/2016 9:58:39 AM

Clearly we're all still traumatized by the shooting at the El Al counter at LAX in 2002, the last time more than one person was killed at the airport. Aside from that your link shows two homicides in airports in the past 15 years.

8/30/2016 10:34:16 AM

Except that someone just didn't shoot up a nightclub. Someone killed 50 people with guns in a public area. It could be any public area. People are getting weary of this shit, and it is showing in our general psyche.

Go into any Target and pop a couple of balloons, and I guarantee you you'll make the news.

8/30/2016 10:41:34 AM

Haven't there been a couple terrorist attacks at airports recently (overseas though)?

8/30/2016 10:50:29 AM

I push the notion that clinton and obama support the border fence because they voted for the border fence act.

8/30/2016 10:51:10 AM

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"It could be any public area. People are getting weary of this shit, and it is showing in our general psyche."

Obviously. Like this has anything to do with airports

8/30/2016 11:09:46 AM

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"border fence act."

which is nothing like trump's wall. so why push false statements?

8/30/2016 11:35:07 AM

[Edited on August 30, 2016 at 12:03 PM. Reason : woops, E-man post, disregard]

8/30/2016 12:03:02 PM

^ close call!

8/30/2016 2:01:34 PM

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"Haven't there been a couple terrorist attacks at airports recently (overseas though)?"

Belgium and Turkey, IIRC.

8/30/2016 2:03:39 PM

http://nydn.us/2bY0lkJ

Is this bad? This seems bad.

8/30/2016 2:32:11 PM

Naw

8/30/2016 2:41:29 PM

A politician thats a hypocrite... why I never!

8/30/2016 2:56:22 PM

Dammmmn, that should be easy to prove if true too.

8/30/2016 3:03:32 PM

Trump using his Trumpisms to add bombast to the same old policies we've seen all along doesn't make them different. A double fence is a lot like a wall, it doesn't really matter the point is that they want to build a physical boundary to help secure our border.

I also laugh when democrats say trump is scary because he will try to deport people because millions have been deported under obama. Are we securing the border or not? Are we deporting people or not? Which is it?

Trump says he will "bomb the shit out of isis" without regard for hurting their families or civilians. Meanwhile, thats exactly what Obama is doing and what Hill will certainly continue. Are we bombing isis or not?

I guess the choice is that you want people to build the wall and deport illegals while speaking politely about them. You want speeches about peace while hospitals are bombed behind the scenes.

The difference is you are looking solely at rhetoric and I am looking solely at results. Does that make me a troll or does it bring you so far out of your comfort zone that you rather not respond?

8/30/2016 3:43:45 PM

The article read like a normal anti-Trump article with a Left-lean (while still trying to feign a modicum of neutrality), but then I got to the last line:

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"Both she and her hateful husband's campaign, however, have refused to release any supporting documentation."

Damn.

8/30/2016 3:44:46 PM

the NY Daily News is a tabloid

8/30/2016 4:11:25 PM

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"I also laugh when democrats say trump is scary because he will try to deport people because millions have been deported under obama. Are we securing the border or not? Are we deporting people or not? Which is it?"

it's like you keep wanting to prove to us you are a whole lot more stupid than we already think you are. which already is a lot. like a lot a lot.

8/30/2016 4:30:42 PM