The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I don't always post memes, but when I do, its a timely tribute.
9/4/2016 12:20:57 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
As the world super power and one of the nations that takes more resources than our share, it actually is our duty to save the world. With great power comes great responsibility.
What do you think would happen if the rest of the world saw us closing in while at still continue to vacuum up resources and really, have the world's biggest military by far, and don't care about anyone else?
We'd lose all leverage and credibly we have and become a target for military and economic intervention. It's pure fantastical delusion to think we can actively bully the rest of the world by not helping when we can and think this will magically work out. 9/4/2016 12:25:10 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me. I lift my lamp beside the golden door."" |
9/4/2016 12:29:23 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
^^That is the most artful neo-liberal post i've ever seen. 9/4/2016 12:33:09 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As the world super power and one of the nations that takes more resources than our share, it actually is our duty to save the world. With great power comes great responsibility.
What do you think would happen if the rest of the world saw us closing in while at still continue to vacuum up resources and really, have the world's biggest military by far, and don't care about anyone else?
We'd lose all leverage and credibly we have and become a target for military and economic intervention. It's pure fantastical delusion to think we can actively bully the rest of the world by not helping when we can and think this will magically work out." |
I'm cool with helping places like Haiti and Japan after natural disasters, but I am not cool with letting in the masses, or just not caring if they come here illegally. It would be nice if the next president would keep us out of stupid wars too.9/4/2016 1:52:28 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but I am not cool with letting in the masses, or just not caring if they come here illegally" |
bet you can't support your argument with anything based in reality9/4/2016 2:13:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ it's the near opposite of neoliberal. It doesn't prescribe, and I wouldn't recommend, military intervention, but we've spent a century involving ourselves in global politics in very serpentine ways. We can't simultaneously benefit from these interventions then try to assert "were not the worlds savior".
We could recuse ourselves from world affairs, pull back our military bases and deployments, cancel aide agreements and other diplomatic agreements and try to be a "regular" country, then this would make sense. But we can't complain if Russia invades U.K., or Iran seizes control of Iraq, or of gadaffi wants to massacre his opposition. We can't get mad if Saudi Arabia cuts a deal with china that increase our gas prices or if china buys up all the steel and we have no economic means of challenging this.
It's entirely possible for the country to exist stably this way, but I somehow doubt most living Americans would be fine with that. And it wouldn't take much for another country to step up and take that role. 9/4/2016 3:58:13 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I wish I could post what Trump said on the Iraq-Iran war just now but it literally sounds like a three year old trying to explain history. Also casually mentioned Kurdish genocide.
Here is an excerpt. And I quote: "They would fight fight fight. And then Saddam Hussein would do the gas. And somebody else would do something else. And they'd rest." 9/6/2016 4:14:33 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
the Republican nominee for President of the United States of America 9/6/2016 5:05:58 PM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^^ https://youtu.be/urv4S-M-8cg 9/6/2016 5:16:32 PM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
Donald Trump funneling campaign donations into expensive Trump-owned properties almost makes me feel sorry for his campaign contributors. 9/6/2016 7:14:54 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
something something fools and their money....... 9/7/2016 9:38:45 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
^^^That is awesome. 9/7/2016 11:04:57 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Trump's plan is to beef up military spending? Am I missing something or does that go against pretty much everything he has been talking about for the last 1.5 years? He had a position on his website this morning in favor of the military sequestration but his speech today calls for ending it. 9/7/2016 11:12:53 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
In all fairness, pretty good speech. If you actually believe he means what he says. Some obvious lies about Clinton in there as always and some projection but policy wise it's ok (aside from how to pay for everything).
Problem is, it was a scathing indictment of Clinton and... his own views in the past. It's just hard to believe he means anything he says given his morphing views from day to day.
[Edited on September 7, 2016 at 12:30 PM. Reason : Z] 9/7/2016 12:29:31 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
lol what a fucking assclown. reading body language from CIA briefers. Putin 82% approval. bald faced lies about iraq war support.
you're a fucking idiot if you vote for this shithead. period. end of story.
[Edited on September 7, 2016 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .] 9/7/2016 10:09:07 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Yep, further cements my vote for Gary Johnson at this point. 9/8/2016 7:05:34 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Boy did you pick the wrong morning for that affirmation.... 9/8/2016 10:10:36 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
At this point Trump is just here for the lols to make the final few months fun tv to watch to see just what dumb things he can say. There is zero chance he wins unless there are a shit ton of people out there who are gonna pull the whole I would never vote for Trump, votes for Trump, then tells people they voted for Clinton or Johnson or Mickey Mouse. I imagine there are plenty of those people out there but not nearly enough to come even remotely close. He had a small brief window after the conventions where he could have found a way to stop being a moron and decide to act like a semi normal person and could have rode some momentum into a chance but that vanished very quickly. 9/8/2016 10:29:22 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
^^ LOL isn't that the truth! "What is Aleppo?" - Gary Johnson 9/8/2016 10:35:12 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ lol 9/8/2016 10:47:56 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So we going to comment on Trump's obvious lies about his Intel briefing and that one of the advisers he brought were combative?
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/u-s-official-donald-trump-s-body-language-claim-doesn-n644856
[Edited on September 8, 2016 at 1:38 PM. Reason : What a weird guy] 9/8/2016 1:37:30 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Trump's DC policy staff quit after not getting paid. 9/9/2016 2:16:31 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Friend of the gays appears to be speaking at a virulently anti-gay event today.
Values Voters Summit has to be the biggest joke of a name ever.. 9/9/2016 3:19:43 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Why is it significant that the libertarian candidate doesn't know the important city of a country he doesnt want us involved in? 9/9/2016 6:07:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Not that any Trump supporter or independent cares about anything but emails but the Trump 9/11 story is pretty damn awful. What a con man. 9/10/2016 8:43:44 PM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump's plan is to beef up military spending? Am I missing something or does that go against pretty much everything he has been talking about for the last 1.5 years? He had a position on his website this morning in favor of the military sequestration but his speech today calls for ending it." |
I'm pretty sure he has been pro military the whole way along with cutting taxes, dealing with immigration, and ending Obamacare. But yeah, I too am interested in seeing how he actually plans to pay for everything. He doesn't seem to be a better economist than any of the others.
Quote : | "Yep, further cements my vote for Gary Johnson at this point." |
I'm not too impressed with him either. The video he posted on his twitter page didn't get me overly excited about voting for him.9/11/2016 5:29:54 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus, not one response about his 9/11 money fraud or his lying about his charity donations?
The bar really is quite a bit lower for this guy, isn't it? 9/11/2016 5:59:03 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Not much to say really. He's a horrible human being, most of us already knows this. Frankly, Hillary was being generous saying "half". Every single person supporting or planning on voting for him is deplorable. 9/11/2016 6:01:53 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Nah, there's a large group of dumb, disaffected people who will vote for him. Those people aren't deplorable, just gullible and desperate for someone promising to protect them. 9/11/2016 6:13:44 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottyLiterati/status/774895778817073152 9/11/2016 6:25:15 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yes. I call them misguided but it's wrong to classify them as bad people. And I actually cut some slack for those who are GOP and can't stand Clinton as well. I get that. Don't agree, but get.
Of course, a huge part of his support or as they were described. 9/11/2016 6:52:10 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Those people are in Hillary's other basket:
Quote : | "You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic -- you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people -- now 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks -- they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America."
But the other basket -- and I know this because I see friends from all over America here -- I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas -- as well as, you know, New York and California -- but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and they're just desperate for change. It doesn't really even matter where it comes from. They don't buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They won't wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroin, feel like they're in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well." | ]9/11/2016 6:59:02 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, no. I'm not gonna draw much of a distinction between being racist or enabling racists. Every single Trump supporter is one or the other, whether they realize it or not.
[Edited on September 11, 2016 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .] 9/11/2016 7:01:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Ergo, if you don't love Hillary, you're a racist. 9/11/2016 7:50:25 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
^^Hack 9/11/2016 9:16:43 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
do you deny that his candidacy has empowered racists? 9/11/2016 9:28:27 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Shrike is the definition of a hack. He disagreed with a quote dtownral posted until he later said it was something Hillary said and then changed his mind and said he agreed with it. 9/11/2016 9:28:36 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I've got so many people who hang on my every post now, maybe I should start tweeting. @ShrikePosts 9/11/2016 9:31:49 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Well when you completely change your opinion of a quote after finding out that it was said by Hillary it kinda sticks out. Hack. 9/11/2016 9:38:44 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
I honestly don't know what you're talking about but I won't deny it since I do consider the source of a quote as important to my opinion of it. You don't? 9/11/2016 9:43:26 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
You either agree with the content or you don't 9/11/2016 9:49:04 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
So I shouldn't care whether or not the source of a quote was a random forum poster, or a seasoned political professional with decades of experience running campaigns? And if I do, that makes me a hack? K. 9/11/2016 9:59:05 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
I guess the few African Americans that support Trump are fueling hatred for their own race then. 9/11/2016 11:08:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
that's deep, man
there's a cottage industry of black people who shit on other black people who appear on conservative outlets, Fox News being the happiest to bring them on
[Edited on September 12, 2016 at 1:06 AM. Reason : .] 9/12/2016 12:55:01 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump on CNBC says he took a physical last week and will announce results this week: "I'll be handing out a paper with very large numbers."" |
Two things: 1) this is smart politically. Must be Conway's influence because it's the only smart thing he's done so far this general; and 2) what numbers are there in a physical that are better higher? I honestly can't think of any. He's an idiot.
[Edited on September 12, 2016 at 8:24 AM. Reason : Lol he is attacking Yellen this morning]9/12/2016 8:20:29 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Dick size. 9/12/2016 8:29:01 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
hand measurements
9/12/2016 8:46:38 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
VO2 Max? Although I don't know if that's a real clinical measurement or something made up by crossfit..... 9/12/2016 9:19:37 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Trump's son and a surrogate shared a white nationalist/alt-right meme: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-junior-roger-stone-alt-right-pepe-meme 9/12/2016 10:22:53 AM |