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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
You guys still happy about the coup? 9/19/2013 10:12:01 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
You know what's really ironic? The cases against Mubarak and Morsi are going on at the same time... People took down Mubarak and replaced him with Morsi, then they took him down and replaced him with the military, and now they are both in court.
Just to see how politically motivated the charges against Morsi are, consider this: one of the cases against him is the death of some protestors who were killed AFTER they FIREBOMBED the Muslim brotherhood headquarters
So yeah, people can firebomb you but you will be charged with murder when you defend yourself.
And the most disgusting thing... who will stand trial for the killings of 1,000 - 2,000 Muslim brotherhood supporters in the days after the coup? Mursi is on trial for the deaths of a dozen or so people, but never mind that 1,000+ of his supporters were killed in cold blood by the army.
I am no fan of the Muslim brotherhood, but he was elected by the majority. If there were any irregularities in his rule or violations of the constitution, he should have been impeached through a legal process. 9/19/2013 11:45:30 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a fan of this coup at all. Honestly, I think Egypt should have let the Muslim Brotherhood stay in power for a while; eventually, they would have either been forced to moderate their position to maintain power, slide into a one party dictatorship that better justified a coup, or would pretty much have collapsed in the next election as Egypt's economy spiraled down the toilet. The last one in particular would have been the best scenario because then you discredit their government in a fair and open manner, and their supporters would have no one to blame but themselves. Instead, now you've disenfranchised a third to a half of that country who will take up arms. This will not end well. 9/19/2013 1:36:12 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Aaaaaand we come back full circle in Egypt.... Muslim Brotherhood effectively banned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24208933 9/23/2013 4:09:55 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
So much for the country that gave birth to the Arab Spring.
Make a hip hop song insulting the police and go to jail for 6 months.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24290964 9/26/2013 3:25:28 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Lol
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/01/egypt-army-chief-considers-presidential-bid-2014111175157830704.html
Mubarak II coming! 1/11/2014 9:27:25 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Exclusive: With Muslim Brotherhood crushed, Egypt sets sights on Hamas
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/14/us-egypt-gaza-idUSBREA0D09D20140114 1/14/2014 9:42:47 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3364289/Death-extremism-blooming-blame-Tunisian-council-worker-sparked-Arab-Spring-uprising-wishes-never-arrest-led-death-destruction-terror.html
Quote : | "'Death everywhere and extremism blooming... I blame myself': Tunisian council worker who 'sparked Arab Spring' uprising wishes she never made the 'arrest' that led to death, destruction and terror
- Council inspector Faida Hamdy blames herself for sparking the uprisings - A vegetable stall owner set himself on fire after she confiscated his cart - His death snowballed into huge protests, spilled into other Arab nations - It led to governments being toppled, rise of terror and the migrant crisis
The woman who sparked a Tunisian riot that led to the world changing 'Arab Spring' wishes she had never made the arrest that led to the death, destruction and terror that followed.
Five years ago, a Tunisian man set himself on fire after council inspector Faida Hamdy confiscated his vegetable cart.
When he died weeks later, dozens of Arab men began self immolating also. Their actions snowballed into country wide protests which toppled the regime and eventually spilled over to other Arab nations.
Speaking of the death and destruction caused by civil wars, the migrant crisis and the rise of terror groups like the barbaric ISIS, Faida said: 'I blame myself.'
As a direct result of the Arab Spring, which Faida charges herself as starting, Iraq and Syria have been laid to waste, large parts of Libya are lawless and terror groups are expanding in the Middle East.
'Sometimes I wish I'd never done it... I feel responsible for everything,' Faida told The Telegraph.
She added: 'When I look at the region and my country, I regret it all. Death everywhere and extremism blooming and killing beautiful souls.'
'I made history since I was the one who was there and my action contributed to it but look at us now. Meanwhile, Tunisians are suffering as always.'
Mohammed Bouazizi, the man whose stall she confiscated, became the face of the Tunisian uprising. Faida meanwhile was arrested when the protests began.
When she was eventually released and acquitted of all charges but by then, Tunisia's President Zine el-Abedine Ben Ali has been deposed and the Arab Spring had moved on to Egypt, Libya and Syria.
Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak was the next to go, in February 2011, after more than two weeks of protests in Cairo's iconic Tahrir Square.
Libya's leader Muammar Gaddafi went the same year, after the protests in his country descended into a brutal civil war. He was shot dead in October.
In comparison, Tunisia, which has held two general elections since the uprisings, has been a relative success.
The sister of Bouazizi, whose death may have sparked the seismic events that have reshaped the Middle East, believes his death was hijacked for political gain.
She told the Telegraph: 'His death is destiny and I accept it.
'But if he were here he would be the first in the street to ask for more dignity.
'My brother created something that greedy people are trying to destroy in the region.
My brother is a lover of life and he would have rejected both the stupid politicians and death-loving extremists. My brother died for dignity not for wealth or an ideology.'" |
He was a computer science graduate, but due to lack of jobs he was selling vegetables on a street cart.
She confiscated his cart, slapped him, and spat in his face, all in public.
He set himself on fire and died.
The rest is history [and current news].
Damn... talk about the butterfly effect--insane
[Edited on December 20, 2015 at 2:21 AM. Reason : ]12/20/2015 2:09:33 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
More details, and a good read:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/tunisia/12054657/I-started-the-Arab-Spring.-Now-death-is-everywhere-and-extremism-blooming.html
(Plus a nice succinct pictorial timeline of the major events since then)
Quote : | "Subsequent studies found that self-immolation had already become a common act in Tunisia, accounting already for 15 per cent of all burns cases in Tunis hospitals. Within six months, more than 100 Tunisians had followed suit, and scores more around the Arab world, from Morocco to Saudi Arabia and Iraq, had also set themselves on fire." |
Man, that's crazy. I can never fathom the level of desperation one needs to reach to resort to self-immolation.
BTW, Dec. 17 was the 5th anniversary.
Quote : | "Zine El Abidine Ben Ali flees the country he had ruled for 24 years after senior generals tell him his position is untenable. His hated wife, Leila Trabelsi, escapes too – allegedly taking much of the central bank's gold reserves with her." |
12/20/2015 3:08:29 AM |
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