Congrats!

8/20/2007 5:03:11 PM

that trivia game has ALOT of bugs, it would continually give me the wrong answers for the question, like it would ask me a question about what hydrophilic meant then give me some dudes names as the answers and stuff.

8/20/2007 6:14:21 PM

^^ !! sweet - good way to start page 41

[Edited on August 20, 2007 at 10:03 PM. Reason : asdf]

8/20/2007 10:02:19 PM

^^ yeah that thing is all messed up

8/20/2007 10:13:27 PM

gg 30thAnnZ on the increased production! Its looking like you'll level out at around 2500-3000ppd which is a huge help!

8/21/2007 1:36:49 PM

thanks. i'm still adding a few more clients. i'm up to 33 at the moment and i think i'll probably top out for now around 38 or so...

getting a dual core machine in in a few days and i'll get that one going too

8/21/2007 3:00:47 PM

^awesome keep it up

wow, 30+ single core = 3000ppd
2 dual core C2D's = 3000ppd

something's not right with the point scheme

[Edited on August 21, 2007 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .]

8/21/2007 3:13:17 PM

it should go higher than 3000

right now only 23 clients have reported in

i've got 2 or 3 that are REAL SLOW

and the rest i've added since yesterday, so they should be reporting in by tomorrow. most are on the 2 days per work unit schedule

8/21/2007 3:44:58 PM

Funny thing is you will have ~38 running smooth and one you have to baby sit. I am just assuming the extra points SMP make is kinda baby sitting payment.

8/21/2007 5:30:58 PM

Quote :

"I am just assuming the extra points SMP make is kinda baby sitting payment"

haha

8/21/2007 6:52:03 PM

^^ i'm running a smp at home and don't have to babysit...and i assume scanzero doesnt have to babysit all his smp clients either. just clean install again of you're having problems. i'm sure the smp will become more stable when it makes it out of beta (whenever that is to be)

8/21/2007 9:52:37 PM

^ I baby sit....every workday morning I check the smp clients (I think I have 11 smp clients running). I never touch normal ones unless I'm logging into the machine for another reason. So I have ssh sessions to all the machines tailing logs and Fahmon works well enough for tracking windows smp clients. If a WU is bad/hung...I restart them.

^^^ what he said

[Edited on August 22, 2007 at 11:47 AM. Reason : asdfasdf]

8/22/2007 11:46:20 AM

What virus scanner are your running? I find if I pause/snooze it, I have decent results starting. I am using ezarmor on the computer that has the problem.

That doesn't mean that I am not hanging later though. I have had mine hang at 99, then I jump in to save the day, and it has expired. It is frustrating, I think I would be getting much more points if it ran correctly. Either way it is better than the regular client point wise. If I get one smp every two weeks that is worth as much as the old client running the entire two weeks.

8/22/2007 1:22:10 PM

Only SAV on the windows machines, none on the linux machines. The thing I see alot is 1 core abnormally terminating, leaving 3 remaining. So once I stop and restart everything picks back up before that 1 core abnormally terminated.

Some of the work units have interesting stats they push out at the end. We'll see how this pastes into the post:

[18:13:14] Completed 5000000 out of 5000000 steps  (100 percent)
[18:13:14] Writing final coordinates.



        M E G A - F L O P S   A C C O U N T I N G

        Parallel run - timing based on wallclock.
   RF=Reaction-Field  FE=Free Energy  SCFE=Soft-Core/Free Energy
   T=Tabulated        W3=SPC/TIP3p    W4=TIP4p (single or pairs)
   NF=No Forces

 Computing:                        M-Number         M-Flops  % of Flops
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 RF Coul                       62647.625572  2067371.643876     0.8
 RF Coul [W3]                    205.262742    20115.748716     0.0
 RF Coul + VdW(T)             110539.614386  7185074.935090     3.0
 RF Coul + VdW(T) [W3]         31120.829130  4045707.786900     1.7
 RF Coul + VdW(T) [W3-W3]     618171.184509 197814779.042880    81.3
 Outer nonbonded loop         177990.022095  1779900.220950     0.7
 1,4 nonbonded interactions     6280.719480   565264.753200     0.2
 NS-Pairs                     279902.727970  5877957.287370     2.4
 Reset In Box                   8254.689696    74292.207264     0.0
 Shift-X                      330186.395520  1981118.373120     0.8
 CG-CoM                         2910.243358    84397.057382     0.0
 Sum Forces                   247639.796640   247639.796640     0.1
 Bonds                          1221.251010    52513.793430     0.0
 Angles                         4382.380325   714327.992975     0.3
 Propers                         490.161970   112247.091130     0.0
 RB-Dihedrals                   5059.468470  1249688.712090     0.5
 Virial                        82995.221700  1493913.990600     0.6
 Ext.ens. Update               82546.598880  4457516.339520     1.8
 Stop-CM                        8254.649952    82546.499520     0.0
 Calc-Ekin                     82546.618752  2228758.706304     0.9
 Shake                          2772.590732    83177.721960     0.0
 Constraint-V                  82546.598880   495279.593280     0.2
 Shake-Init                     1200.481435    12004.814350     0.0
 Constraint-Vir                81354.425275  1952506.206600     0.8
 Settle                        26717.981280  8629907.953440     3.5
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
 Total                                      243308008.268587   100.0
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

               NODE (s)   Real (s)      (%)
       Time:  80094.000  80094.000    100.0
                       22h14:54
               (Mnbf/s)   (GFlops)   (ns/day)  (hour/ns)
Performance:     10.271      3.038     10.787      2.225
[18:13:14] Past main M.D. loop
[18:13:14] Will end MPI now
[18:14:14]
[18:14:14] Finished Work Unit:
[18:14:14] - Reading up to 477048 from "work/wudata_01.arc": Read 477048
[18:14:14] - Reading up to 14217912 from "work/wudata_01.xtc": Read 14217912
[18:14:14] goefile size: 0
[18:14:14] logfile size: 145207
[18:14:14] Leaving Run
[18:14:15] - Writing 15041131 bytes of core data to disk...
[18:14:15]   ... Done.
[18:14:40] - Shutting down core
[18:14:40]
[18:14:40] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FINISHED_UNIT
[0]0:Return code = 100
[0]1:Return code = 0, signaled with Quit
[0]2:Return code = 0, signaled with Quit
[0]3:Return code = 0, signaled with Quit
      Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
       Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
             Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
            check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.

        This inclusion of Gromacs code in the Folding@Home Core is under
        a special license (see http://folding.stanford.edu/gromacs.html)
         specially granted to Stanford by the copyright holders. If you
          are interested in using Gromacs, visit http://www.gromacs.org where
                you can download a free version of Gromacs under
         the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL) as published
       by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License,
                     or (at your option) any later version.

[18:14:52] CoreStatus = 64 (100)
[18:14:52] Sending work to server

8/22/2007 2:52:03 PM

anyone checked out the conquest chart lately? in the next 1.4 months, we'll move up 6 spots, and only down 1...so we're headed up the ladder pretty quickly as long as we can keep this momentum going. lets keep adding machines and shoot up the chart some. it'd be awesome to beat our previous high of 81!

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=59&p=1

8/23/2007 10:55:27 AM

I'm all for going above team rank 81!

Anyone want to take a stab at making a flyer for the campus? I made a real simple one as a PDF that I could take to kinkos, but thought someone might have better ideas than me....

http://thewolfweb.com/photo_photo.aspx?user=2930&photo=484851

Keep in mind it'll be a flyer (no need for crazy colors). But it would be nice to be short and sweet somehow to capture the person's attention.

WTB a Tech Talk subform only for folding posts This post has good info but its buried in all the pages.

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 11:34 AM. Reason : asdf]

8/23/2007 11:31:30 AM

^Good idea!
For P41


Support Cancer Research and the NCSU Wolfpack With Your Computer's Spare Time!

If you're like most people you've got a computer that spends a lot of time idling on a blank screen or running a cool screensaver. Did you know it's possible to directly support Cancer, Alzheimer's, and Cystic Fibrosis research using your computer's idle time? The Stanford University Folding@home project provides a small piece of software which uses your computer?s spare processing power to run simulations and help researchers understand these diseases.

The NCSU Wolfpack Folding@home team has been ranked as high as 81st in the world but we were recently knocked out of the Top 100. While our team has had
much success in the past, if we don't get some new computers and PS3s running soon we'll keep moving farther down the ladder

Got a PS3? PS3s currently provide over 60% of the processing power in the Folding@home network! Each PS3 that joins the NCSU Folding Team provides huge boost and brings us closer to getting back in the Top 100! If you have one watch the video below to see how easy it is to setup the client and help the NCSU Wolfpack Folding team.



Links:

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding_at_home

Official Stanford Folding@home Website
http://folding.stanford.edu/

NCSU Wolfpack Folding@home Website
http://www.fah.genejockeys.com

Wolfweb Thread
message_topic.aspx?topic=118820

NCSU Team Stats Page
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=

Folding Forums
http://forum.folding-community.org/forums.html

Monitor your client(s) with this program
http://fahmon.silent-blade.org/

Download The Client Here:
http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html We recommend using the "No-nonsense text-only" client for most computers. For multi-core systems, the SMP client will get you and the team far more points than the traditional client (but it doesn't start as a service, so you'll have to restart the client manually or automatically when your computer restarts). If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how.
If you have an ATI X1800 or X1900 series graphics card you can even run Folding@home on your graphics card (with great results).

Installation Instructions
Enter a Username
Enter Team [59] (thats the important part)
Launch automatically at machine startup, installing this as a service [yes]
Ask before fetching/sending [no]
Use internet explorer settings [no]
Use Proxy [no] (unless you want to use a proxy)
Allow receipt of work assignments and return of work results greater than 5MB [yes]
Change Advanced Options: [no]

The folding client will run in the background as a service at low priority and won't interfere with your work/fun or slow down your computer at all. And you can run as many PC and PS3 clients you want under your username to contribute to your points and to the team points. If you have any questions feel free to contact me or any other member of the team.

8/23/2007 12:38:18 PM

here's my take:

http://www.syprus.com/fah/GotFAH.pdf

8/23/2007 1:26:42 PM

someone want to start a facebook group for the NCSU Folding@home team? If so, fill it with info thats in that big post and be sure to link to both the genejockeys website and this thread. The important part is to lead people to the website or this thread for more info.

8/23/2007 1:47:01 PM

http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4745357318

8/23/2007 4:10:18 PM

PS3 Folding v1.2 is out now.
http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=8251

Quote :

"-- Support for Remote Play for PSP -- Now Folding@home can be remotely operated through PSP utilizing the Remote Play feature of the PS3 system. With this feature, PS3 users are able to view on their PSP the exact same Folding@home information that is viewable on their PS3, complete with the map of the world and the protein that their particular system is simulating. -- More Support for Additional Protein Simulations -- Additional computation cores are now supported allowing Folding@home for PS3 to support a wider range of protein-folding simulations which further enhances the science needed to be performed to research diseases such as Alzheimer's disease. -- Screensaver Mode -- A screensaver mode can now be activated via the Settings menu in the Folding@home application, allowing PS3 users to consume slightly less power and to increase performance of protein-folding simulations. -- Link to Project Description -- A link has been added to the Information menu in the Folding@home application allowing users to quickly obtain additional information about the specific research project they are currently contributing to. -- Protein Visualization Enhancements -- All visualization modes have been enhanced with improved shading, highlighting and focus effects, including: "Tapioca" displays the protein as a smooth surface with improved shading and depth; "Caviar" displays the protein as a smooth surface with defined edges; "Licorice" displays only the protein's bonds and "Backbone" which emphasizes specific sections of the protein that are of the most scientific interest to researchers. -- Advanced Participation Mode -- Advanced participation mode allows Stanford University to send simulations of varying computational lengths to PS3 users. Because the simulations in this mode can take significantly longer, Advanced Mode is only recommended for contributors who run Folding@home for at least eight hours per day."

I'm not sure what the screensaver mode does to improve performance.

[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 11:02 PM. Reason : link]

8/23/2007 10:57:23 PM

Here is a facebook app to show stats:
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t268059.html

8/23/2007 11:04:19 PM

added it, it's pretty sweet and good publicity, it adds this to your profile:

8/23/2007 11:18:48 PM

Nice Prospero, I'll definitely use yours

Btw, any reason why I cannot add the folding group in facebook? Join button is missing...

8/24/2007 12:21:29 AM

JW, but im sure this has already been asked prolly, but would it be possible to run F@H on the lab computers and stuff, i mean those just sit idle ALOT of the time. Or will the tech dept not allow it to be installed?

8/24/2007 12:50:34 AM

^^^ pretty cool application...only problem is it leads people to sign up for the facebook team instead of the NCSU team. wonder if the developer would share his code

^^ you should see the "Join This Group" link near the picture

^ i'm sure they wouldn't allow it to be installed...for various reasons.

8/24/2007 1:04:48 AM

^^no clue, it's a public open group, if you are still having issues you can PM me your email and i can invite you even though it's not required.

8/24/2007 1:12:48 AM

that sucks cuz even just loading F@H onto one computer lab into each building would give us a huge boost in points. now they just need to make a sparc version so we can run it on old sun servers

8/24/2007 1:19:27 AM

get this guys, i recently lost my PC2-8500 (1066mhz) memory and had to RMA it, at the time i was running 1 WU on SMP in about 22 hours.

i swapped it out with some PC2-5400 (667mhz) i had lying around. i OC'd it to 800mhz and it's STILL taking 8 hours longer, meaning instead of 22hours/WU it's now only doing 30hours/WU. big difference speed of ram and cpu have to do with folding. (my cpu is down to 2.4 instead of 3.0 as well due to FSB required to OC) that's like a 33% hit in performance, while the cpu probably had more to do with it, the speed of memory impacted at least 5-10% of the performance hit.

[Edited on August 24, 2007 at 1:27 AM. Reason : .]

8/24/2007 1:25:46 AM

bttt

8/26/2007 10:16:10 AM

Prospero, I sent you a PM. Hope your RAM issues work out, RMA can be a pita.

8/26/2007 12:18:56 PM

congrats on 97th place everyone!

lets keep adding more clients and keep it going!

8/28/2007 9:08:01 AM

Sorry all, I had to recreate the group so it's set to Global Network. Facebook would not let me change the network from NCSU to global.

Please join it here:
http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5012521644

8/29/2007 6:48:54 PM

Ty prospero, I can now join

8/29/2007 10:16:42 PM

we be hurtin

8/31/2007 8:06:43 PM

We posted over a million points last month for the first time. Good work.

Quote :

"08.07 1,082,710 2,398 "

9/1/2007 7:50:26 AM

If you guys haven't joined the faceboook group, do so here: http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5012521644
be sure to invite your friends too!

new PS3 client has been released

9/5/2007 12:04:20 PM

has anyone done flyers?

i'd donate to the copy costs if someone's going to do it?

9/5/2007 12:09:49 PM

^ its on my to-do list

9/6/2007 11:30:13 AM

Is there a client for this that will run under BOINC

9/6/2007 11:38:40 AM

My production has gone up since I got the new PS3 client. It might have something to do with Advanced WUs.

9/6/2007 12:03:26 PM

I started doing the advanced WU's on the PS3 update, but it seemed like my production went WAY dawn so I switched back to standard WU's. Maybe I should switch back.

9/6/2007 12:14:42 PM

^ yeah i'd say give it a chance...maybe the first wu isn't working right, i bet the points will go up for the new version. if you want to look into it, here's some good info: http://forum.folding-community.org/forum55,ps3-client.html

9/6/2007 1:08:58 PM

YEEHAW...just hit 50,000 points!

9/6/2007 2:18:19 PM

Are there any optimized client builds? Like say for a dual p4 xeon box?

9/6/2007 2:26:14 PM

the SMP client was written for multi-core systems, and will run on any multi-core proc...usually with great results. the smp clients are the top performing client currently, and you can run it on Linux, Mac or Windows systems. there aren't any clients that i know of that are custom build for different procs though...only single core vs multi core for the PCs.

http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html

9/6/2007 2:59:29 PM

Unless im missing something the SMP one doesn't run properly as a service.

9/6/2007 3:23:29 PM

GO GO GO FOLD FOLD FOLD

9/6/2007 3:30:38 PM

^^ i'm not sure about the service thing. i created a shortcut to fah.exe, and put the shortcut in my startup directory. then i used the program called tray-it to minimize the folding window to my system tray.

^ badass, glad you're on board. one thing though: "previous termination was improper, going to use standard loops." if it detects "improper termination," it really slows down the progress of your folding client. i would use the shortcut as i detailed above, or just create a shortcut to the executable and don't add it to the startup if you don't want to, then use -forceasm as a command line argument in the properties of the shortcut to ensure your folding client always uses the best process. this gets you the best performance and gets the most points. (if you're running as a service, you have to ad the -forceasm flag as a registry entry)

9/6/2007 4:05:41 PM

I exited it by clicking the x. Is there a better way to do it? I did create a shortcut put it doesn't have the -forceasm line, so I'll add that in there.

9/6/2007 5:02:14 PM