They're all deadbeats. Trump is the victim here obviously.

10/6/2016 8:52:39 AM

so as to no lose Dentaldamn's great post on the bottom of the last page:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/dozens-lawsuits-accuse-trump-not-paying-his-bills-reports-claim.amp.html?client=safari

Quote :

"The paper also reported that more than 200 liens have been filed against Trump or his businesses by contractors and employees dating back to the 1980s. The claimants include curtain makers, chandelier shops, cabinet makers and even Trump's lawyers who represented him in prior cases."

Huffpost echochamber. Got it.

[Edited on October 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM. Reason : .]

10/6/2016 11:29:03 AM

also I work in the NYC real estate world and trump company payment issues are well known in the industry.

10/6/2016 1:07:52 PM

Donald Trump lies so much his own lawyers meet with him two at a time so they have two witnesses to what he said for when he changes his story in the future

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/783914466379464704

10/6/2016 1:09:43 PM

I wonder why people do business with Trump if he never pays.

10/6/2016 2:47:34 PM

just like how Wells Fargo is about to go out of business right?!

10/6/2016 3:05:55 PM

I wonder if he got kicked out
https://twitter.com/gadinbc/status/783831913437941760

10/6/2016 3:15:00 PM

Bc the internet didn't exist in the same capacity in the 80's and 90's.

Also people are stupid and/or need money and take contract jobs?

Sweet argument tho.

[Edited on October 6, 2016 at 3:47 PM. Reason : You seem to be victim blaming hard working small businesses. ]

10/6/2016 3:46:26 PM

If Trump actually did what the media said then the contractors can sue. If they can't sue they either suck with contracts or did a shitty job. That's how payment works. That's how money works.

10/6/2016 4:56:31 PM

lol "the media"

10/6/2016 5:05:52 PM

yeah I mean everyone has the money and time to sue and if they don't they're wrong

10/6/2016 5:06:16 PM

Everyone has time to read their contract or read reviews of their employer. Just like they have time to read Vox/Thinkprogress/Huffpost/insertTabloid *Gawker (for synapse)

[Edited on October 6, 2016 at 6:34 PM. Reason : Shout out for gawker]

10/6/2016 6:34:21 PM

So everyone should enter a contract expecting to have to sue to get paid.

I mean say a small piano shop gets a $100k contract to sell Trump pianos. They deliver them. They should EXPECT to either not get paid after delivering them or having to sue to get paid.

It just makes sense.

It's PC to have a contract fulfilled by both parties bruh

10/6/2016 7:52:56 PM

Quote :

"Everyone has time to read their contract or read reviews of their employer."

Firmware upgrade needed, JCEbot

10/6/2016 7:58:34 PM

Trump supporters also think Hurricane Matthew is a made up media narrative so

10/6/2016 8:18:29 PM

Lol fucking drudge

10/6/2016 8:49:31 PM

There is no doubt that Trump screwed people over but the question is, was it legal? If it was legal, it was actually good business according to the laws of capitalism in this country. Smart people pay less in taxes and don't pay people for their work. Geniuses figure out ways to do that over and over and get away with it. Don't blame me for talking about it. Blame yourself for supporting that system.

And if that is the system we want, Trump is one of the smartest individuals outside of banking. His prowess at what we call "screwing people over" should translate well into making government deals that are favourable for the american people.

10/6/2016 9:29:19 PM

Money talks

Bullshit walks

10/6/2016 9:40:45 PM

Quote :

"should translate well into making government deals that are favourable for the american people."

Trump only makes deals that benefit Trump, which will continue if he's president. He would carpet bomb an entire state if he thought it would impress Ivanka enough to fuck him afterward.

10/6/2016 10:06:41 PM

JCE doesn't realize (or is too retarded to realize) Trump screws over people involved with the construction and maintenance of his real estate portfolio. People in these professions usually vote republican.

Also apparently they don't read contracts or have money to sue billion dollar companies.

So there ya go.

10/6/2016 10:15:58 PM

Quote :

"Our project found about 3,500 legal actions involving Trump, including 1,900 where he or his companies were a plaintiff and about 1,300 in which he was the defendant. Due to his branding value, Trump is determined to defend his name and reputation. Kelly Jordan, USA TODAY"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

Trump has a tendency to sue people a lot for defamation, suits me normally loses but he just uses as a tactic to force people he dislikes to spend money and time with a lawyer-- fairly unethical abuse of the system.

He's got thinner skin than a tomato.

10/6/2016 10:26:35 PM

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264

Is it a reach to say that his campaigns deep ties to pro-Russian people is slightly worrisome?

Also:

Quote :

"Trump tells CNN he still considers Central Park 5 guilty: "They admitted they were guilty. police in original investigation say they were""

This is fucking despicable. He is literally just screaming dog whistles at this point. If he continues to fall in polling it is going to be a horrendously deplorable next few weeks.

[Edited on October 7, 2016 at 12:17 PM. Reason : X]

10/7/2016 12:10:07 PM

Ah yes, Politico. Did that article go to the DNC and Clinton campaign for approval like the others?

10/7/2016 12:20:52 PM

Huh? Are you serious with Politico? Go away.

10/7/2016 12:23:02 PM

Drudge or bust, yo. Politico is whack.

10/7/2016 12:25:55 PM

http://www.newsweek.com/epileptogenic-pepe-video-507417

just working class folks who feel like they've been left behind economically

10/7/2016 12:32:34 PM

The wikileaks exposed Politico editors submitting articles to the DNC for approval before sending it to their own editors.

I guess the echo-chamber doesn't discuss that much? Shocker

10/7/2016 1:06:52 PM

Was Vogel I think.. and if you read his stories he is anything but liberal.

10/7/2016 1:11:47 PM

JCE, can you please post all non-bias acceptable news sources that you wouldn't immediately scoff at?

10/7/2016 1:26:14 PM

Info wars.com






Jk lmao

I honestly can't. I try to read both extremes. I just think it's worrisome when so many are so easily influenced by one side only.

10/7/2016 1:35:18 PM

right, so you can't name a single source because all of them are biased. got it.

10/7/2016 1:37:09 PM

if it makes you feel better, i think this cycle has made politico look like a steaming pile of shit. for many reasons on both sides of the aisle. that DNC stuff, constant false equivalencies that have normalized Trump, etc.

10/7/2016 1:38:19 PM

Quote :

"right, so you can't name a single source because all of them are biased. got it. "

Unfortunately, media bias is an unfathomable concept to most users here... Given the amount of Vox/slate/gawker/Thinkprogress/Huffpost links I see shared.

10/7/2016 2:00:45 PM

so is there a way to post evidence of something you don't agree with and have you not question it's source?

10/7/2016 2:01:57 PM

The crazy part is the same people have no problem seeing media bias in "enemy" countries but when it comes to american media, they think there is no corporate influence.

10/7/2016 2:05:13 PM

I would treat it on an article by article basis in most cases. Most "articles" of value reference an actual study anyway... So it's better to just look at the study and avoid another layer of bias.

10/7/2016 2:06:57 PM

so then what specifically is incorrect about the article NYM posted and questioning whether or not we should be just a little worried about Trump's ties to Russia?

10/7/2016 2:09:46 PM

Quote :

"media bias is an unfathomable concept to most users here"

See, here's exactly what i'm talking about. I'm pretty sure most, if not all the users here do realize that most media has some bias. But you see a handful of people link huffpost, and you just assume that everyone on here thinks the huffpost is gospel.

10/7/2016 2:13:20 PM

The facts of the article I'm sure are correct, that a lobbyist did work for an Russia owned oil company and wrote a speech for Trump. The problem is that it's just more redbaiting horseshit. You can do fuzzy dot connecting like that with any politician. John Podesta's brother Tony worked for Russia. It means fuck all.

10/7/2016 3:39:35 PM

People still respond to JCE and Earl. Amazing.

10/7/2016 3:52:39 PM

The Trumpty Dance:

"I'm the one who said 'Just Grab Em in the Pussy'"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-recorded-having-extremely-lewd-conversation-about-women-in-2005/2016/10/07/3b9ce776-8cb4-11e6-bf8a-3d26847eeed4_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews

10/7/2016 4:19:40 PM

so entertaining. he'd be the perfect guy to go out drinking in the west village on a slow tuesday night. this won't change anything though. the people voting for him already think this type of stuff makes him "real" and "relatable". You can bet Bill and most american men talk the same way in private but obama doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would take this way.

[Edited on October 7, 2016 at 4:28 PM. Reason : jeez]

10/7/2016 4:28:10 PM

i moved on her like a bitch

10/7/2016 4:31:50 PM

10/7/2016 4:38:20 PM

Lol, remember when Romney got KILLED for days about binders full of women.

And when evangelicals chose Trump.

Good times.

(Note: this just makes me laugh. I don't really care. But it will hurt him with any women who were undecided)

10/7/2016 4:41:36 PM

Seems like the media has been saving up for these October surprises

Mine pence right now:
https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/784491252700028934

10/7/2016 4:45:12 PM

Quote :

"“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.” “I did try and fuck her. She was married.” “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”"

Quote :

"“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.” “I did try and fuck her. She was married.” “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”"

Quote :

"“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married.” “I did try and fuck her. She was married.” “Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.” “Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.”"

10/7/2016 4:46:28 PM

I wonder if this is why the trump campaign pulled more than a $million in ad buys.

10/7/2016 4:47:48 PM

Is it technically too late to move trump off the ballot and let it be pence? Seems like that would break ballot rules but its moot because trump would never back down. He won't even get past 200 electoral votes.

10/7/2016 4:48:55 PM

The media could have released this last year but they wanted to hype trump up until the convention so that the general election would be guaranteed.

10/7/2016 5:14:53 PM