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Bullet
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^^^not over yet

https://www.wral.com/story/republican-nc-supreme-court-candidate-wants-gop-led-high-court-to-toss-ballots-after-elections-board-rejects-protest/21774323/

[Edited on December 19, 2024 at 10:00 AM. Reason : seems really weird that a Supreme Court candidate is fighting so hard to toss 60,000 ballots]

12/19/2024 9:58:57 AM

aaronburro
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^ not just 60000 ballots, but 60000 ballots where damned near all of the voters involved showed valid forms of ID which proved they were citizens.

12/19/2024 9:37:49 PM

Bullet
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Still ongoing....

https://www.wral.com/story/nc-supreme-court-orders-elections-board-not-to-certify-riggs-griffin-court-race/21797288/

It seems that none of these articles actually really explain what his "legal theory" is for why those 60,000 ballots are "invalid".

1/7/2025 1:08:56 PM

thegoodlife3
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taking over supreme courts has always been the in the playbook for authoritarianism

1/7/2025 2:17:14 PM

Bullet
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If you want to see if you're one of the 60,000 "invalids":

https://ncnewsline.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/JeffersonGriffinList-AllegedIncompleteRegs-Names.pdf

[Edited on January 7, 2025 at 2:49 PM. Reason : Disclaimer: I don't know how that list was compiled or how accurate it is, I got it off social medi]

1/7/2025 2:39:49 PM

aaronburro
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^^^ it's a pretty complex theory called "see what sticks". His arguments are completely and utterly without merit. But it's OK, because he's only trying to get on the state Supreme Court, so, ya know... sound legal arguments aren't really needed there, right?

[Edited on January 7, 2025 at 5:09 PM. Reason : ]

1/7/2025 5:02:00 PM

Bullet
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+1 for McCrory and others?

https://www.wral.com/news/state/nc-ad-republican-challenges-gop-ballot-toss-jan-2025/

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"‘Stop this attack’: New ad features NC Republican challenging GOP-backed effort to toss ballots

The ad was paid for by a group tied to former North Carolina Republican Gov. Pat McCrory, who’s leading efforts to help improve trust in elections among fellow conservatives."

1/24/2025 4:39:03 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/01/north-carolina-supreme-court-steal-allison-riggs-victory.html

they’re signaling that they’re gonna hand it to Griffin

[Edited on January 24, 2025 at 4:48 PM. Reason : .]

1/24/2025 4:48:14 PM

Bullet
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What's their "reasoning" for this? (i know)

https://www.wral.com/story/new-gop-bill-would-slash-early-voting-in-nc-ban-sunday-voting/21845129/

2/6/2025 12:26:00 PM

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https://www.wral.com/story/north-carolina-republicans-seek-to-block-democratic-ag-from-challenging-trump-s-executive-orders/21844920/

2/6/2025 3:16:56 PM

Snewf
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^ lol the party of small government wants state government to bend the knee to federal power

get all the way fucked

Democrats are bitches but Republicans are low quality comic book villains
zero integrity and they aren't even serious business people - at the very least you could toss your scruples in exchange for being good at business, but they are all abject failures

2/7/2025 9:55:23 AM

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https://www.wral.com/story/nc-senate-looks-to-stop-expanding-health-insurances-mandates-for-millions-including-state-employees/21855168/

2/12/2025 10:51:30 AM

Money_Jones
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From ^

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" “There's 58 mandated coverages,” Burgin said. “You know, I tell people all the time, God only had to have 10 commandments.”"


These pieces of shit are so fucking vile

2/12/2025 11:48:43 AM

Bullet
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^seriously. I guess he thinks he's pretty clever with that response, but I'm not sure he doesn't realize that' it's not relevant and doesn't make any sense.

[Edited on February 12, 2025 at 11:53 AM. Reason : ]

2/12/2025 11:52:43 AM

aaronburro
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On the one hand, mandates do make insurance more expensive. On the other hand, what a douche

2/12/2025 6:13:00 PM

Bullet
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https://www.wral.com/story/as-trump-threatened-a-primary-a-gop-holdout-on-hegseth-flipped/21859022/

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"North Carolina U.S. Sen. Thom Tillis secretly led an effort to persuade fellow Republicans to join him in opposing the nomination of Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth. His sudden turnabout came after pressure from President Donald Trump."

2/14/2025 10:40:18 AM

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^^
Well, a lot of things make things expensive. You wouldn't say mowing the grass makes a park expensive. Of course, this is different, but still there are a lot more bigger causes of expensive healthcare than that

[Edited on February 14, 2025 at 1:47 PM. Reason : 1]

2/14/2025 1:45:59 PM

aaronburro
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Wat

2/15/2025 12:24:48 AM

emnsk
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Quote :
"On the one hand, mandates do make insurance more expensive."

2/15/2025 7:32:10 AM

aaronburro
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Yes... which might be a reasonable reason to be generally wary of them... so...

2/15/2025 8:16:56 AM

Bullet
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There's a good-sized crowd over at the Capitol Building protesting that loser Griffin trying to throw-out 60,000 legitimate ballots.

https://abc11.com/post/nc-undecided-race-protests-scheduled-triangle-amid-update-supreme-court-between-griffin-riggs/15911778/

[Edited on February 17, 2025 at 12:53 PM. Reason : Capitol... not Capital]

2/17/2025 12:39:45 PM

Bullet
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https://www.wral.com/story/gop-lawmakers-push-to-ban-north-carolina-from-suing-trump-after-lawsuits-find-success/21881821/

2/26/2025 4:25:30 PM

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what in the entire fuck is this???

https://www.wral.com/story/nc-lawmakers-reverse-themselves-move-ahead-with-bill-to-invest-state-pension-plan-in-cryptocurrency/21894604/

https://www.ncleg.gov/Sessions/2025/Bills/House/PDF/H92v0.pdf

3/10/2025 11:26:33 PM

Bullet
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https://www.wral.com/story/nc-republicans-push-new-bathroom-bill-years-after-hb2-boycotts/21927592/

And in other news, loser Jefferson Griffin is STILL trying to steal a seat on the NC Supreme Court.

3/26/2025 9:53:07 AM

Bullet
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Of course this loser was a member of Kappa Alpha

https://www.wral.com/story/north-carolina-judge-challenging-outcome-of-race-wore-confederate-uniform-in-college-photo/21933241/



[Edited on March 28, 2025 at 2:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/28/2025 2:22:34 PM

thegoodlife3
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they’re about to overturn an election

https://www.wral.com/story/republican-jefferson-griffin-wins-nc-appeals-court-challenge-in-case-contesting-65k-ballots/21944370/

4/4/2025 1:53:06 PM

Bullet
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From what I recall reading, they don't even know if throwing out the 60k+ votes will make him the winner. It'd be hilarious if they went through all this, and Riggs still won. But I know that's not likely.

4/4/2025 1:58:03 PM

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how were the ballots counted illegally? 65 thousand is a shitload.

4/4/2025 2:21:59 PM

Bullet
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"Two Republican judges on the NC Court of Appeals just brought defeated state Supreme Court candidate Jefferson Griffin one step closer to overturning his loss.
Here's what you need to know ??

In a 2-1 decision on party lines, the appeals court sided with Griffin's controversial argument, which would change the state rules about whose votes are counted AFTER the election has already happened.

The result is about 60,000 North Carolina voters — as well as another 5,000 or so military and overseas voters — would have their votes tossed if the state can't get additional information on them in the next 15 business days.

Another 267 overseas voters would have their votes summarily tossed out. Those voters have not resided in North Carolina but their parents were registered NC voters before they left the U.S. Previously, such voters have been considered legal voters by North Carolina, so this is a new interpretation of the state Constitution.

These voters are overwhelmingly Democratic voters handpicked by Griffin and Republicans in an attempt to make Griffin the winner despite multiple recounts and state canvassing that showed Democratic Justice Allison Riggs won.

Griffin has not proven that a single one of these voters was an unregistered voter, a point noted by Court of Appeals Judge Toby Hampson in his dissent.


"The proposition that a significant portion of these 61,682 voters will receive notice and timely take curative measures is a fiction that does not disguise the act of mass disenfranchisement the majority’s decision represents," Hampson wrote.

The Court of Appeals ruling will likely be appealed to the NC Supreme Court, which is also dominated by Griffin's political party. Justice Allison Riggs, who won the election in November, might also look to federal courts to intervene."

4/4/2025 2:41:09 PM

Snewf
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ONE OF THOSE VOTERS IS MY MOTHER

this piece of shit is disenfranchising my mother

she served on the schoolboard that educated Griffin

I hope something truly awful happens to him

4/4/2025 4:35:51 PM

The Coz
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Has she been contacted? What does it take to get the vote to count?

4/4/2025 6:48:36 PM

aaronburro
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"From what I recall reading, they don't even know if throwing out the 60k+ votes will make him the winner. It'd be hilarious if they went through all this, and Riggs still won. But I know that's not likely."

Oh, there is zero chance he would lose. They specifically targeted Democrats and democratically-leaning counties for their "challenges." It's a plain and obvious Equal Protection violation, as the law is being applied unevenly. It's the kind of challenges that were ruled invalid under Bush v Gore, for fuck's sake. Yet the court said "whatevs, he can challenge whoever he wants." It's complete and utter bullshit.

Let's look at the actual questions. There's 3 classes of ballots they wanted to throw out

1) Overseas voters who have never lived in the state. There is an explicit, unambiguous state law that says these voters are to be counted in NC. It's not even fucking close. The court said the law is unconstitutional, because reasons.
2) Military voters and spouses overseas who didn't show ID.. Griffin challenged this before the election. He lost in in the State Elections board and in court. The elections board said these voters don't have to show ID. Federal law doesn't require these voters to show ID. Maybe there's a valid argument, but it's sus as fuck, considering what these voters have to do to even get a ballot. Not only that but these voters were told they didn't need to provide ID by elections officials, and now their votes are being thrown out for following the directions of elections officials. For many of them, there wasn't even a way to provide that ID, for fuck's sake. Either way, the court said "lol, fuck em, because reasons." And Republicans are standing by watching military members have their thrown out.
By the way, Griffin him-fucking-self voted this way in 2019 and 2020.
3) Voters with incomplete info in the state database. This is the biggest category, and also total bullshit. The state passed a law in 2004 requiring this information. It didn't update the fucking voter registration form until 2023 to even allow folks to put this info on the damned form. And then there were clerical errors in putting data into the database, so people may have actually provided the right data, and the state fucked it up. Again, Griffin challenged this class of voters before the election to purge the voter rolls, and both the courts and the Elections Board rejected it. But the kicker? EVERY LAST ONE OF THESE MOTHERFUCKERS SHOWED ID WHEN THEY VOTED. There's no damn question who the fuck they were when they voted. There's no damn question they were allowed to vote. And there's ample federal precedent that people aren't dq-ed from voting due to gov't clerical errors. Yet, here we are.

4/4/2025 10:05:16 PM

Money_Jones
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Honest question, after this bullshit concludes and they almost certainly give a win to this vile sack of shit, could her team go target voters in red leaning counties and challenge their votes on the same grounds?

4/4/2025 10:25:05 PM

aaronburro
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There would be nothing stopping her team from researching who to DQ right now. I suspect her challenges would be rejected because they were untimely (which, 6 months later, they certainly are). I doubt she would go for it, given her history as a voting rights activist, but it would definitely make a clear point. To be clear, Griffin plainly targeted black voters here. I think I saw that a black voter was twice as likely to have their vote challenged as a white voter.

You are more than welcome to go look through the challenged voters list. https://dl.ncsbe.gov/?prefix=Legal/Nov%202024%20Protests/Griffin/

4/4/2025 10:41:53 PM

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"Here's how to how to fix your ballot ASAP if you're on the list of voters Republicans and Jefferson Griffin are trying to throw out.
Republicans on the NC Court of Appeals agreed last week to throw out 65,000+ voters in the 2024 NC Supreme Court election if their ballots aren't "cured" within 15 business days — setting the stage for Republican Jefferson Griffin to make his 2024 loss into a win.
?? 1. Search the list at https://thegriffinlist.com/ to find out if you're on it.
2. If you are on the list, you need to provide updated information to your county board of elections ASAP. Don't wait to to do it.
3. If you have a driver's license, you can update that info quickly by filling out a new voter registration form at payments.ncdot.gov. Since you're already registered, filling this out will update your info. Republicans are targeting people who haven't provided a driver's license or Social Security number, so make sure to include that.
4. If you don't have a driver's license, go to ncsbe.gov/registering. Print out a voter registration form. Fill it out and submit it ASAP to your local board of elections. Find your local board's address and contact info at this link -- https://vt.ncsbe.gov/BOEInfo/
?? This case will almost certainly be appealed to higher courts, but don't wait to do this. The sooner you remedy this, the sooner you take away Republicans' chance to strip you of your vote in the 2024 NC Supreme Court race."

4/7/2025 12:38:29 PM

Bullet
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I can't get over the fact that this isn't just some slimy politician, this is a guy who will potentially be a judge, a judge on the NC Supreme Court.

https://www.wral.com/story/jefferson-griffin-asks-supreme-court-not-to-hear-lawsuit-over-his-attempt-to-throw-out-65k-ballots-from-2024-elections/21955354/

4/11/2025 12:41:59 PM

aaronburro
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Well, the NC SC got it partly right. Keeping the 60k votes where the state fucked up, but still tossing the overseas and military ballots

4/12/2025 1:03:46 AM

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