BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Ah, ok, thanks 11/24/2006 1:52:58 PM |
JTHelms All American 4696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Mr. White was in cahoots with Vesper, who was implanted as a mole at British intelligence so Mr. White and his organization (whatever that maybe) could pull strings on both sides. " |
Actually, that's incorrect. Vesper wasn't implanted as a mole, she was a British agent who went double because the enemy was torturing her boyfriend. She hated it.11/24/2006 5:34:36 PM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't quite catch all that was written on the 'Mr.White' text message at the end.....Did Vesper send him that from the grave or how did Bond get that message when he did? 11/25/2006 12:43:23 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
loved this movie 11/25/2006 1:13:32 AM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
saw it tonight.
bad ass. 11/25/2006 1:25:05 AM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
when vesper came out during the poker game, boobs were like whoa. 11/25/2006 7:49:18 AM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
saw it last night, easily the best Bond since Connery.
More realistic, more vulnerable Bond character.
The villain, while still a little over the top had much more realistic goals of making money by shorting stocks and then lowering said stock value by terrorist action, much like the real life story of 9/11, as far as stocks go anyway.
Very good movie. Can't wait for the next in series.
And no I didn't read the book and no I won't read the book. Why would I want to ruin a perfectly good movie? 11/25/2006 4:00:50 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "easily the best Bond since Connery. " |
same was said about Brosnan
Quote : | "more vulnerable Bond character" |
OHMSS + LTK + every Brosnan Movie
Quote : | "Why would I want to ruin a perfectly good movie? " |
it was ruined before it came out11/25/2006 5:02:16 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i want to see this
i have a bond nut friend back home that said this is possibly the best one ever 11/25/2006 5:06:45 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i just called the whambulance 11/25/2006 7:28:47 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I like my Bond as an actuall spy, sneaking around and killing people more covertly than past movies. I don't like bond getting flustered or angry so easily. Nice to have him be cold and ruthless at times, but he still needs to be smooth while doing it.
Whole movie should have had Bond like in the opening black and white scene and the very last final closing scene: calm, cool, collected, but still covert and cold and ruthless spy. 11/25/2006 7:32:39 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
^only smart person in this thread 11/25/2006 11:34:09 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
you do understand that they're trying to make money off of these movies. 11/26/2006 12:21:16 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i loved the black and white sequence at the beginning
the film in the fighting part was kinda scratchy and cool-looking 11/26/2006 12:24:54 AM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Whole movie should have had Bond like in the opening black and white scene and the very last final closing scene: calm, cool, collected, but still covert and cold and ruthless spy." |
he's a new 00, he's not a perfectly cool and calm gangsta spy yet11/26/2006 2:30:42 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
This movie was great and all, but best since Connery?
Come on, I liked Connery but IMHO I liked Roger Moore the best with his smartass attidude.
Connery, Moore, and it appears Craig=Good Bonds. Brosnan, Dalton=Terrible bonds. 11/27/2006 2:13:17 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I finally saw this movie on Thanksgiving day. Holy crap, phenominal! I loved this movie.
Damn, damn good! 11/27/2006 2:38:10 PM |
BearWhoDrive All American 5385 Posts user info edit post |
Fantastic movie. I want more and I want them now. I loved seeing a Bond that's still a little behind the learning curve. Just fantastic. 11/27/2006 2:42:13 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he's not a perfectly cool and calm gangsta spy yet" |
only in movieland where filmmakers cater to very dumbed down audience
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 3:58 PM. Reason : and Moore wasn't a good Bond...he was just goofy and that's why people liked him]11/27/2006 3:57:57 PM |
toemoss All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I loved seeing a Bond that's still a little behind the learning curve" |
that's the best part about it is that he's still badass, but with just enough noobishness to make me look foward to the next ones.11/27/2006 4:08:11 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The job is done and the bitch is dead." |
best line of the movie11/27/2006 4:19:17 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
could have been the best line of the movie
it was poorly executed 11/27/2006 4:27:54 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
agree with most people here - excellent movie. not just a good Bond movie, but good movie overall. I've actually only seen at most 2 or 3 of the previous movies - i think 2 of the Brosnon ones, then bits and pieces of earlier ones. Having had no real background in Bond, when i saw the Brosnon ones, I thought they were insanely stupid. The acting was bad, the girls were terrible, the gadgets were just so insanely over-the-top unrealistic, and worst of all, Bond appeared to exist outside of physics - he seemed unharmable, doing everything while his tux never wrinkled and his hair remained perfect.
this one, though, really got me fired up. It showed Bond almost as a "real man". Albiet strong as hell and crazy-powerful, but at least not impervious to harm. I mean, how many other bond movies has he wound up in a wheelchair after being repeatdly bashed in the nuts? The chase scene at the beginning was outstanding, the girl, in addition to being a beauty, did a bang-up acting job, there was an overall good mix of action and drama, and best of all there were no huge "give me a break, this is ri-god-damned-diculous" moments as far as escaping death or special gadgets or weapons, like in the others I've seen. 11/27/2006 4:32:23 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there were no huge "give me a break, this is ri-god-damned-diculous" " |
i actually said this multiple times throughout this movie
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 4:39 PM. Reason : he ran through a fucking wall for crying out loud ]11/27/2006 4:38:30 PM |
wanaflap All American 2127 Posts user info edit post |
I loved the free running-esque 2nd scene.
Very good movie and am very glad to see that the series got away from cheesy one-liners, gadgets and the like (everything you can find in Austin Powers). That being said, I did miss the Bond-Money Penney conversations.
I also liked M playing a bigger role.
Overall a great movie to see, and I'd say one of the best Bond movies made (having seen every Bond movie made). While Sean Connery is still the standard to which other Bonds are measured, I was never thrilled over the storylines in his Bond movies (this might be an age gap). The believability of Casino is what really attracts me to this movie, and other than purchasing boxed sets for my Dad at Xmas, will probably be my first Bond DVD buy. 11/27/2006 4:47:38 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12521 Posts user info edit post |
its not like it was a finished wall, it was a construction site 11/27/2006 4:47:43 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Brosnan, Dalton=Terrible bonds." |
I wouldn't go that far. Brosnan held his own as Bond, it's just that he was given shitty material to work with in the three previous films.
Quote : | "I like my Bond as an actuall spy, sneaking around and killing people more covertly than past movies. I don't like bond getting flustered or angry so easily. Nice to have him be cold and ruthless at times, but he still needs to be smooth while doing it." |
I appreciate this type of Bond as well. Chasing after Prince of Persia and the whole jumbo jet subplot would have ruined a real spy (especially since he got caught on film in the former and just plain caught in the latter, for crying out loud!), but I guess you have to throw a bone to the audience of Joe Q. Average and give them some mindless action. It didn't ruin the movie for me, anyway. What I was more worried about was pointless and beyond-suspension-of-disbelief type stuff, such as hotels sculpted from ice or CEO's who start international wars in order to acquire broadcasting rights. I can agree that the Bond/Vesper romance was rushed, but overall the story this time around was much more believable.
Quote : | "he ran through a fucking wall for crying out loud " |
Did you honestly expect him to swing through the opening like the other dude? Besides, it looked like somewhat thin drywall to me. We're not talking about him running through cemented blocks.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 4:57 PM. Reason : blah]11/27/2006 4:53:33 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Watched this movie for the second time, still as good as the first time I had seen it. I had serious doubts on Daniel Craig playing Bond, I thought he played it well. 11/27/2006 4:57:45 PM |
FuhCtious All American 11955 Posts user info edit post |
If you like Parkour then there is a movie called District B13 that you would really like. The other co-creator of Parkour, that free running and bouncing off the walls stuff, is the star. It's got a very "Escape From New York" feel to it, and the stunts are pretty amazing. My guess is that they saw that movie and hired David Belle and Foucan (the black guy from Bond) to do some stuff in Casino Royale that no one had ever seen before.
If you get a chance, watch District B13. It's not bad. 11/27/2006 5:07:17 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he ran through a fucking wall for crying out loud" |
yeah, it was a single sheet of drywall..... big deal. Not saying that I could do it, or that it would even be easy for a large man, but i'm more than willing to give him enough leeway to make that believable, certainly moreso than breaking the laws of physics by, for example, sky diving to catch up to other free-falling objects.
You could make the argument that "why was there an unsupported single sheets of drywall standing around. they should have 2x4 studs on 16" centers with a reinforced header underneath the window at the top", but that would be going too far.
and if you have doubts about the first chase scene being the most unrealistic part of the movie, then just watch some of these dudes (the actor who was being chased has a background like this) http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rxv8SS1XU_8
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 5:12 PM. Reason : .]11/27/2006 5:09:38 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
you people are justifying running through a wall as something that would really happen 11/27/2006 5:14:14 PM |
umbrellaman All American 10892 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and if you have doubts about the first chase scene being the most unrealistic part of the movie, then just watch some of these dudes (the actor who was being chased has a background like this) http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rxv8SS1XU_8" |
Yeah I was very heavily reminded of that clip while watching that scene.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 5:20 PM. Reason : apparently I don't know my crazy code ]11/27/2006 5:16:39 PM |
agentlion All American 13936 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you people are justifying running through a wall as something that would really happen" |
jesus - if that's the biggest problem you have with this movie, and you find this more problematic than 95% of the shit that happens in the other Bond movies, I don't know whta will make you happy.11/27/2006 5:18:26 PM |
Jere Suspended 4838 Posts user info edit post |
^seriously, the inivisible car from the last bond made me go WTF, he was running through an unfinished wall, not big of deal
not to mention that it was 10 minutes of parkour 11/27/2006 5:37:42 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
jesus, charlie is trying far too hard to diss this movie.
it's obviously kind of stretching it and lame for you have to attack a scene in a bond movie for being unrealistic.
just give it up
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 6:51 PM. Reason : fds] 11/27/2006 6:51:42 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Wait, this from the movie series that gave us "Jaws" in not one, but two movies? 11/27/2006 7:48:11 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
Jaws was awesome
you know it 11/27/2006 7:49:36 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
RAWR I'M GONNA BITE YOU.
OH NOES I BIT ELECRICITY.
OH NOES I'M DEAD.
BUT NOT RLY.
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 8:02 PM. Reason : FDSH] 11/27/2006 8:01:50 PM |
Bolck Veteran 206 Posts user info edit post |
i bet i could run through a sheet of dry wall. 11/27/2006 9:29:41 PM |
CharlieEFH All American 21806 Posts user info edit post |
its not a question of could
its a question of would 11/27/2006 9:33:41 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure i could run throw a sheet of dry wall too
in fact, i think it sounds like something that would be pretty fun 11/27/2006 9:35:00 PM |
mSm All American 566 Posts user info edit post |
He ran through dry wall. Dry wall is not that strong and breaks rather easily. I don't doubt that someone could run through it. I probably could. 11/27/2006 9:43:32 PM |
Bolck Veteran 206 Posts user info edit post |
so
how much does a sheet of drywall cost? 11/27/2006 9:52:55 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
not that much
from what i've heard, you can get the scraps or the ones that are kinda already fucked up that they cant sell for REALLY cheap 11/27/2006 9:54:36 PM |
Bolck Veteran 206 Posts user info edit post |
i smell some wolfweb news coming up. 11/27/2006 9:55:34 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on November 27, 2006 at 10:09 PM. Reason : bhgjghj]
11/27/2006 10:09:21 PM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I didn't quite catch all that was written on the 'Mr.White' text message at the end.....Did Vesper send him that from the grave or how did Bond get that message when he did?" |
She knew that if something were to happen to her, James would check her phone. She left that message for Bond way in advance.11/28/2006 9:42:40 AM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
For your viewing pleasure.
[Edited on November 28, 2006 at 10:27 AM. Reason : .] 11/28/2006 10:27:31 AM |
needlesmcgir All American 2427 Posts user info edit post |
I enjoyed this movie very much. 11/28/2006 11:01:40 AM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Quote : | "Sorry, this GeoCities site is currently unavailable." |
11/28/2006 11:12:48 AM |