^^ i'm debating it...though the laptops are generating (imo) significant points for me, and cost less than $2.85/month to have folding (i had to get SOME use out of that watt meter, didn't i?)...desktop is a bit more of a power hog, generates more heat, and takes up more space that i don't really have

oh, and i'm #21 on the team and coming up fast

oh, and page 50

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 1:05 PM. Reason : wrong line]

12/7/2007 1:03:25 PM

it says im making 7,000+ points average per day.. I usually only get ~1100. it also says I got 47404 point in the last 24 hours. What's going on?

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=284410

I'm pushing for the top 50. not bad in 1.5 months

12/7/2007 1:10:18 PM

Support Cancer Research and the NCSU Wolfpack With Your Computer's Spare Time!

What Is It?
Essentially the http://folding.stanford.edu/ uses your unused CPU cycles to model how proteins fold in the human body. The misfolding of proteins is often involved in well known diseases, such as Alzheimer’s, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson’s disease. Because this endeavor requires massive amounts of computing power, their project uses spare CPU time on computers that would otherwise sit idle in homes and businesses across the world. Here at North Carolina State University, we have formed this team in order to donate our spare CPU time to help this important endeavor.

The North Carolina State University (http://ncsufolding.com) Folding@Home Team (Team # 59) was one of the first teams to join the Folding@Home project, and was the very first University-based team to join. We are currently ranked in the top 100 in the world and are ramping up production in an effort to make it into the Top 50. We are all dedicated to doing our part to help end some of these terrible diseases, and we would appreciate the company of anyone who would like to help.

All it takes is the installation of a small piece of software and your computer will start completing Work Units for the project and the team. The Folding@Home process runs at the lowest possible priority so you can run it 24X7 without slowing down your computer or interfering with your everyday computing tasks. If you have a Sony PS3 Game Console you can also run Folding@Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3) on it with great results.

How Can I Help?

Go to http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download,download and install the software. Our Team Number is 59.

Click here - http://www.ncsufolding.com/?page_id=4 for more detailed installation instructions.

Windows Computers:
We recommend using the "text-only console” client for most windows computers. If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor, be sure to install and run the SMP client to get you and the team <strong>far more points</strong> than the standard console client (but sometimes it has problems starting as a service, so you might have to restart the client manually or automatically via startup folder when your computer restarts). In general, its best to stay away from the graphical clients. If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how. Feel free to post in this thread with any questions.

Mac and Linux Computers:
There are both "text-only" consoles and SMP clients for Linux and Macintosh computers too! If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor be sure to run the SMP client as you'll get far more points than the text-only client. But the text-only clients also help out too if you only have single-core processors.

PS3:
PS3s currently provide over 60% of the processing power in the Folding@home network and are capable of producing many points for the team. If you have PS3 system version 1.6 or later, you will see a Folding@Home icon in the Network column of the XMB (PS3 Networking menu). Just click on the icon and that's it. If you don't have 1.6 or later, perform a system upgrade. Make sure to use Team #59!

The more computers and PS3s you run the clients on, the more points your username and the NCSU team earns! Install as many clients as you can and watch your username/team progress at the stats page - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59

Links

Team Links:
NCSU F@H Team Website: http://www.ncsufolding.com
NCSU F@H Team Discussion: http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=118820
NCSU F@H Team Facebook Group: http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5012521644

F@H Links:
F@H Project Homepage: http://folding.stanford.edu/
F@H Official Forums: http://forum.folding-community.org
F@H Wikipedia Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home
F@H Wiki Site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home

Stats:
Stats1: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
Stats2: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Stats
Monitor your production: http://fahmon.net
Compare your production with other users: http://fahinfo.org

12/7/2007 1:48:59 PM

Quote :

"^^ i'm debating it...though the laptops are generating (imo) significant points for me, and cost less than $2.85/month to have folding (i had to get SOME use out of that watt meter, didn't i?)...desktop is a bit more of a power hog, generates more heat, and takes up more space that i don't really have "

Good use of the watt meter. I've been meaning to get one myself out of curiosity. That's cheaper/month than I expected. You could always try not using a video card etc. to get a desktop to use fewer watts as long as it was a dedicated folding rig. You could also be part way to a PS3, but the points are not that high compared to duo core machines.

12/7/2007 5:25:26 PM

broke top 50 now

12/10/2007 4:15:03 PM

not going up as fast as i thought i would...was hoping to be top 100 but stuck at 103..was 106 few weeks ago...do i need to close out my browser when i sleep for this to speed up? i always leave open my aim and aim boxes, and maybe a few folder and a browser and maybe a word document...then when i come back the next day i can work on it without having to open it

12/10/2007 4:16:56 PM

^ i doubt you'd see much change, since browsers and such utilize ram more than they do cpu cycles...that said, it can't hurt

Quote :

"Good use of the watt meter. I've been meaning to get one myself out of curiosity. That's cheaper/month than I expected. You could always try not using a video card etc. to get a desktop to use fewer watts as long as it was a dedicated folding rig. You could also be part way to a PS3, but the points are not that high compared to duo core machines."

yeah, my laptop uses 43w on average at full speed, with occasional 49w peaks (i assumed 45w average)...electrons cost $0.08678/kWh (nov-june) or $0.9678/kWh (july-oct) so we average them out to $0.09178/kWh:

$0.09178/kWh * 45w * 24 hours/days * 365 days/year = 36176.7 watts/year
divide by 1000 watt-hours in a kWh = $36.18/year
divide by 12 to get the monthly rate = $3.01/month

okay, so my math was a bit off because i forgot that they charge a different rate during the warmer months than during the winter (http://www.progress-energy.com/aboutenergy/rates/nctariffs.asp)...still, $3/month isn't bad for a friendly competition and helping the scientific community

ps - sorry about the math tutorial...for some reason, i feel the desire to map out my logic...also, it's fun to be an informed consumer! THE MORE YOU KNOW

12/10/2007 5:03:16 PM

Quote :

"...was hoping to be top 100 but stuck at 103..was 106 few weeks ago...do i need to close out my browser when i sleep for this to speed up?"

naw you need to install clients on as many computers as you can! then you'll shoot up the rankings.

12/10/2007 5:06:14 PM

still looking for a F@H live CD for gorilla folding.

12/10/2007 5:13:59 PM

damn we've been hurting lately

12/11/2007 9:32:37 AM

everything I got is runnin wide open. only I should probably try and tweak it. the one on this current laptop is only using 50% of cpu. ps3 is runnin wild, other 2 laptops are runnin constantly.
anyway I could make it use more cpu%? on the laptops that are just sittin there, not actually performing any other "work"?



also, any tried running a second client under vmware?

12/13/2007 1:16:21 PM

^ Do you have hypertheading enabled on the 50% CPU laptops? The best thing to do is disable it and it should go to 100%.

12/13/2007 1:20:06 PM

yeah go into the BIOS and disable hyperthreading

12/13/2007 1:42:54 PM

they're dual core.

just installed smb client on one of them. so it'll just be sittin there effin SMOKIN!

i'll be doin some travelling with the other laptop, so after I'm done with travel, I'll throw SMB on it as well.

12/13/2007 3:48:40 PM

yeah u should def try to install as many SMP clients as you can...those clients produce all kinds of points

12/13/2007 4:31:41 PM

currently I'm sorta limited right now. but I'll be putting smb on when I'm done traveling. I still have the ps3 and 2 laptops runnin (one with and one without).

12/13/2007 4:46:16 PM

new colors at ExtremeOC page:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=59
Color codes are as follows: 0 / 1+ / 100+ / 200+ / 400+ / 800+ / 1.5k+ / 3k+ / 6k+

[Edited on December 15, 2007 at 2:10 PM. Reason : ,]

12/15/2007 2:09:52 PM

pack red ftw.

12/15/2007 3:36:23 PM

yay i'm in the top 100 now!...i was 102 yesterday

12/15/2007 5:07:15 PM

Hells yeah! 95th and rising quickly.

12/15/2007 10:48:58 PM

I just set 2 machines on campus to gorilla fold over the Christmas hols.

12/17/2007 4:39:44 PM

^ nice, we need it

12/19/2007 2:13:52 PM

Up to 82nd, from 172 in about a month

12/19/2007 6:51:15 PM

I'm catching up with you man. Up about 30 spots in about a week and a half.

12/19/2007 9:11:06 PM

How many active processors are you running? I would have two more but both of the extra computers I was going to have running died

12/19/2007 9:49:28 PM

Quote :

"12.19.07 0 0 12.18.07 0 0 12.17.07 0 0 12.16.07 343 1 12.15.07 343 1 12.14.07 226 1 12.13.07 0 0 12.12.07 343 1"

i dont get why some days i dont have ANY points and other days I have points...

12/19/2007 10:04:49 PM

everybody likes a day off

12/19/2007 10:12:17 PM

My PS3 and my desktop(amd athlon x2).

12/20/2007 1:07:18 AM

things don't look good.

the trend lines for our top 5 producers (myself included) are headed down.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59

anyone wanna step up to the plate and get into the top 5 producers?

12/20/2007 11:31:33 PM

anyone want to figure out how to fix the client on my desktop?

if so it's worth another 1700+PPD

a) it works 1 out of 10 times i open it up
b) it freezes at this:

[14:31:54] + Processing work unit
[14:31:54] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[14:31:54] Core found.
[14:31:54] Working on Unit 05 [December 20 14:31:54]
[14:31:54] + Working ...
[14:31:54] - Calling 'mpiexec -channel auto -np 4 FahCore_a1.exe -dir work/ -suffix 05 -checkpoint 3 -verbose -lifeline 3844 -version 591'

[14:31:55] *------------------------------*
[14:31:55] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[14:31:55] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[14:31:55] 
[14:31:55] Preparing to commence simulation
[14:31:55] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[14:32:12] - Looking at optimizations...
[14:32:12] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[14:32:12] - Previous termination oatus OK
[14:32:12] as improper.
[14:32:12] - Files status OK
[14:32:12] ndard loops.
[14:32:12] - Files status OK
[14:32:18] - Expanded 2975134 -> 15191787 (decompressed 510.6 percent)
[14:32:19] - Starting from initial work packet
[14:32:19] 
[14:32:19] Project: 2653 (Run 35, Clone 90, Gen 26)
[14:32:19] 
[14:32:19] g from initial work packet
[14:32:19] 
[14:32:19] Project: 2653 (Run 35, Clone 90, Gen 26)
[14:32:19] 
[14:32:20] Entering M.D.
[14:32:27] izing output
[14:32:27]  Go file
[14:34:27] 
[14:34:27] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FILE_IO_ERROR
[14:34:27] 
[14:34:27] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FILE_IO_ERROR

[14:38:23] *------------------------------*
[14:38:23] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[14:38:23] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[14:38:23] 
[14:38:23] Preparing to commence simulation
[14:38:23] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[14:38:24] Created dyn
[14:38:24] - Files status OK
[14:38:26] - Expanded 2975134 -> 15191787 (decompressed 510.6 percent)
[14:38:26] - Starting from initial work packet
[14:38:26] 
[14:38:26] Project: 2653 (Run 35, Clone 90, Gen 26)
[14:38:26] 
[14:38:27] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[14:38:27] Entering M.D.
[14:38:44]  percent)
[14:38:44] - Starting from initial work packet
[14:38:44] 
[14:38:44] Project: 2653 (Run 35, Clone 90, Gen 26)

[15:04:30] *------------------------------*
[15:04:30] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[15:04:30] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[15:04:30] 
[15:04:30] Preparing to commence simulation
[15:04:30] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[15:04:47] - Looking at optimizations...
[15:04:47] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[15:04:47] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[15:04:47] - Going to use standard loops.
[15:04:47] - Files status OK
[15:04:53] - Expanded 2943630 -> 15218030 (decompressed 516.9 percent)
[15:04:54] 
[15:04:54] Project: 2653 (R
[15:04:54] Project: 2653 (Run 37, Clone 151,
[15:04:54] Project: 2653 (Run 37, Clone 151, Gen 25)
[15:04:54] 
[15:04:54] ne 151, Gen 25)
[15:04:54] 
[15:04:54] Entering M.D.
[15:05:00] Couldn't open Go file
[15:05:00] 
[15:05:00] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FILE_IO_ERROR

[15:05:06] *------------------------------*
[15:05:06] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[15:05:06] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[15:05:06] 
[15:05:06] Preparing to commence simulation
[15:05:06] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[15:05:23] - Looking at optimizations...
[15:05:23] - Working with standard loops on this execution.
[15:05:23] - Previous termination of core was improper.
[15:05:23] - Going to use standard loops.
[15:05:23] - Files status OK
[15:05:29] - Expanded 2943630 -> 15218030 (decompressed 516.9 percent)
[15:05:30] 3 (Run 37, Clone 151, Gen 25)
[15:05:30] 
[15:05:30] 51, Gen 25)
[15:05:30] 
[15:05:30] Entering M.D.
[15:05:36] nit
[15:05:36] file
[15:05:36] 
[15:05:36] Folding@home Core Shutdown: FILE_IO_ERROR

12/20/2007 11:38:53 PM

My gorilla folding efforts on campus have failed. The machines just won't finish workunits and I have no idea why. This is why I need a folding live cd.

12/20/2007 11:44:50 PM

^^ I'm going to assume you've already uninstalled(and deleted folder)/reinstalled(to a different folder)

Do you overclock? is everything else stable on the system? i would definitely run a memtest first off since memory can cause this issue. secondly a scandisk/chkdsk is always good

are you running it as a service? if not how do you shut it down? and if not, try running it as a service.

in the setup, did you allow "big WUs"? the >5MB setting?

do you run any sort of software firewalls like norton or zone alarm or anything?



^ thats too bad...we could use the boost

12/21/2007 9:14:19 AM

Quote :

"^^ I'm going to assume you've already uninstalled(and deleted folder)/reinstalled(to a different folder)"

yes

Quote :

"Do you overclock? is everything else stable on the system? i would definitely run a memtest first off since memory can cause this issue. secondly a scandisk/chkdsk is always good"

no, i used to overclock with no issues. then reset everything back to default values and continue to get the same errors. even swapped out my motherboad (since it was going bad anyways) and my new motherboard didn't change anything, i still get the same errors. i swapped out my high frequency memory (DDR2-1066) for DDR2-800 and get the same errors. so right now i'm back at all default settings w/ my E6600 @ 2.4Ghz, and my stock memory timings/voltages of my DDR2-1066 memory.

Quote :

"are you running it as a service? if not how do you shut it down? and if not, try running it as a service."

no, i run a batch file that calls "fah.exe -verbosity 9" so i can log it

Quote :

"in the setup, did you allow "big WUs"? the >5MB setting?"

yes

Quote :

"do you run any sort of software firewalls like norton or zone alarm or anything"

no software firewall, only NOD32 for antivirus

the strange part of this all is that it WORKS... just only 1 out of 10 times... and i never change anything, it just either works or doesn't work at random

12/21/2007 2:07:58 PM

Quote :

"no, i run a batch file that calls "fah.exe -verbosity 9" so i can log it"

i would try running it as a service. you can always use FAHMON for logging...i think you maye be able to adjust the verbosity in the setup, and if you you can always add whatever flags you want thru the registry after installing as a service.

12/21/2007 4:07:31 PM

i know all that, but here in lies the problem, when an error occurs it's not as easy to close and restart as a batch file, changing it to a service will not help

i didn't mean i run a batch file so i can log it, i just meant i add the flag so i can log it, i run the batch file for other reasons

[Edited on December 21, 2007 at 4:20 PM. Reason : i HAVE been folding for four years now...]

12/21/2007 4:15:17 PM

I'm going to install this on my parents computers when I get out to CA tonight. My mom has a P4 Dell running XP Home. What version of the client should I get that will be completely invisible to her? I'm guessing:

Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista text-only console (with built-in Windows-service-install option) 6.00 beta1

On my PC running the SMP client, I have the little command window running to show the progress of the work unit. On theirs, I want this to be gone.

12/22/2007 8:48:12 AM

^i'm just saying to TRY running it as a service instead of manually...maybe that will result in less problems. it probably won't help, but then you've tried almost everything else.

Quote :

"it's not as easy to close and restart as a batch file"

actually it is. create two .bat files on your desktop, call them start and stop. and do "net start servicename" and "net stop servicename". you can stop and restart the service easily with those. apologies if you know all that

Quote :

"Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista text-only console (with built-in Windows-service-install option) 6.00 beta1 "

I would use the normal text-only console client. reason being is the beta client might expire and stop working at some point. the normal one should keep working indefinitely

12/22/2007 12:28:04 PM

I installed the SMP client, but I didn't realize that I hadn't set the team ID yet. Is there any way to do thsi without uninstalling then reinstalling?

12/23/2007 9:11:38 PM

^ yes, create a shortcut to fah.exe, right click, go to properties, add -configonly to the target, after the quote.

12/23/2007 11:50:49 PM

just installed vista business...have to freaking install this again...

12/24/2007 12:57:48 AM

^^ I'm sure this is in this thread somewhere, but how are the points calculated?

If I do a 500,000 step WU, how much points does that correspond to?

12/24/2007 1:00:44 AM

ok synapse...trying to figure this out...these are the facts...i had vista basic...downloaded vista business through msdn...it takes away my admin account

first i do this:

Quote :

"Method2: Open the Start Menu, type cmd in the search box, and then press Ctrl+Shift+Enter to open cmd with Administrative rights. Type the following in the command prompt and press Enter: net user administrator /active:yes To assign a password to the Administrator account, type the following in the same command prompt and press Enter (replace "mypassword" with the desired password): net user administrator mypassword Adding a password to the Administrator account is not a requirement when running the SMP client from another user account that has a password. However, adding the password to the Administrator account is a strongly recommended security measure. Do not forget that password. "

ok thats easy...so the next part is logging into the account that will be running the client(i have admin account, and "josh" account, so i go into "josh")...and it says make the directory in your users folder....only thing is, my folder i created when i had vista basic is still there

anyways after that it says to do this:

Quote :

" * Log out, and log in as Administrator. * Open My Computer or Windows Explorer, and browse to your SMP directory. C:\Users\%username%\SMP-FAH * Right click on the SMP console client executable (fah.exe) and select Properties. * Select Compatibility. Check the box that says Run this program as an administrator. Click Apply, click OK. * As instructed in the ReadMe, double click the install.bat file to complete the client installation. The install.bat file installs the SMPD service, and registers MPICH2 with your user name and password, as needed the SMP client. * When prompted, enter the Windows user account name that will be running the SMP client. Hit Return. Enter the password for that account. Hit Return. Enter the password again to confirm. Hit Return. (As you type the user name, the characters will appear on screen, but the characters for your password will not appear on screen.) * You should see two lines of output if all steps were done correctly: If you see this twice, MPI is working If you see this twice, MPI is working "

ok i got all that...i saw the thing twice, so i assumed it was working

i then do this:

Quote :

" * Log off, and log in using the Windows user account entered while answering the install.bat questions. * Browse to your folding directory. Double click fah.exe to start the client. * Answer the client setup questions as usual. Be sure to answer No to the Use IE Settings question and to the Install as a Service question. Be sure to answer Yes to the Accept WUs > 5MB question. "

this is where something goes wrong...i click fah.exe, and the client window opens and gives me this:


i'd appreciate it if you could help me with this...instead of asking me if i want to use IE settings, and if i want to accept wu's > 5mb, it just gives me this and does nothing else

-----------------------------------------------------

ok i put that line of dashes for this reason...i spent about 20 minutes typing this post, and just checked it again...this is what the thing looks like now:


am i good to go or what...this is so confusing but i might just be making it more confusing than needs be

thanks,

Josh

ps- i dont think its running as a service...i closed the thing i posted the 2 pictures of, and the fah went away in task manager, and its not under the service tab of task manager...gonna try a few things but just wanted to get that out there...

------------------------------------------

final edit: i did the -configonly thing, and i believe i got it to work...answered the <5mb question etc

[Edited on December 24, 2007 at 3:34 AM. Reason : this post...]

12/24/2007 3:10:25 AM

Quote :

"am i good to go or what...this is so confusing but i might just be making it more confusing than needs be"

looks good, as long its consuming 100% cpu power then its running fine.

Quote :

"i dont think its running as a service...i closed the thing i posted the 2 pictures of, and the fah went away in task manager, and its not under the service tab of task manager."

after installing, you have to restart to get it to run as a service.

Quote :

"^^ I'm sure this is in this thread somewhere, but how are the points calculated? If I do a 500,000 step WU, how much points does that correspond to? "

There is no correlation between # of steps and # of points, each project varies. i would install FAHMon to check the point value and your progress and estimated time of completion.
http://fahmon.net/

If that looks like too much trouble, you can see what project you're working on and go here
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/fahproject

12/24/2007 10:46:10 AM

i dont think it goes at 100 but it goes between around 50-80 i think...i think the other 20 percent is me using firefox etc

12/26/2007 5:04:33 PM

damn, we've lost a number of people out of the top 20 producers...

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=59<1--

[Edited on December 27, 2007 at 1:23 PM. Reason : -->

12/27/2007 1:22:43 PM

yeah, I was giving almost 2000 PPD, but I had to yank it from all of my work computers I had it running on. Sorry guys!

12/28/2007 11:39:19 AM

here is to a prosperous 2008



[Edited on December 31, 2007 at 8:27 PM. Reason : what i want]

12/31/2007 8:04:55 PM

all you gotta do is install more clients and you can blow that "what i want" line away

ps you can't change the past

12/31/2007 8:31:13 PM

aight, got my best PC back up and running finally, so that'll add some shit back to my productivity

12/31/2007 11:39:23 PM

first TT post of 2k8. Last TT post of 2k7

1/1/2008 12:05:03 AM