^ Wow that is awesome.

I didn't realize how widespread so many of these laws are in the nation and it seems like the pro-life crowd is gaining ground. As 19% of the population how the fuck is this possible. At a time when the country as a whole seems to at least be getting slightly more progressive on the average, somehow the red states are becoming more backwards and regressing (ie NC's ag-gag law). There has to be some poli-sci explaination.

2/22/2016 3:52:41 PM

(for page 51)

required viewing from John Oliver:

http://youtu.be/DRauXXz6t0Y

[Edited on February 22, 2016 at 3:55 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2016 3:54:49 PM

^ le sigh

john oliver really is the best though.

2/23/2016 9:47:06 AM

john oliver says "if you do not agree with me, stop watching" or in other words, I do not want to be challenged by people who do not think the same as me. great way to change minds

2/23/2016 12:29:12 PM

that's a bit of a stretch

2/23/2016 12:30:01 PM

I wish we could take the whole Pro-Life crowd (specifically the ones that oppose abortion in ALL cases even rape, incest, and those done for the safety of the mother) and throw them over a boat 2000 miles out in the atlantic.

2/23/2016 12:43:32 PM

Conservatives in Brazil are responding to Zika by making abortions even more illegal

2/23/2016 1:40:51 PM

Hey man, every deformed baby with a miniature head is really a BLESSING from Jesus! Obviously it is part of Gods plan for you to have babies with birth defects created by viruses spread by mosquitos!

2/23/2016 3:31:59 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/health/utah-abortion-law-fetal-pain/index.html

Quote :

"Utah passes 'fetal pain' abortion law requiring anesthesia"

40 years since Roe v Wade why does it feel like the anti-choice crowd keeps gaining more and more traction???

Are those against abortion simply outbreeding those who aren't?

Is American more Christian than 40 years ago (have trouble believing)?

or

Is this really more of a migration issue where educated progressive leaning people choose to leave backwards fly-over states because of policies like these. Thus the crazies are simply making up a majority of the demographics in these places when before they wouldn't have had the power.

3/29/2016 6:39:55 PM

Quote :

"Are those against abortion simply outbreeding those who aren't?"

Maybe it's genetic

3/29/2016 8:37:24 PM

^^

Last point. I think more and more people are heading to the coasts and the middle of the country is turning into an insane asylum. Also a good chunk of new immigrants are very anti-abortion.

3/30/2016 3:36:04 AM

And because science is now showing us more and more just how far developed a young fetus is, even within the first trimester. It's hard to look at a developing human as just a clump of meaningless cells when so much of who they will become as a person is already set in motion early in the womb.

Just one example of countless findings on this topic: https://www.ted.com/talks/annie_murphy_paul_what_we_learn_before_we_re_born?language=en

3/31/2016 11:45:11 AM

But the woman is still the host, so if you agree that certain exceptions should be made for abortion (rape, risk to mother, etc...) then you agree that the hosts's rights can superseded any rights of the fetus regardless of this claimed development

and you're going to need to link to something more than a TED talk to demonstrate that a fetus is a person in the first trimester

3/31/2016 11:58:01 AM

Quote :

"and you're going to need to link to something more than a TED talk to demonstrate that a fetus is a person in the first trimester"

Huh? Fetus is a person /= so much of who they will become as a person is already set in motion early in the womb.

And lol at pretending you're too good for plebeian TED talks, as if you know more about the topic than a lifelong researcher on the issue.

4/5/2016 5:44:38 PM

is ohmy the one that went to Columbia? I forget.

4/5/2016 8:08:47 PM

well, to start, the author of that TED talk is a journalist and speaker who was there to promote a book, not a lifelong researcher. this is the problem with ted talks, anyone can say anything and since its in a ted talk format instead of something written it is much more difficult to check the sources they cite (and some ted talks don't even cite any sources)

but secondly, nothing in that ted talk demonstrates or claims that a fetus is a person. that was either the point you were implying, or you were not implying that point in which case your post was a total non-sequitur and has nothing to do with the topic of abortion.

[Edited on April 5, 2016 at 9:37 PM. Reason : christ i hope you didn't pay much to go to a fancy school]

4/5/2016 9:17:20 PM

I know a guy who did a TED talk on polyamory

4/5/2016 10:44:22 PM

^^ reading comprehension is key.

The discussion was around the question "40 years since Roe v Wade why does it feel like the anti-choice crowd keeps gaining more and more traction???"

Craaaaazy kind of demonizing, discussion-stunting logic on your part that conflates an explanation of one possible answer to this into "claims that a fetus is a person".

GG, though. Wouldn't expect any less.

4/6/2016 9:14:13 AM

if you aren't trying to relate her ted talk to personhood of a fetus, how is it relevant to that post?

also, i checked the ted talk, it only cites "studies" without saying which ones or really giving any detail. so, not only is your post not relevant, the ted talk isn't credible for the unrelated points that it does make without some more information.

[Edited on April 6, 2016 at 9:38 AM. Reason : .]

4/6/2016 9:37:44 AM

^not even going to respond again to your first point. you can go back and re-read on your own.

and if you need cited studies to convince you what is pretty much common knowledge these days (and in any number of studies easily findable)- that advanced technology and (advanced ultrasound imaging, language formation, etc) is showing us more and more how much important formation happens EARLY in the development of the fetus- than I feel for you. But that doesn't suit your narrative.

So keep blazin, bro!

4/6/2016 10:03:01 AM

you need to establish some kind of connection with what any of that has to do with abortion

4/6/2016 10:08:30 AM

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/19/478743035/oklahoma-lawmakers-pass-bill-that-makes-performing-an-abortion-a-felony

[Edited on May 19, 2016 at 7:50 PM. Reason : .]

5/19/2016 7:48:52 PM

Clearly unconstitutional. Lawmakers just trying to get re-elected right?

5/19/2016 8:00:15 PM

Yeah, as I understand it the state is a mess and this issue is their go-to distraction. They've passed a lot of ridiculous abortion bills that have been quickly overturned in recent years.

5/20/2016 10:25:31 AM

Vetoed.

5/20/2016 7:36:32 PM

lol, a felony? every now and then, NC doesn't seem as backwoods

5/21/2016 1:09:10 AM

Few and far between my man. Our legislature is pretty fucked, and despite being a relative moderate in the past, our governer is towing the far right party line hard as fuck, no doubt with the goal of not getting primaried.

5/21/2016 2:03:01 AM

I like how a female republican governor that hates abortion has more balls than Pat McRory. Pat McRory thinks he is our legislatures bitch....not the governor. He might need to check between his legs.

5/21/2016 3:00:32 PM

texas

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36501892

6/13/2016 5:44:22 AM

activist court enables baby murder
-fox news

6/27/2016 10:49:50 AM

This is exactly why Obama had Scalia killed sheeple.

6/27/2016 10:51:32 AM

I keep waiting for this headline to appear "Scalia Destroys Court Majority With Scathing Dissent From Grave"

6/27/2016 2:31:31 PM

Savages.

Quote :

"Parents Win £70 Million in Wrongful Birth Lawsuits"

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nhs-70m-bill-for-disabled-babies-fpmbrdtkr

2/8/2017 1:45:30 PM

the NHS failed to interpret ultrasound scans correctly, failed to interpret x-rays correctly, failed or delayed diagnosis for wrong diagnosis, failed to recognize microcephaly with 10 ultrasound scans, found that the counsultant who carried out the scan at 31 weeks should have realized the risk for microcephaly, the foetal medicine specialist who did the scan at 36 weeks was negligent, etc...

2/8/2017 1:58:10 PM

^^ I'm sure you know the intimate details of every family involved

2/8/2017 2:27:14 PM

Seems like not cutting up a fetus would be a good way to outbreed someone that does

2/8/2017 3:49:36 PM

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/29/521919322/2-activists-who-secretly-recorded-planned-parenthood-face-new-felony-charges

whoops

3/29/2017 3:45:37 PM

Kill the messenger, not the message.

3/29/2017 4:18:33 PM

the message being?

3/29/2017 4:21:36 PM

how about the dr is allowed to pull the baby out but he has to try to save it?

3/29/2017 6:47:30 PM

wat

3/29/2017 7:37:09 PM

a compromise solution

3/29/2017 8:24:42 PM

huh

3/29/2017 9:35:39 PM

Quote :

"the message being?"

Have you not been following this? PP admitted to selling organs of aborted babies. Instead of investigating PP, this AG decided to go after the journalists who uncovered the illegal activity.

[Edited on March 30, 2017 at 10:52 AM. Reason : It's doubtful that these charges will stick.]

3/30/2017 10:49:39 AM

TWELVE states have already investigated this nonsense.

3/30/2017 10:54:14 AM

Quote :

"PP admitted to selling organs of aborted babies."

http://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/464594826/in-wake-of-videos-planned-parenthood-investigations-find-no-fetal-tissue-sales

3/30/2017 10:58:23 AM

Quote :

"Have you not been following this?"

3/30/2017 11:00:33 AM

^^ The same Texas Grand Jury that indicted these journalists, which was subsequently dropped, like this case in California will be.

Listen, the fact is, the PP representative ADMITS to selling the fetal tissue. This undercover journalism led PP to stop taking money for aborted baby parts, and launched a congressional investigation into the general practice of selling aborted baby parts. That committee’s hearings showed the market for aborted baby parts is significant, growing, and operating in violation of federal law. In fact, a few months ago, two California medical companies that obtained fetal parts from Planned Parenthood were charged with illegally profiting off the sale of fetal tissue donated by abortion providers.

3/30/2017 11:54:14 AM

Sources.

3/30/2017 12:16:04 PM

Quote :

" PP admitted to selling organs of aborted babies"

dude, step away from fox news, this isn't true

3/30/2017 12:19:39 PM