HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Let's go to the Big East and be ECUs rival 1/14/2013 9:54:06 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Re:UConn: MWC in football and Catholic 7+Butler for bball is what I've heard. 1/14/2013 10:05:18 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Ahaha, the Big East will break up now that ECU has billboards up around Raleigh advertising "BIG EAST FOOTBALL" as if that's an accomplishment. 1/14/2013 10:53:11 AM |
JP All American 16807 Posts user info edit post |
Maryland fights ACC exit fee by filing countersuit against conference
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2013/01/maryland_fights_acc_exit_fee_b.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
[Edited on January 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM. Reason : ] 1/18/2013 2:02:46 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
I love when acc fans talk junk about other football conferences. lol
WHAT
A
JOKE!!!!!!!! 1/18/2013 2:17:34 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
ACC talking shit about SEC? Not smart.
ACC talking shit about a conference that's so desperate that they want San Diego State and just got played by Boise State, all while losing every single modestly good team it ever had in any sport in a decade? Justified. 1/18/2013 2:22:46 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
The ACC is in a bad position post Big East demise. I wouldn't be talking crap right now because if more teams get poached, we're the primary target of the big conferences. Maryland was a gateway poach and the results of the ACC and their lawsuits is likely to determine whether we're the next Big East, getting poached year after year or not. 1/19/2013 8:40:53 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
these expansions will start to reverse once it gets too expensive to jetset a volleyball team to new england. watch. 1/19/2013 11:51:21 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
killpups is an ECU fan
ACC fans can talk as much conference shit as they want to him 1/19/2013 11:53:06 AM |
Big4Country All American 11914 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "these expansions will start to reverse once it gets too expensive to jetset a volleyball team to new england. watch." |
I don't know about that. Taking a few plane trips a year doesn't cost too much when you're making 30,000,000+ a year.1/19/2013 12:50:19 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Greg Swaim via Twitter is reporting 4 ACC Teams (FSU, Miami, GT & Clemson) all moving to B12. Announcements to be made by B12 commish shortly.
Big grain of salt time......Posted for what's it's worth" |
1/19/2013 1:27:08 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
lol greg swaim 1/19/2013 1:31:50 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Swaim'd 1/19/2013 1:51:33 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
ECU and NC State College of Mines to the SEC 1/19/2013 1:53:30 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
he's serious this time 1/19/2013 2:30:30 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't Virginia offered but they declined? Or were they offered by the B1G or w/e 1/19/2013 2:35:47 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
rumors of Cincinnati and BYU to the Big 12
lol poor Uconn 1/28/2013 12:27:43 PM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
More like, lol big 12. 1/28/2013 12:34:46 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
idk about that. Cincinnati gets them into Ohio, which is great for recruiting and marketing their product. BYU on the other hand is a LOL 1/28/2013 12:39:02 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Per espn rumor going around that UVA and GT will be offered spot in Big 10
They speculate that UNC has been offered as well and that if UNC were to leave, that Duke could join the newly formed private school league that has marquette, seton hall, villanova, etc and then worry about findin a home for football.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 8:32 AM. Reason : N]
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM. Reason : B] 2/20/2013 8:31:02 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Can we just go back to 2000 and nix this whole realignment thing.
A world with UNC, Duke and State all in different basketball conferences is retarded.
I love football but fuck football. 2/20/2013 9:11:43 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That would suck ass. NC State would be royally fucked. The Big Ten can suck a dick. Go raid the Big 12, stay the hell away from the ACC. Fuck Maryland while we are at it too and their lack of ability to run an athletic budget (even though Yow has a lot to do with their issues).
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM. Reason : gh] 2/20/2013 9:11:47 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
NC STATE UCONN ECU BOSTON COLLEGE SOUTH FLORIDA BYU
Maybe we can convince Troy or San Jose State to join 2/20/2013 9:15:18 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
It just doesnt make sense to me that schools are willing to throw away decades of history and tradition for a boost in money. Who the fuck is gonna show up to a Maryland Indiana football game? A Maryland Minnesota basketball game? NO ONE thats who. 2/20/2013 9:24:38 AM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
A few things I think about this process:
1) If the Big10 comes and poaches UNC from the ACC, then its obviously very likely the league falls apart because everyone is going to poach from us at that point. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because if the SEC wants the NC TV markets, we'd be the next logical choice.
2) However, if for some reason the SEC poaches UNC from the ACC instead of us, then we'd be largely screwed because I don't see Big10 wanting NC State, and our best hope would be that the Big12 decides they want a bunch of each coast teams so WVU isn't all alone on the east coast. Worst case scenario there, we end up still in the ACC with a bunch of mediocre teams, basically the Big East 3.0.
3) None of this is happening before the Maryland lawsuit is settled. The ACC is supposedly holding on to Maryland's payouts right now until the legal matter is finalized. GT or UVA isn't going to risk having to pay $52M to get out of the league and have their funds on hold essentially by the league. The lower the exit fee gets negotiated down to, the more likely we are to see teams jump ship. So for those of us that want the ACC to stay together, we have to hope that exit fee remains super high.
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All of that aside I seriously hope that none of that happens and the ACC remains as it is. No matter how "cool" it would be to be in the SEC (in the "best" case scenario of the league falling apart), losing the tradition and rivalries the ACC has built over the years would be tremendously sad.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 9:36 AM. Reason : bad things] 2/20/2013 9:30:23 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Alabama and Ole Miss to Catholic 7, NC State and EZU to SEC, unc to Sun Belt 2/20/2013 9:31:46 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
well i hope you still care when it's nc state vs. central florida in a weeknight ACC matchup.
how long until we have to play football games on tuesday to get on ESPN?
Athletic budgets are going to SUCK once all these Nebraska-UVA volleyball games on Wednesday start happening and fuel prices go up more.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM. Reason : x] 2/20/2013 9:32:37 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It just doesnt make sense to me that schools are willing to throw away decades of history and tradition for a boost in money" |
therein lies the difference between fans and rich people.2/20/2013 9:40:01 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Even factoring in money, I'll never understand who would ever calculate that "yeah, I bet we could make a ton more off of UNC-Nebraska games than UNC-anyone from NC." 2/20/2013 9:59:07 AM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, I'm with you Hoops. It doesn't make a ton of sense. I know all the money is coming from TV deals, but is there really a big TV demand for UVA vs. Minnesota in football? 2/20/2013 10:47:36 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
They make the money off of charging everyone in NC and MN $1/monthly to have access to the B1G Network that will carry the game. Even if it isnt a "big game" you're still going to subscribe so you have access to your team's games in both football and basketball.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 12:42 PM. Reason : $] 2/20/2013 12:40:54 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
NC State can't leave the conference without taking Wake Forest.
Conference realignment rumors said by no one. 2/20/2013 12:52:39 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It just doesnt make sense to me that schools are willing to throw away decades of history and tradition for a boost in money. Who the fuck is gonna show up to a Maryland Indiana football game? A Maryland Minnesota basketball game? NO ONE thats who." |
absolutely none of this has ANYTHING to do with money at the gate. none of it.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM. Reason : how are people still not getting this in 2013???]2/20/2013 12:56:58 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
^ You're right, it's all Tier 3 rights and collecting as many households as they can for their conference networks. But the destruction of conferences, rivalries, and tradition in the effort to get those households sucks for it to be just about that. It's all a money grab... for the conferences, for the schools, for everyone. The people that get punished as the fans because we lose tradition and we pay money each month for these conference networks. 2/20/2013 1:04:15 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "absolutely none of this has ANYTHING to do with money at the gate. none of it.
[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM. Reason : how are people still not getting this in 2013???]" |
2/20/2013 1:16:13 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I think most of us do in fact realize the money side is about TV.
Quote : | "Who the fuck is gonna show up to a Maryland Indiana football game? A Maryland Minnesota basketball game? NO ONE thats who." |
What part of that statement is still not true? I said nothing about it bringing in money. Its more about the fact that everyone sold out for TV contracts and in the end there will be no fans at half the games.2/20/2013 3:12:36 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
Not super big news, but Notre Dame would consider joining the "new" Catholic 7/Big East conference, even if it was just for 1 year.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/notre-dame-wants-talk-catholic-031120555--ncaab.html 3/4/2013 4:04:50 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
honestly, it makes more sense for them to have rivalries with Georgetown and Villanova in basketball than to play UNC and Duke.
They're staying essentially independent for bowl bids in fb anyway. 3/4/2013 7:32:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i'd be shocked if at the end of the day notre dame isn't independent in football and in the catholic league for everything else.
it makes sense in every single way. 3/4/2013 9:55:22 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup 3/4/2013 10:13:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
what about when their football tv contract runs out in a couple years 3/4/2013 10:16:09 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
considering NBC recently finished 5th in the ratings including behind Univision once football ended, I imagine they'll overpay out the wazoo for sports properties 3/4/2013 11:24:50 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
Notre Dame will stick with the ACC tie in unless there's another big shakeup. With the expanding conferences, it's been harder for ND to fill its football schedule come Oct/Nov. The ACC deal makes that easier. Joining the Catholic 7 would leave them with no FBS tie in. It's just not going to happen permanently. And if you bring Olympic sports into the mix, which ND does care about, the ACC is an even better fit. 3/4/2013 11:33:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
^^but what was great about their TV deal that last 20 years was that it guaranteed all their games were televised, and they were a marketable football team that millions of people wanted to watch...but while they were a good team this past year, they've been fairly shitty the previous 10 years or so, but more importantly, every team's games are on TV now...i think NBC lowballs them in 2015 when the contract is up and if ND doesn't accept, NBC goes after something more profitable, like some other conferences games...and that will highly influence ND's conference decisions 3/4/2013 11:40:45 PM |
KillaB All American 1652 Posts user info edit post |
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/07/report-catholic-7-to-announce-departure-from-big-east-thursday/
Basically Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, St. John’s, Providence, DePaul and Seton Hall are "leaving" the Big East, but they are keeping the "Big East" name and keeping the basketball tournament location of the Madison Square Garden.
Will add Xavier, Butler, and Creighton to their new league and then add St. Louis and Dayton the next season.
Now I post this here just make a comment about how it must feel to be someone like UConn, Cincinnati, or USF in this situation. Those 7 schools just basically voted to kick them out by "leaving" the conference, but forming a new conference with the exact same name.
Who is going to pick those schools up? ACC? Big 12? <Insert non BCS conference here>? 3/7/2013 10:35:35 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
So, will the leftover schools try to move forward an settle into a low-major status? Do they just take their money and dissolve the league?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference
I like how the disambiguation page refers to the current Big East conference as the former Big East conference. 3/7/2013 11:46:29 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renamed_Big_East_Conference_(2013)
haha I love how there are people out there so dedicated to trolling the big least, carry on my brothers 3/7/2013 12:29:56 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
ECU leaves Conference USA to join the America 12 Conference. Sounds about right. 3/7/2013 3:03:09 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
More like ECU leaves Conference USA to join Conference USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renamed_Big_East_Conference_(2013)#Member_universities
With the exception of Temple and UConn, all of these schools were Conference USA before realignment.
[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM. Reason : x] 3/8/2013 12:28:20 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/9042949/notre-dame-big-east-agree-irish-exit-2-years-early-join-acc-source-says
Please let this be the end of realignment
15 Team ACC (14 football, 14 baseball, 15 else) 14 Team SEC 14 Team B1G 12 Team Pac-12 10 Team Big XII who the f cares Team America 12/Metro Conference/Who the F Cares Conference 10 Team Big East (no 1A football)
if UCONN or Cincinatti move on to greener pastures, so be it. Just no more poaching and idiotic expansion plz 3/12/2013 9:28:38 AM |